ALSA lib control.c:601:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid CTL default

2002-10-13 Thread suresh kumar sharma
hi,
I re-installed ALSA on my debian 2.4.19 system and it
installed fine.but when I use amixer I get this error.
##
ALSA lib control.c:601:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid
CTL default
amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such file or
directory
###

is it looking for some default file or is it some
setup problem.
any suggestions on how to fix it.
thanks
suresh

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KDE3-Usage

2002-10-13 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Hi,

some thanks to the good packaging :D
Installation from testing is a bit difficult, though, and really needs a lot 
of packages from unstable, even ones that I would not think of like 
cdparanoia and lots of others (although it makes no sense to request version 
3a9.8-7 when version 3a9.8-6 is present!).

So there it is, KDE3.0.4. Works great, although at first I cannot see any 
advances to KDE2.2.2 at all. The proposed feature that it might load faster 
simply does not exist (here). The font handling did not get any better. 
Klipper can be on its own in the control bar although it would make more 
sense when it simply stays with the system tray.

The Liquid (0.9.5-1) style got a lot worse, though. The translucency is 
unusable because it is crippled. The problem is that the menus "unfold" in a 
short animation (how can I turn this off?). This creates some kind of 
background image instead of the translucency effect.
BTW, are there plans to make X use an alpha channel for such things?
XFree5? ;)
Beside that: it is looking much better than the default style.

An advantage is that sound now also works without starting artsd (I never 
did). Interesting but sadly incomplete: noatun does not want to start without 
artsd running, so I use xmms. But xmms has still the same problem: I can only 
choose between a working dock icon (systen tray) or the "show no window 
managers window frame around my window, so that attaching playlist, etc. 
works". Still, there is nothing that can be done with kstart to work around 
this :(

Kmail now works quite a bit faster on downloading mails :) But on the change 
to the new version, the gpg setting got lost - well, it took some work to go 
through all the options again.
Kscd works a lot better now, especially the track names display is ot broke 
anymore :)

Finally: a thanks to the developers, packagers and the bug hunting 
community...

HS

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kdbg and kde3

2002-10-13 Thread Alan Chandler
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I have kde3 (3.0.4) installed

I am setting up my development environment around kdevelop which appears to be 
built with the kde3 libraries.  However, it seems to use kdbg in order to 
provide debugging capabilities, and therefore I would like to install that 
too. 

At the moment, kdbg only appears to be built against kde2 libraries, so I have 
loaded up the source and was looking to change the debian/control file to 
allow it to build against kdelibs4.  I would make my own deb.

However, one of the binary dependancies is shown as kdebase-libs.  Looking at 
the version numbers in dselect, this package seems to be one of the kde2 
ones, and there is no matching package for kde3. 

Do I need that dependancy anymore, or is kdelibs4 sufficient?  
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Re: kdbg and kde3

2002-10-13 Thread Ben Burton

A version of kdbg built against KDE3 is available from the same site as the 
koffice packages:

deb http://people.debian.org/~bab/kde3 ./

> Do I need that dependancy anymore, or is kdelibs4 sufficient?

You can happily remove it; it's already been removed from 1.2.5-3 (which is 
the package available from the above site).

Ben (kdbg maintainer).

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Re: kdbg and kde3

2002-10-13 Thread Alan Chandler
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On Sunday 13 October 2002 10:01 am, Ben Burton wrote:
> deb http://people.debian.org/~bab/kde3 ./
Thanks - saves a bit of work
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Re: KDE 3.1beta2 packages

2002-10-13 Thread Michael Stucki
Sylvain Joyeux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I they are no more on ftp.kde.org. Where are they located now ?

I'm still wondering where these packages have gone.

deb ftp://download.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/kde-3.1-beta2/Debian/woody/ ./

does not work atm.

Now where can I get the latest Beta packages?

Michael





libarts1-alsa ?

2002-10-13 Thread Hendrik Sattler
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Hi,

is there such a thing?
Generally, my problem is the following:

I installed the alsa vir-midi module (I want to connect this with sequencer 
support to the timidity sequencer client and then write a how-to about this 
;))
I can see that the virmidi is active:
- ---snip---
$ cat /proc/asound/oss/sndstat
Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v0.9.0rc3 emulation code)
Kernel: Linux linux 2.4.19acpi #3 Son Sep 29 11:58:47 CEST 2002 i686
Config options: 0

Installed drivers:
Type 10: ALSA emulation

Card config:
VIA 8233 at 0xe400, irq 12
Virtual MIDI Card 1

Audio devices:
0: VIA 8233 (DUPLEX)

Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Midi devices:
1: Virtual Raw MIDI

Timers:
7: system timer

Mixers:
0: mixer00
1: mixer10
- -snip-
and this also shows up in kcontrol. But neither kmix sees this mixer10 nor can 
I select the new midi device in kcontrol.

Please help me

HS

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Re: KDE 3.1beta2 packages

2002-10-13 Thread Mark Purcell
On Sun, Oct 13, 2002 at 11:48:16AM +0200, Michael Stucki wrote:
> deb ftp://download.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/kde-3.1-beta2/Debian/woody/ ./
> 
> Now where can I get the latest Beta packages?

They seem to of gone as of last week. Have a look for a post earlier in
the week from Ralf Nolden.

The only source of KDE-3.1-beta2 packages which I am aware of is Karolina's
at:

deb http://shakti.ath.cx/debian/kde3.1-beta2 ./

There is a mirror site, but the mirror isn't in sync with upstream.

David Pashley you should update the FAQ with these locations.

Mark




KDE3 - Debian/experimental distribution proposal (was: yes i am alive ;)

2002-10-13 Thread Mark Purcell
On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 02:05:38AM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote:
> Feel free to reply to this thread regarding any ideas on cleanups, or
> anything else related to packaging.

There seems to be a lot of confusion about Debian and KDE3 and I think
most of it stems from not having a standard consistent location were people
can find the Debian KDE3 debs from. While we don't want to pollute
Debian/unstable with non gcc-3.2 KDE3 packages, we also aren't building
and managing the Debian KDE3 packages in a coherent fashion.

Enter the Debian/experimental distribution, which is a perfect place for
the various Debian KDE3 package maintainers to coordinate their packages:

  The packages with this distribution value are deemed by their
  maintainers to be high risk. Oftentimes they represent early
  beta or developmental packages from various sources that the
  maintainers want people to try, but are not ready to be a part
  of the other parts of the Debian distribution tree. Download at
  your own risk.

For example over the last few months if you were on the ball you knew
you could chase up and around the following locations to get a hold
of a 'full' KDE3 suite of Debian packages:

people.debian.org   # Various additional KDE maintainers such as myself
kde3.geniussystems.net  # Seems to come and go, but it currently has
some 3.0.8 deb's up!
shakti.ath.cx   # Karolina's great but different work with 3.0.8
download.uk.kde.org # Linked to official KDE release, current best
source for 3.0.4, had some 3.0.8 for a while but
then they went again :-(

plus there are mirrors of all of the above sites in various states of 
completion and many mirrors are lagging synchronisation by a couple of releases.

So if I'm a user and want to have these various packages I need an extra
couple if not 4 or 5 different apt/sources lines included. If I'm one of
the many other KDE3 package maintainers (which I am) I have a real problem
deciding which fork of the above I should build my packages for which I then
upload to people.debian.org.


My proposal is that Debian KDE3 maintainers use the Debian/experimental
distribution for the coordination of Debian KDE3. 

This has the advantages that these packages then become a part of the 
Debian distribution/ mirrors but are flagged as being 'work in progress', 
other Debian KDE3 developers know what the current core is and can 
work to uploading complementary packages to a known state and location. 
All Debian developers are able to upload their packages to the experimental
distribution by indicating this in the package debian/changelog.
Once the gcc-3.2 transition is developed then this can be the appropriate 
time to move KDE3 from experimental to unstable.

Mark


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Re: KDE3 - Debian/experimental distribution proposal (was: yes i am alive ;)

2002-10-13 Thread Ralf Nolden
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On Sunday 13 October 2002 12:53, Mark Purcell wrote:

Hi Mark,

well, as much as this would work out, someone has to do the work actually. And 
regarding the experimental distribution - that brings your work environment 
to a highly unstable state, not to speak about the packagers having to build 
the packages on this system.

Now, let's please be reasonable about what can be done easily and what is 
desireable. Have a quick look at the current state:

- - KDE 3.1 has entered message freeze. The RC's are not too far away now, so 
we 
should better take care of fixing remaining issues and completing 
installation routines (this is what chris, bab, dpash and I do now). 

- - KDE 3.1 beta2 is a different story. If yenar wouldn't have provided his 
build, then there would have been none at all. From the user perspective I'd 
say, oooh too bad, why did those packages disappear ? From the developer 
perspective, I say, well, this build wasn't done correctly anyway because it 
did't take the tag that was used for the beta but has been a CVS checkout 
shortly after the beta and was compiled using qt-copy from CVS which was 
qt-3.1 beta 1 at that time, which was known to be binary incompatible to 
everything else. So, sorry to say that, but I just uploaded yenar's build to 
ftp.kde.org because I thought, better this build than no build. The ftp 
admins have taken the version down due to the many complains about the apt 
line whatsoever. The result is, if something is provided as-is especially for 
a beta and everyone complains, the stuff is taken down unfortunately. Nobody 
had the time to fix this, so here it went.

The other thing is what version of Debian users want to run KDE on. I myself 
would prefer woody, although testing and unstable are fine, too. That's why I 
think I would like to continue doing those two builds until I've set up yet 
another system that can handle a testing build. Both of them are moving 
targets though, much more than woody (obviously). So, a continuous usable KDE 
build makes sense on woody the most, that's why I would stick to keeping the 
quality there while at the same time from the packager perspective providing 
debs for unstable will give us a nice feedback about the status of what we're 
doing. Just uploading and building requires time and energy that one 
sometimes better puts into fixing stuff than providing debs for bleeding edge 
geeks like we are.

My idea would be better to create a debian.kde.org website to collect all this 
information and to host a permanent official build on ftp.kde.org. That can 
be the releases as they are plus additional applications that are provided 
for those builds. We can sort those in into ftp if we like to, and that is 
the easiest way to provide people a one-liner for their sources.list to 
update regularly.

Other than that, after that is done someone is needed to volunteer for 
rewriting the Debian documentation part in the KDE documentation system, have 
a look at KHelpCenter yourself :-)

Comments ? Ideas ? Or is my proposal just wishful thinking from a KDE 
developer perspective ? :-)

Ralf


> On Sat, Oct 12, 2002 at 02:05:38AM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote:
> > Feel free to reply to this thread regarding any ideas on cleanups, or
> > anything else related to packaging.
>
> There seems to be a lot of confusion about Debian and KDE3 and I think
> most of it stems from not having a standard consistent location were people
> can find the Debian KDE3 debs from. While we don't want to pollute
> Debian/unstable with non gcc-3.2 KDE3 packages, we also aren't building
> and managing the Debian KDE3 packages in a coherent fashion.
>
> Enter the Debian/experimental distribution, which is a perfect place for
> the various Debian KDE3 package maintainers to coordinate their packages:
>
>   The packages with this distribution value are deemed by their
>   maintainers to be high risk. Oftentimes they represent early
>   beta or developmental packages from various sources that the
>   maintainers want people to try, but are not ready to be a part
>   of the other parts of the Debian distribution tree. Download at
>   your own risk.
>
> For example over the last few months if you were on the ball you knew
> you could chase up and around the following locations to get a hold
> of a 'full' KDE3 suite of Debian packages:
>
> people.debian.org # Various additional KDE maintainers such as myself
> kde3.geniussystems.net# Seems to come and go, but it currently has
>   some 3.0.8 deb's up!
> shakti.ath.cx # Karolina's great but different work with 3.0.8
> download.uk.kde.org   # Linked to official KDE release, current best
>   source for 3.0.4, had some 3.0.8 for a while but
>   then they went again :-(
>
> plus there are mirrors of all of the above sites in various states of
> completion

Kde 3.0.3 slow

2002-10-13 Thread JF L.

Hi,

I've just a problem of speed: yesterday, after upgrading my debian (40 
packages), i restarded my computer and kde was blocked at "Initialisizing 
services". In fact, it was not really blocked: it takes 3 to 4 minutes to 
boot ! And after, some application like konqueror takes also 2 or 3 minutes 
to launch. But applicstion based ont gtk works fine. Kmail works fine too. 
It's very strange.

I am thinking about a problem with Qt (because i think that qt have been 
upgraded by my apt-get upgrade (the version 3.0.5 is installed)) but i tried 
to downgrade qt to 3.0.4 and it doesn't solve the problem. It's only what I 
found when reading the archive of the list.

Any idea ?

thanks,

JFL






Re: KDE3 - Debian/experimental distribution proposal (was: yes i am alive ;)

2002-10-13 Thread Andreas Dieling
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> The other thing is what version of Debian users want to run KDE on. I
> myself would prefer woody, although testing and unstable are fine, too.

Packages containing the latest stable KDE release should be provided for 
woody.

KDE betareleases should require at least testing because of the newer qt 
version.

> My idea would be better to create a debian.kde.org website to collect all
> this information and to host a permanent official build on ftp.kde.org.
> That can be the releases as they are plus additional applications that are
> provided for those builds.

Such a site would be great; but someone has to find to maintain it...

>
> Other than that, after that is done someone is needed to volunteer for
> rewriting the Debian documentation part in the KDE documentation system,
> have a look at KHelpCenter yourself :-)

Who reads help?

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Re: alsamixer error.

2002-10-13 Thread Charles de Miramon
Le Samedi 12 Octobre 2002 20:29, suresh kumar sharma a écrit :
> hi,
> I Re installed ALSA on my system.
> everything went fine.
> but when I tried using amixer I got this error.
> ###
> ALSA lib control.c:601:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) Invalid
> CTL default
> amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such file or
> directory
> ###

Did alsaconf worked on your system ?

Does running the script /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/examples/snddevices of any 
help ?

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kmid only crashes on startup

2002-10-13 Thread Hendrik Sattler
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Hi,

I installed kmid 3.0.4 from download.uk.kde.org
and it simply crashes on startup:
0x40e7b609 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#0  0x40e7b609 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x40ef0dd0 in __check_rhosts_file () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x40d2ceeb in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#3  0x405eaa20 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#4  0x40d2aa44 in pthread_sighandler () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#5  0x40e04518 in sigaction () from /lib/libc.so.6
#6  0x4006beb7 in DeviceManager::setMidiMap () from /usr/lib/libkmid.so.0
#7  0x40043538 in kmidClient::setMidiMapFilename () 
from /usr/lib/libkmidpart.so.1
#8  0x40040efc in kmidClient::kmidClient () from /usr/lib/libkmidpart.so.1
#9  0x4003cebe in kmidFrame::kmidFrame () from /usr/lib/libkmidpart.so.1
#10 0x08049445 in __register_frame_info ()
#11 0x40df40bf in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6

Any ideas?

HS

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Re: Konqueror + Debian + IPv6?

2002-10-13 Thread Gerrit Einhoff
Felix Homann wrote:
> As I've told before there has been a complain about this already
> somewhere. Unfortunetly I can't remember where (I think at depianplanet,
> but can't find it anymore). He made a very detailed analysis of the
> problem. (It could have been assigned to DNS lookups vi IPv6 as well. All
> I remember is that it had to do with IPv6...)

It was on this list:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2002/debian-kde-200207/msg00109.html

Very annoying problem. I get the same with, e.g. www.theregister.co.uk, 
sometimes www.heute.de and others...

 - Gerrit




Re: KDE3 - Debian/experimental distribution proposal (was: yes i am alive ;)

2002-10-13 Thread Alan Chandler
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On Sunday 13 October 2002 12:25 pm, Ralf Nolden wrote:

>
> Now, let's please be reasonable about what can be done easily and what is
> desireable. Have a quick look at the current state:
>

Could I just clarify something about objectives.  It seems to me that there 
are two slightly different objectives which should drive the way the effort 
is organised.  It seems to me a desire to handle the gcc 3.2 transition is 
somehow preventing the second objective being met.

The two objectives are


1) From a kde perspective, ensuring the debian community has an up to date 
version of kde.

Given this perspective the idea is to provide debs from kde.org

a) To support woody as the primary underlying system but presumably also the 
other sets of debian systems (ie from debian's testing or unstable sections) 
with the latest stable version of kde

b) Later, providing "bleeding edge" .debs though an automated approach on 
kde.org

Given these two perspectives the current approach of using kde.org seems well 
founded.  Just one minor thing ...

Would it be possible to avoid putting the release number in the directory 
heirarchy - so that the sources.list line has to be edited for each release.  
Just use the distinction between stable (currently 3.0.4 - presumably in the 
not too distant future 3.1) and unstable (currently 3.1 beta 2 - but, could 
be regular snapshots of cvs if the package build could be automated).


2) From a debian perspective of having a full range of kde options (stable, 
testing and unstable) in a standard debian archive so that anyone building a 
debian system has a knowledge of where to find what he is looking for.

a) Woody remains super stable and at the moment remains kde 2.2
b) Sarge ideally should have a relatively recent but stable kde (ie kde 
3.0.3/4).  Unfortunately nothing gets into sarge that has not been in 
unstable for a while is getting into unstable therefore nothing is flowing to 
testing.

c) Sid - unstable.  I was looking at the CVS debian/control file for qt 
earlier this week and it looked as though it was being set up to create 
separate package names for the gcc 3.2 packages - so that ultimately it would 
be possible for 2.95 and 3.2 packages to sit side by side in the distribution 
(although the user would only be able to pick one set because of conflicts)

What I don't understand is why qt/kde packages compiled with gcc 2.95 (ie 
precisely those currently up on kde.org as 3.0.4) could not flow into 
unstable now whilst the work to create these extra packages gets completed at 
which point the debian release number gets incremented and a whole new set of 
packages appear from the same source build.

The other question I raise is, is there a way that all the other talent out 
there who have created these other sites with packages on could join in the 
work to make the transition to 3.2 more quickly (does it need cvs access or 
could a mailing list be created where people could post patches).

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Re: Konqueror + Debian + IPv6?

2002-10-13 Thread Felix Homann
Thank you, Gerrit. This was indeed the post i was looking for.

In the meantime it's author, Scott Zuk, sent me an email to inform me about 
the original post and give me some further information. I asked him for 
permission to put his email here on the list, but since I haven't got a reply 
by now (it's Sunday, I guess he's got better things to do than reading and 
replying to email all day!! ) here's an excerpt (I think that's legitimate) 
telling me how he handles the problem:

" I had to fix this myself by recompiling kdelibs.  You can download the 
kdelibs source tarball off the kde mirrors and check the debian/rules file.  
Look for the place where the option --with-ipv6-lookup=yes is set and change 
it to no.  Recompile kdelibs using dpkg-buildpackage, check the man page for 
any options you might need and any build depends.  You should end up with new 
debs of kdelibs that you can then install with dpkg.
Personally, I have to rebuild kdelibs for every release to get rid of this 
annoying problem. "

I will give this a try.
Hopefully this option finds its way into the (semi-)official debs soon.

Thank you, Scott. Great help!

Felix





Re: Konqueror + Debian + IPv6?

2002-10-13 Thread Felix Homann
I've just rebuild kdelibs. Now everything is fine.

Thank you, Scott, again.

Felix 




how to turn off konsole beeping?

2002-10-13 Thread Hendrik Sattler
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Hi,

I use KDE3.0.4 and want to turn konsole beeping off. Sadly, it used the same 
sound as kmail does for new messages, so I cannot turn it off in kcontrol.

I tried:
xset -b
setterm -blength 0
but it did not help.
Any suggestions?

HS

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Re: how to turn off konsole beeping?

2002-10-13 Thread Vyacheslav E. Sidin
Hi,
you can do that thru konsole menu.

[Menu]->Settings->Bell->None

Hope this help.

WBR, Vyacheslav




Monday 14 October 2002 00:39, Hendrik Sattler ÑÐÐ:
> Hi,
>
> I use KDE3.0.4 and want to turn konsole beeping off. Sadly, it used the
> same sound as kmail does for new messages, so I cannot turn it off in
> kcontrol.
>
> I tried:
>   xset -b
>   setterm -blength 0
> but it did not help.
> Any suggestions?
>
> HS
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Re: [debian-kde] List configuration & usability

2002-10-13 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Oct 10, 2002 at 10:19:56AM +1000, Nigel A. Chapman wrote:
> The list does not prefix its postings with the list name, eg. 
> [debian-kde] (as in my subject line).  This makes the postings very 
> difficult to visually distinguish from the couple of dozen spam messages 
> in my inbox.  I administer a number of yahoogroups and mailman lists, 
> and believe this to be sufficently 'standard' that I'm surprised not to 
> find it on the debian lists.

AFAIK, it's a deliberate decision by the list admins.  A lot of people
just find it annoying to waste space in the subject line, given how
trivial it is to filter mail from lists into specific folder...

I use mutt and adding [debian-kde] to each subject line would take away
about a third of the available subject space.  I think that space would
be much better spent describing the subject of your email:)

> It has occurred to me that I could probably set up filtering in Mozilla 
> to use the X-Loop (or some other) header as a send-to-a-folder criterion 
> to get around this, but (1) there will be lots and lots of potential 
> users who wouldn't think of that, (2) no other list I subscribe to 
> requires this and (3) I'm not yet sure of the value of belonging to this 
> list, due to this problem, so I'm not too inclined to spend a much time.
> looking into that.  Maybe that's lazy, yes. :)

I've found the Debian lists to be some of the friendliest around.  If
you ever need help with general Debian issues, debian-user will sort you
out, while here is for KDE specific stuff.

-rob


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