kdm doesn't work (Re: kdelibs 3.1.4 debian woody packages problem fixed)

2003-09-18 Thread Francis Verscheure
Andreas Pakulat wrote:

> 
> Why that? I don't see why kdelibs4-dev should not depend on X11
> package?
> 
> Andreas
> 

Hello,

Dependency on xlibs-pic is new for kdelibs4-dev, so is it really needed
? 
And the real problem is that a lot of people using Woody use unofficial
XFree ports with newer version than 4.1.0.

Francis




Re: kdm doesn't work (Re: kdelibs 3.1.4 debian woody packages problem fixed)

2003-09-18 Thread Chris Cheney
On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 08:47:12AM +0200, Francis Verscheure wrote:
> Andreas Pakulat wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Why that? I don't see why kdelibs4-dev should not depend on X11
> > package?
> > 
> > Andreas
> > 
> 
> Hello,
> 
> Dependency on xlibs-pic is new for kdelibs4-dev, so is it really needed
> ? 
> And the real problem is that a lot of people using Woody use unofficial
> XFree ports with newer version than 4.1.0.
> 
> Francis

Does anyone know why this actually doesn't just work? XFree86 4.2 btw
includes xlibs-pic as well, 4.3 includes xlibs-static-pic however it
provides xlibs-pic so this should still work, right? Maybe the issue
is the people using the 4.3 backport have to manually install
xlibs-static-pic for it to satisfy the dependency (iow apt-get won't
automatically resolve the issue).

Chris

Package: xlibs-static-pic
Priority: extra
Section: libdevel
Installed-Size: 760
Maintainer: Debian X Strike Force 
Architecture: i386
Source: xfree86
Version: 4.3.0-0pre1v1
Replaces: xlibs-pic
Provides: xlibs-pic
Depends: xlibs-dev (= 4.3.0-0pre1v1), libc6-dev
Conflicts: xlibs-pic
Filename: ./i386/xlibs-static-pic_4.3.0-0pre1v1_i386.deb
Size: 249554
MD5sum: 8c7c2c664b89d51d69bb670eb80b81c7
Description: X Window System client extension library PIC archives



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KDE 3.1.4 and Audio/System Sounds

2003-09-18 Thread Bjoern Beckmann
Hello!
Sorry for the previous post being in German - haven`t kept in mind that 
this is an English speaking list.
Now, my problem is the following:

I used to have installed KDE 3.1.2 on my woody system (deb 
www.debian.cz/pub/debian-czsk/kde/Debian/woody/i686) and everthing 
seemed to work just right as far as I could tell. Then I wanted to 
upgrade to the latest version from download.kde.org/stable/3.1.4/Debian, 
I did both an apt-get upgrade and the second time purged all of KDE and 
did a fresh install of KDE. Both times though, I did not get to hear any 
system sounds. On the one hand I can test the sound system from the 
control center/sound system tab, and it works. But when I want to set 
the sounds for system notifications  I can choose the files to be played 
at startup, but when I press the play button, neither doI hear nothing, 
nor do I get any error message, just nothing. Trying to play an audio 
file from within konqueror also fails. There I get the message: kdeinit 
could not launch kaboodle. But kaboodle works just fine when being 
launched from konsole.

Anyone else having experienced this? Where else could I start searching 
to get this solved?

Thanks a lot for your help.
Gruss,
Bjoern Beckmannn



Again: Delays starting KDE apps after upgrade 3.1.3 => 3.1.4

2003-09-18 Thread Frank Mehnert
Hi,

since upgrading KDE to version 3.1.4 on Debian Woody I experince delays
when starting KDE applications. Don't had these delays on KDE 3.1.3. My
/etc/hosts contains valid entries for localhost and the name of the machine.

The delays occur for example when
- accessing the first webpage from konqueror (status line says "xxx
  contacted. Waiting for reply where xxx is the hostname. It is
  regardless which host I access. The next access comes at fast as
  expected.
- starting kmail (needs more than 10 seconds to start, half that long
  with KDE 3.1.3)

Any suggestions?

Frank
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Re: kdm doesn't work (Re: kdelibs 3.1.4 debian woody packages problem fixed)

2003-09-18 Thread Ralf Nolden
On Thursday 18 September 2003 09:14, Chris Cheney wrote:
> On Thu, Sep 18, 2003 at 08:47:12AM +0200, Francis Verscheure wrote:
> > Andreas Pakulat wrote:
> > > Why that? I don't see why kdelibs4-dev should not depend on X11
> > > package?
> > >
> > > Andreas
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > Dependency on xlibs-pic is new for kdelibs4-dev, so is it really needed
> > ?
> > And the real problem is that a lot of people using Woody use unofficial
> > XFree ports with newer version than 4.1.0.
> >
> > Francis
>
> Does anyone know why this actually doesn't just work? XFree86 4.2 btw
> includes xlibs-pic as well, 4.3 includes xlibs-static-pic however it
> provides xlibs-pic so this should still work, right? Maybe the issue
> is the people using the 4.3 backport have to manually install
> xlibs-static-pic for it to satisfy the dependency (iow apt-get won't
> automatically resolve the issue).

The problem is that dannyS's backport/build is too old. Therefore people using 
woody using the older woody packages are not getting that because 
xlibs-static-pic wasn't part of that package set IIRC.

Ralf
>
> Chris
>
> Package: xlibs-static-pic
> Priority: extra
> Section: libdevel
> Installed-Size: 760
> Maintainer: Debian X Strike Force 
> Architecture: i386
> Source: xfree86
> Version: 4.3.0-0pre1v1
> Replaces: xlibs-pic
> Provides: xlibs-pic
> Depends: xlibs-dev (= 4.3.0-0pre1v1), libc6-dev
> Conflicts: xlibs-pic
> Filename: ./i386/xlibs-static-pic_4.3.0-0pre1v1_i386.deb
> Size: 249554
> MD5sum: 8c7c2c664b89d51d69bb670eb80b81c7
> Description: X Window System client extension library PIC archives

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Restoring Taskbar

2003-09-18 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

I was trying to setup Mozilla Thunderbird in a new install of Debian Woody and 
I accidentally deleted the Internet Menu in my taskbar.  Is there anyway of 
restoring the defaults?  Please be specific.  I am a newbie.

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Re: Again: Delays starting KDE apps after upgrade 3.1.3 => 3.1.4

2003-09-18 Thread Frank Mehnert
On Thursday 18 September 2003 16:59, Patrick Dreker wrote:
> > since upgrading KDE to version 3.1.4 on Debian Woody I experince delays
> > when starting KDE applications. Don't had these delays on KDE 3.1.3. My
> > /etc/hosts contains valid entries for localhost and the name of the
> > machine.
> >
> Check /etc/hosts if localhost resolves to 127.0.0.1 and if your hostname
> <-> IP combination matches. Also check, if the loopback device is there...

That I meant as I said that I have valid entries for localhost and the
name of the machine in /etc/hosts.

Frank
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problem with docs

2003-09-18 Thread Tom Deblauwe
Hi, 

I have this problem with compiling applications for KDE.  For example 
'Apollon', found at apollon.sf.net .  The docs are always installed in /usr/
share/doc/HTML/en/apollon while from other programs they are in /usr/share/
doc/kde/HTML/en/apollon.  KHelpcenter only finds those handbooks from the 
programs which have their docs installed in the latter directory, so I don't 
have my docs available from the help menu in Apollon!  What can I do about 
this?

many thanks,
Tom Deblauwe,




Re: problem with docs

2003-09-18 Thread Paul Cupis
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On Thursday 18 September 2003 19:30, Tom Deblauwe 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have this problem with compiling applications for KDE.  For example
> 'Apollon', found at apollon.sf.net .  The docs are always installed
> in /usr/ share/doc/HTML/en/apollon while from other programs they are
> in /usr/share/ doc/kde/HTML/en/apollon.  KHelpcenter only finds those
> handbooks from the programs which have their docs installed in the
> latter directory, so I don't have my docs available from the help
> menu in Apollon!  What can I do about this?

 $ ./configure
 $ make
 # make install kde_htmldir=/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML

should do it for you. (I think)

Paul Cupis
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Re: Again: Delays starting KDE apps after upgrade 3.1.3 => 3.1.4

2003-09-18 Thread Doug Holland
On Thu 18 Sep 2003 5:54 am, Frank Mehnert wrote:
> Hi,
>
> since upgrading KDE to version 3.1.4 on Debian Woody I experince delays
> when starting KDE applications. Don't had these delays on KDE 3.1.3. My
> /etc/hosts contains valid entries for localhost and the name of the
> machine.
>
> The delays occur for example when
> - accessing the first webpage from konqueror (status line says "xxx
>   contacted. Waiting for reply where xxx is the hostname. It is
>   regardless which host I access. The next access comes at fast as
>   expected.
> - starting kmail (needs more than 10 seconds to start, half that long
>   with KDE 3.1.3)
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Frank

Here are a couple of the usual suspects that cause KDE slowness:

1. Out-of-date font cache.  Fix by running fc-cache -f -v as root.

2. /tmp/.ICE-unix/ missing or has wrong owner/group/permissions.  To fix, 
execute following commands as root.
mkdir /tmp/.ICE-unix
chown root.root /tmp/.ICE-unix
chmod 1777 /tmp/.ICE-unix

3. I've also found that if you're on a non-permanent net connection such as a 
dialup, it helps to run your own DNS server, since many programs expect DNS 
service to be working at all times, otherwise they throw errors or sit 
through long timeouts before responding to user input.  For a home 
workstation on a ppp connection, pdnsd is a good personal DNS server that 
gets the job done without creating too many hassles.




Re: kdelibs4-dev and XFree86 4.3.0

2003-09-18 Thread Achim Bohnet
On Wed, Sep 17, 2003 at 11:21:46PM +0200, Andreas Richter wrote:
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> 
> Hi,
> 
> i have installed the Daniel Stone Backport of XFree86 4.3.0 Packages from 
> http://people.debian.org/~mmagallo/packages/ on my Woody-System. 
> 
> Yesterday i upgraded my System to the brand new KDE 3.1.4 Packages from 
> ftp.kde.org. But the Package kdelibs4-dev couldn't be upgraded and now i 
> can't this packages installed. The dependencies need the Package 
> xlibs-pic from the original XFree86 Woody Pakages. 
> 
> Hm. What can i do to develop again with my KDE 3.1.4 and XFree86 4.3.0? 
> Have anybody a Reason to solve this Problem?

Well, at least with xfree86 4.2 & 4.3 it's possible.  It helps a
lot that X11 has a client server architecture ;)  I've updated the
server and fonts to 4.3 but kept the client side libraries for 4.2
I use kdelibs-dev without problems:

[EMAIL PROTECTED](0) ~ $ dpkg -l | egrep ' 4.2.1-'
ii  xbase-clients   4.2.1-3.bunk.5  miscellaneous X clients
ii  xlib6g  4.2.1-3.bunk.5  pseudopackage providing X 
libraries
rc  xlibmesa3   4.2.1-3.bunk.5  XFree86 version of Mesa 3D 
graphics library
ii  xlibs   4.2.1-3.bunk.5  X Window System client 
libraries
ii  xlibs-dev   4.2.1-3.bunk.5  X Window System client 
library development files
ii  xlibs-pic   4.2.1-3.bunk.5  X Window System client 
extension library PIC archives
ii  xnest   4.2.1-3.bunk.5  nested X server
ii  xprt4.2.1-3.bunk.5  X print server
ii  xterm   4.2.1-3.bunk.5  X terminal emulator
ii  xvfb4.2.1-3.bunk.5  virtual framebuffer
X server

[EMAIL PROTECTED](0) ~ $ dpkg -l | egrep ' 4.3.0-'
ii  lbxproxy4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2Low Bandwidth X (LBX) proxy 
server
ii  libdps1 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2Display PostScript (DPS) 
client library
ii  libxaw6 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2X Athena widget set library 
(version 6)
ii  libxaw7 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2X Athena widget set library
ii  proxymngr   4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2X proxy services manager
ii  twm 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2Tab window manager
ii  x-window-system-core4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2X Window System core 
components
ii  xdm 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2X display manager
ii  xfonts-100dpi   4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2100 dpi fonts for X
ii  xfonts-100dpi-transcode 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2100 dpi fonts for X 
(transcoded from ISO 10646-1)
ii  xfonts-75dpi4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody275 dpi fonts for X
ii  xfonts-75dpi-transcoded 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody275 dpi fonts for X 
(transcoded from ISO 10646-1)
ii  xfonts-base 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2standard fonts for X
ii  xfonts-cyrillic 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2Cyrillic fonts for X
ii  xfonts-scalable 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2scalable fonts for X
ii  xfree86-common  4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2X Window System (XFree86) 
infrastructure
ii  xfwp4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2X firewall proxy server
ii  xlibmesa-dev4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2Mesa 3D graphics 
development library meta-package [XFree86]
ii  xlibmesa-gl-dev 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2Mesa 3D graphics library 
development files [XFree86]
ii  xlibmesa-glu-dev4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2Mesa OpenGL utility library 
development files [XFree86]
ii  xlibmesa4-dri   4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2Mesa 3D graphics library 
modules [XFree86]
ii  xlibmesa4-gl4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2Mesa 3D graphics library 
[XFree86]
ii  xlibmesa4-glu   4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2Mesa OpenGL utility library 
[XFree86]
ii  xserver-common  4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2files and utilities common 
to all X servers
ii  xserver-xfree86 4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2the XFree86 X server
ii  xspecs  4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2X protocol, extension, and 
library technical specifications
ii  xutils  4.3.0-0ds2.0.0woody2X Window System utility 
programs

[EMAIL PROTECTED](0) ~ $ dpkg -l kdelibs\* | grep '^i'
ii  kdelibs-bin 3.1.4-0woody1   KDE core binaries
ii  kdelibs-data3.1.4-0woody1   KDE core shared data
ii  kdelibs43.1.4-0woody1   KDE core libraries
ii  kdelibs4-dev3.1.4-0woody1   KDE core libraries 
(development files)
ii  kdelibs4-doc3.1.4-0woody1   KDE core library 
documentation


So try downgrading to client libs to 4.1 or if this does not work,
goto back to 4.2 fro bunk repository

deb http://www.fs.tum.de/~bunk/debian woody/bunk-1 main contrib non-free

Achim
> 
> Thanks &
> 
> - -- 
> Gruss/Greetings
> Andreas Richter
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Re: problem with docs

2003-09-18 Thread Tom Deblauwe
On Thursday 18 September 2003 22:33, you wrote:
> [ please keep this stuff on-list, so others can be helped ]
>
> On Thursday 18 September 2003 20:21, Tom Deblauwe
>
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Thursday 18 September 2003 20:55, Paul Cupis wrote:
> > > On Thursday 18 September 2003 19:30, Tom Deblauwe
> > >
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I have this problem with compiling applications for KDE.  For
> > > > example 'Apollon', found at apollon.sf.net .  The docs are always
> > > > installed in /usr/ share/doc/HTML/en/apollon while from other
> > > > programs they are in /usr/share/ doc/kde/HTML/en/apollon.
> > > > KHelpcenter only finds those handbooks from the programs which
> > > > have their docs installed in the latter directory, so I don't
> > > > have my docs available from the help menu in Apollon!  What can I
> > > > do about this?
> > >
> > >  $ ./configure
> > >  $ make
> > >  # make install kde_htmldir=/usr/share/doc/kde/HTML
> > >
> > > should do it for you. (I think)
> >
> > thanx!
> >
> > But is it not possible to do something in the debian/rules so that
> > this is set OK when someone makes a package with "dpkg-buildpackage"
> > for example?
>
> Yes, sure. Change the "make install" line in debian/rules to have this
> additional argument. See the debian/rules in the guarddog package, for
> example.
>
> Paul Cupis

thanx

I found an interesting txt file called packaging.txt, well hidden somewhere in 
the kde repository(in kdelibs I think) which gives guidelines.

greetz,
Tom,




Re: kdelibs4-dev and XFree86 4.3.0

2003-09-18 Thread Andreas Richter
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Am Donnerstag, 18. September 2003 23:41 schrieb Achim Bohnet:
> Well, at least with xfree86 4.2 & 4.3 it's possible.  It helps a
> lot that X11 has a client server architecture ;)  I've updated the
> server and fonts to 4.3 but kept the client side libraries for 4.2
> I use kdelibs-dev without problems:
[snip]

hui. thats cool stuff :)

but i have now compile the kdelibs4 package from source package on my 
system (tip from andreas pakulat) and have these packages installed. and 
that works properly.

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Re: Again: Delays starting KDE apps after upgrade 3.1.3 => 3.1.4

2003-09-18 Thread Anders Ellenshøj Andersen
On Thursday 18 September 2003 23:29, Doug Holland wrote:

> 2. /tmp/.ICE-unix/ missing or has wrong owner/group/permissions.  To fix,
> execute following commands as root.
> mkdir /tmp/.ICE-unix
> chown root.root /tmp/.ICE-unix
> chmod 1777 /tmp/.ICE-unix

In sid, this directory is created at user login with the users username and 
users group, but with the same permissions as stated.

I have tried creating these files as root in an init script which get executed 
on boot, and it doesn't make any difference in speed on my system. Not any 
that I can notice anyway.

But I can't complain about the speed in any case. It's as snappy as bulky old 
XFree86 gets.

Anders

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konqueror and select box

2003-09-18 Thread Wolfgang Mader
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hello,

I want to use drop down menus with konqueror on a homepage. no they must have 
a fixed size not depending on what is hold in the menu. there is a 
declaration using style sheet, but konqueror ignores this. because of that 
the menu ist much too big and the design of the page is brocken.
is there a way to tell konqueror a fixed size of drop down menus?
thank you
wolfgang
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More KDE font problems

2003-09-18 Thread Ryan Thoryk
I'm running Debian Sid x86 on my laptop and recently an update (kde i think) 
caused all kde applications to (including kdm) default to the first available 
truetype font, which looks almost unreadable.  I tried fooling around with it 
and moving the font it uses, but it simply chooses the next available font.  I 
moved the entire /usr/share/fonts/truetype directory and it still finds the 
next available font (this time non-truetype).  Also the KDE configuration panel 
does nothing to fix this.  Also I'm not using the XFS font server from my XF4 
config file (should I?).  It seems like the KDE font configs broke or 
something...

Any suggestions?

Ryan Thoryk
Unix and Network Specialist
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Re: More KDE font problems

2003-09-18 Thread Amit Shah
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On Friday 19 Sep 2003 08:19, Ryan Thoryk wrote:
> I'm running Debian Sid x86 on my laptop and recently an update (kde i
> think) caused all kde applications to (including kdm) default to the
> first available truetype font, which looks almost unreadable.  I tried
> fooling around with it and moving the font it uses, but it simply chooses
> the next available font.  I moved the entire /usr/share/fonts/truetype
> directory and it still finds the next available font (this time
> non-truetype).  Also the KDE configuration panel does nothing to fix
> this.  Also I'm not using the XFS font server from my XF4 config file
> (should I?).  It seems like the KDE font configs broke or something...
>
> Any suggestions?

Downgrading libqt3c102-mt (and its dependencies) to 3.2.1-3 from 3.2.1-4 
helps.

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