Re: KDE322: libqt-mt => libqt3c102-mt
On Saturday 24 Apr 2004 3:02 pm, Henning Moll wrote: > Will this package be also renamed in the 'final release' of KDE322 > for Woody? > > This would break compatibility with many (all?) existing KDE > applications packaged for KDE < 322. Reading "between the lines" of both the reports here from people who've tried the KDE 3.2.2 debs, *and* the changing README file from the packager at http://download.kde.org/stable/3.2.2/Debian/README, where you can find : "The current schedule is that the Debian backports will be fully public and operational by June 27th, 2004. Thank you for your understanding." I'd guess that the currently available debs are for the benefit of early adopters who are prepared to put up with the scaryness, and the "final" KDE 3.2.2 for Woody debs (on 27th.June) will be rebuilt to be more Woody-friendly. But that's a wishfull guess ... like you, I'd sure like to know the real answer. Recent debian-kde traffic gives the impression that debian users are only interested in bleeding edge testing & unstable setups, so I'd just like to take the opportunity to raise the flag for the Woody camp. I'm always grateful that anyone takes the time to build Woody debs (tip o the hat to Ralf et al), and really don't want to change my system into some kind of hybrid. Cheers, Nick Boyce Bristol, UK
Re: KDE322: libqt-mt => libqt3c102-mt
Henning Moll writes: > Hi! Will this package be also renamed in the 'final release' of > KDE322 for Woody? Yes. > This would break compatibility with many (all?) existing KDE > applications packaged for KDE < 322. Indeed, along with the numerous other backward incompatible changes. > I am providing a package of k3b for woody. This package won't > install with the current debs of KDE322. Sure, it's easy to correct > this, but then, the package will fail on systems with older versions > of KDE3. That's why you're supposed to provide two packages if you want them to work on two different Debian distributions. cheers domi
Re: icons license
> Ultimately, my question will be: Can I use these icons (both as-is and > modified versions) as elements of a site I am building? If it's the SVG Crystal icon set, yes you can. It's released under the LGPL which in this case is interpreted so that if you change the icons, you must release the changed icons under the LGPL but otherwise there aren't much restrictions. I think this was covered in some SVG Crystal FAQ file in the net. - Jarno
name sessions in konsole
Hello, If you open a new tab for a new session in konsole normaly there appears something like "shel"l (or whatever type of session you have chosen) on the tab. I am working on different machines and it would be nice to have the name of the machine where the shell was opened (or much better - where the shell ends actually). Is this possible with konsole? Perhaps with output from uname -n? Thank you Wolfgang
Re: name sessions in konsole
sure is possible:
add something like:
PS1="\[\033]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: \w\007\]\[\033]30;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL
PROTECTED]:\w] "
to your .bashrc
or .tcshrc:
alias precmd 'echo -n "\033]0;${HOST}:$cwd\007\033]30;${HOST}:$cwd\007"'
Note that this should be added on the remote end, and local if you want it
there too :)
Regards
Robert
On Sunday 25 April 2004 11:58, Wolfgang Mader wrote:
> Hello,
>
> If you open a new tab for a new session in konsole normaly there appears
> something like "shel"l (or whatever type of session you have chosen) on the
> tab. I am working on different machines and it would be nice to have the
> name of the machine where the shell was opened (or much better - where the
> shell ends actually). Is this possible with konsole? Perhaps with output
> from uname -n?
> Thank you
> Wolfgang
Re: name sessions in konsole
On Sunday 25 April 2004 04:58, Wolfgang Mader wrote: > Hello, > > If you open a new tab for a new session in konsole normaly there > appears something like "shel"l (or whatever type of session you have > chosen) on the tab. I am working on different machines and it would > be nice to have the name of the machine where the shell was opened > (or much better - where the shell ends actually). Is this possible > with konsole? Perhaps with output from uname -n? Right click over the tab, select Rename session, or double click the tab. For the longest time I treated konsole as just another xterm clone. I turned off all the toolbars and tabs to minimize desktop real estate. I routinely had a number of separate, overlapping konsoles cluttering up my desktop. Then I "discovered" what the extra features like tabs and bookmarks were good for. If you use bookmarks in konsole you can set the name that is displayed. At work I have bookmarks for most of my servers as well as a number of other boxen I deal with regularly. I typically have one konsole running with several sessions open in different tabs. Shift-arrow toggles between them without leaving the keyboard. Holding down shift and toggling left and right arrows is a quick way to visually see diffs between two similar files. -- Bud Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> KD5SZ
Re: name sessions in konsole
* Robert Lindgren [Sun, 25 Apr 2004 19:03:10 +0200]: > sure is possible: > add something like: > PS1="\[\033]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: \w\007\]\[\033]30;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL > PROTECTED]:\w] " > to your .bashrc Thanks, that's something I've always wanted to know. I'll just make clearer the relevant part: - change shell's name escape sequence: \033]30;NAME\007 Thanks again. -- Adeodato Simó (a.k.a. thibaut) EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | IM: my_dato [jabber.org] | PK: DA6AE621 Listening to: Four Tet - Spirit fingers A dream is an answer to a question that we don't know how to ask. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: name sessions in konsole
On Sun, Apr 25, 2004 at 07:03:10PM +0200, Robert Lindgren wrote: > sure is possible: > > add something like: > PS1="\[\033]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: \w\007\]\[\033]30;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL > PROTECTED]:\w] " > to your .bashrc This only changes it in the session title though, which AFAIK only shows up for the current tab. It's not even shown for the "switch to tab" tab context menu in 3.2. The only way I know of to get it into the tab, but statically even so, is to open that tab from your konsole bookmarks. You can put "ssh://[EMAIL PROTECTED]" as the URL, and the title comes from the bookmark. I keep track daily of about a dozen tabs on several konsoles, that way. Possibly it could be done via DCOP, if you wrapped your local /usr/bin/ssh in a script to do that, but I don't know sufficient about DCOP to say if it's so. Nick
Re: name sessions in konsole
On Sunday 25 April 2004 19:29, Nick Leverton wrote: > On Sun, Apr 25, 2004 at 07:03:10PM +0200, Robert Lindgren wrote: > > sure is possible: > > > > add something like: > > PS1="\[\033]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: \w\007\]\[\033]30;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w] " > > to your .bashrc > > This only changes it in the session title though, which AFAIK only shows > up for the current tab. It's not even shown for the "switch to tab" > tab context menu in 3.2. > No it doesn't, it changes both the tabname and the session name. the first escape sequence changes the session name, the second the konsole tab. Cheers Robert
Re: name sessions in konsole
> Possibly it could be done via DCOP, if you wrapped your local /usr/bin/ssh
> in a script to do that, but I don't know sufficient about DCOP to say
> if it's so.
I'm not sure if this is what you are after here, but (~/bin/ssh):
#!/bin/bash
REAL_SSH=/usr/bin/ssh
if [ ! -z "$KONSOLE_DCOP_SESSION" ]
then
# Use the last argument as the title
for arg in $@; do
NEW_TITLE="$arg"
done
OLD_TITLE=`dcop "$KONSOLE_DCOP_SESSION" sessionName`
dcop "$KONSOLE_DCOP_SESSION" renameSession "$NEW_TITLE"
function restore_title() {
dcop "$KONSOLE_DCOP_SESSION" renameSession "$OLD_TITLE"
}
# If SSH is interrupted (CTRL-C), restore the old title
trap "restore_title" SIGINT
$REAL_SSH $*
restore_title
else
$REAL_SSH $*
fi
- Jarno
Re: name sessions in konsole
On Sun, Apr 25, 2004 at 07:34:58PM +0200, Robert Lindgren wrote: > > This only changes it in the session title though, > > No it doesn't, it changes both the tabname and the session name. the first > escape sequence changes the session name, the second the konsole tab. It doesn't here, but it's clearly doing something to the tab (blanking it mostly), so it's probably my setup. I'm sorry, and I'm grateful to you for the information - something else to fix ! Nick
Re: name sessions in konsole
* Nick Leverton [Sun, 25 Apr 2004 20:28:31 +0100]: > On Sun, Apr 25, 2004 at 07:34:58PM +0200, Robert Lindgren wrote: > > > This only changes it in the session title though, > > No it doesn't, it changes both the tabname and the session name. the first > > escape sequence changes the session name, the second the konsole tab. > It doesn't here, but it's clearly doing something to the tab (blanking > it mostly), so it's probably my setup. I'm sorry, and I'm grateful to > you for the information - something else to fix ! What happens if you do: $ echo -e '\033]30;NAME\007' -- Adeodato Simó (a.k.a. thibaut) EM: asp16 [ykwim] alu.ua.es | IM: my_dato [jabber.org] | PK: DA6AE621 A. Because it breaks the logical sequence of discussion Q. Why is top posting bad? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: KDE322: libqt-mt => libqt3c102-mt
On Sunday 25 April 2004 17:35, Dominique Devriese wrote: > Henning Moll writes: > > Hi! Will this package be also renamed in the 'final release' of > > KDE322 for Woody? > > Yes. AFAIK, 'c102' stands for the transition from one gcc-version to another incompatible gcc-version, which is done in sid. Why should this affect woody? > > I am providing a package of k3b for woody. This package won't > > install with the current debs of KDE322. Sure, it's easy to correct > > this, but then, the package will fail on systems with older > > versions of KDE3. > > That's why you're supposed to provide two packages if you want them > to work on two different Debian distributions. This is not about different Debian distributions. It's just about woody (and nothing else) together with different versions of KDE... Anyway: I don't have any clue how to provide two different version of the same package (for the different KDE-Versions) via the same deb-repository. Is this possible? Henning
Re: name sessions in konsole
Wow - that is just more as I have asked for.
Thank you very much.
Cheers Wolfgang
On Sunday 25 April 2004 19:03, Robert Lindgren wrote:
> sure is possible:
>
> add something like:
> PS1="\[\033]0;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: \w\007\]\[\033]30;[EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL
> PROTECTED]:\w] "
> to your .bashrc
>
> or .tcshrc:
> alias precmd 'echo -n "\033]0;${HOST}:$cwd\007\033]30;${HOST}:$cwd\007"'
>
> Note that this should be added on the remote end, and local if you want it
> there too :)
>
> Regards
> Robert
>
> On Sunday 25 April 2004 11:58, Wolfgang Mader wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > If you open a new tab for a new session in konsole normaly there appears
> > something like "shel"l (or whatever type of session you have chosen) on
> > the tab. I am working on different machines and it would be nice to have
> > the name of the machine where the shell was opened (or much better -
> > where the shell ends actually). Is this possible with konsole? Perhaps
> > with output from uname -n?
> > Thank you
> > Wolfgang
Re: KDE322: libqt-mt => libqt3c102-mt
Henning Moll writes: > On Sunday 25 April 2004 17:35, Dominique Devriese wrote: >> Henning Moll writes: >> > Hi! Will this package be also renamed in the 'final release' of >> > KDE322 for Woody? >> >> Yes. > AFAIK, 'c102' stands for the transition from one gcc-version to > another incompatible gcc-version, which is done in sid. Why should > this affect woody? Oh, I see, I thought you were talking about unstable. /me should learn to read posts better... About the c102 thing: KDE 3.2 depends on Qt >= 3.2.3, and I assume that the KDE packagers for woody have just ported the qt-x11-free packages from unstable to woody, instead of trying to adapt the woody packages to a newer Qt. I personally would probably have done the same. >> > I am providing a package of k3b for woody. This package won't >> > install with the current debs of KDE322. Sure, it's easy to >> > correct this, but then, the package will fail on systems with >> > older versions of KDE3. Can't you make your package depend on kdelibs4, and use the implicit kdelibs4->libqt3* dependency ? cheers domi
Re: KDE322: libqt-mt => libqt3c102-mt
On Mon, Apr 26, 2004 at 03:39:09AM +0200, Dominique Devriese wrote: > Henning Moll writes: > > > On Sunday 25 April 2004 17:35, Dominique Devriese wrote: > >> Henning Moll writes: > >> > Hi! Will this package be also renamed in the 'final release' of > >> > KDE322 for Woody? > >> > >> Yes. > > > AFAIK, 'c102' stands for the transition from one gcc-version to > > another incompatible gcc-version, which is done in sid. Why should > > this affect woody? > > Oh, I see, I thought you were talking about unstable. /me should > learn to read posts better... > > About the c102 thing: KDE 3.2 depends on Qt >= 3.2.3, and I assume > that the KDE packagers for woody have just ported the qt-x11-free > packages from unstable to woody, instead of trying to adapt the woody > packages to a newer Qt. I personally would probably have done the > same. They should only have the c102 name if the packages are compiled with gcc 3.2 or newer. > >> > I am providing a package of k3b for woody. This package won't > >> > install with the current debs of KDE322. Sure, it's easy to > >> > correct this, but then, the package will fail on systems with > >> > older versions of KDE3. > > Can't you make your package depend on kdelibs4, and use the implicit > kdelibs4->libqt3* dependency ? No. The package dependencies are generated at build time against whatever the package links to, plus manually set dependencies. So for kdelibs4 and libqt3c102-mt they are automatically set up. Chris signature.asc Description: Digital signature
