Euro configuration

2002-06-01 Thread Arthur
Hello,
I have a problem with the euro configuration in KDE, I read the
debian-euro-HOWTO, and I have configured properly my system but it can't
show the euro symbol. I only have TrueType fonts when I'm root, but when
I'm a normal user I can have fonts which can represent eurosign but I have "?"
in console and in other applications. I read bugs related to KDE and euro sign, 
it worked fine for two weeks. Who can help to reconfigure my KDE for
euro representation.
Thanks a lot


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Xfree86 and KDM from kde 3 (unofficial debs)

2002-06-01 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
Hi,
I have to install Debian on a Toshiba Satellite Pro 6000 laptop, where I 
need XFree 4.2 to be able to use X (with the trident driver). I 
installed woody and then the binary distribution of XFree86 4.2. 
Everything works fine now, except that kdm does not work (which is 
unacceptable for me, as the laptop is for a completely un-technical 
person, and the login manager needs to have an easy option to shut the 
laptop down (gdm and xdm still work, but they can't shutdown the 
laptop). In /var/log/kdm.log I get
/usr/bin;kdm: relocation error: /usr/bin/kdm: undefined symbol: 
_XdmcpWrapperToOddParity
for every attempt to start kdm. Looking at the error message, I guess I 
need to recompile kdm. But what is the easiest way to do this so that 
the XFree 4.2 headers and libs are used (I can't just ininstall the 
xfree 4.1 debs, because that breaks several dependencies)???

Please help me,
Reinhold
PS: Are there any unofficial XFree 4.2 around that one can use to 
upgrade instead of using the binary distribution without the package 
management?

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Re: Xfree86 and KDM from kde 3 (unofficial debs)

2002-06-01 Thread Gilles Grandou
(sent to Reinhold only by mistake...)

Le Samedi 1 Juin 2002 15:13, Reinhold Kainhofer a écrit :
> Hi,
> I have to install Debian on a Toshiba Satellite Pro 6000 laptop, where I
> need XFree 4.2 to be able to use X (with the trident driver). I
> installed woody and then the binary distribution of XFree86 4.2.
> Everything works fine now, except that kdm does not work (which is
> unacceptable for me, as the laptop is for a completely un-technical
> person, and the login manager needs to have an easy option to shut the
> laptop down (gdm and xdm still work, but they can't shutdown the
> laptop). In /var/log/kdm.log I get
> /usr/bin;kdm: relocation error: /usr/bin/kdm: undefined symbol:
> _XdmcpWrapperToOddParity
> for every attempt to start kdm. Looking at the error message, I guess I
> need to recompile kdm. But what is the easiest way to do this so that
> the XFree 4.2 headers and libs are used (I can't just ininstall the
> xfree 4.1 debs, because that breaks several dependencies)???

in /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers, add an -ac swith to the X command:

:0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/X11/X -ac -dpi 75 -nolisten tcp vt7

but don't ask me why!

> PS: Are there any unofficial XFree 4.2 around that one can use to
> upgrade instead of using the binary distribution without the package
> management?

If you just need XF 4.2 to support new hardware, just grap the Xxserv.tgz and 
Xmods.tgz binaries from xfree86.org, install them over your debian install 
(in /usr/X11R6), and put a few packages in hold state into dselect:
xlibmesa-dev
xlibmesa3
xlibosmesa-dev
xserver-common
xserver-xfree86

and you will be able to live for a few weeks until XF4.2 arrives in sid...

Cheers,
Gilles.



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Re: Xfree86 and KDM from kde 3 (unofficial debs)

2002-06-01 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
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Hello Gilles,

Thanks very much for your quick response!

Am Samstag, 1. Juni 2002 15:24 schrieben Sie:
> Le Samedi 1 Juin 2002 15:13, Reinhold Kainhofer a écrit :
> > laptop). In /var/log/kdm.log I get
> > /usr/bin;kdm: relocation error: /usr/bin/kdm: undefined symbol:
> > _XdmcpWrapperToOddParity
> > for every attempt to start kdm. Looking at the error message, I guess I
> > need to recompile kdm. But what is the easiest way to do this so that
> > the XFree 4.2 headers and libs are used (I can't just ininstall the
> > xfree 4.1 debs, because that breaks several dependencies)???
>
> in /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers, add an -ac swith to the X command:
> :0 [EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/X11/X -ac -dpi 75 -nolisten tcp vt7

I'm using the kdm from KDE 2.2.2, but that shouldn't make so much difference.

I tried your suggestion, but kdm still crashes because of the undefined 
symbol. It seems that the crash happens even before the files in 
/etc/kde2/kdm are executed at all :-

> but don't ask me why!

According to the man page, this turns off the access control. Hmm, don't know 
what this has to do with xdmcp.

I think the XdmcpWrapperToOddParity is really not compiled into the binary 
distribution of XF4.2:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/X11R6/lib# objdump -t libX11.so.6.2 | grep dmcp
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/usr/X11R6/lib#

I also tried to compile my own Xfree 4.2 from source, but the same thing 
happens...

Currently I'm recompiling kdebase-2.2.2 (which includes kdm) from woody, maybe 
that helps...


> If you just need XF 4.2 to support new hardware, just grap the Xxserv.tgz
> and Xmods.tgz binaries from xfree86.org, install them over your debian
> install (in /usr/X11R6), and put a few packages in hold state into dselect:

Yes, that's what finally did.

> and you will be able to live for a few weeks until XF4.2 arrives in sid...

Let's hope it's only a few weeks (Branden says the XFree 4.2 packages won't be 
available until woody is finished). 


Reinhold
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Gaah! KDE madness!

2002-06-01 Thread Peter Clark
So I decided to throw caution to the wind and install the KDE3 debs. 
Unfortunately, two Very Bad Things are now plague me. One, I can only use 
kppp as root. It says that it cannot open the modem when I try as a normal 
user. I confirmed that I am in the dialout group, and it works fine with 
root--I'm sending this, obviously. The second thing is that the fonts are all 
hopelessly foobar. In an ironic twist, some (but not all) of the TrueType 
fonts work (namely, Arial and Times New Roman), but all the other fonts, 
including the fixed-width fonts, all default to an illegible cursive font. 
I've tried using different font servers, or no font server, but keep getting 
that wretched cursive font.
Mind you, I did not purge any of the previous settings; I'm at a loss 
as to 
why its behaving this way. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
:Peter


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Starting KDE3

2002-06-01 Thread JABG
Hello,
I have compiled KDE3 in my debian sid and it works fine. The problem is
that, when I reboot the computer or I turn on it, if I launch KDE I have
to wait 3 o 4 minutes untill it is ready. If I start it a second time
whithout rebooting, it's ok. 

Another problem is that I lost a taskbar applet in every launching and I
must add it.

Who can tell me what it's wrong?

Thans a lot.

PS: Excuse for my English. It isn't good.




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Re: Xfree86 and KDM from kde 3 (unofficial debs)

2002-06-01 Thread Frank Van Damme
On Saturday 01 June 2002 03:51 pm, Gilles Grandou wrote:
> > PS: Are there any unofficial XFree 4.2 around that one can use to
> > upgrade instead of using the binary distribution without the package
> > management?
>
> If you just need XF 4.2 to support new hardware, just grap the Xxserv.tgz
> and Xmods.tgz binaries from xfree86.org, install them over your debian
> install (in /usr/X11R6), and put a few packages in hold state into dselect:
> xlibmesa-dev
> xlibmesa3
> xlibosmesa-dev
> xserver-common
> xserver-xfree86
>
> and you will be able to live for a few weeks until XF4.2 arrives in sid...

A few weeks? Thank god... I'm triple-Xing between Xf-debian 4.1, xf-from 
xfree86 4.2, and AcceleratedX from Xi graphics... Yes, runlevel editing comes 
in handy ;-)

(also see sig :-p )

Frank   

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Re: Xfree86 and KDM from kde 3 (unofficial debs)

2002-06-01 Thread Dave Swegen
If you can't get kdm working, and you need shutdown control from the
login screen I suggest you take a look at wdm, which is the kdm
equivalent for window maker. It works fine for me with kde3, and doesn't
cause the annoying font problems that I get with kdm. HTH.

Cheers
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Re: Xfree86 and KDM from kde 3 (unofficial debs)

2002-06-01 Thread Reinhold Kainhofer
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Am Samstag, 1. Juni 2002 16:35 schrieb Reinhold Kainhofer:
> Currently I'm recompiling kdebase-2.2.2 (which includes kdm) from woody,
> maybe that helps...

It did, yes, it did! Finally... I just needed to get the kdebase source
from 2.2.2 as shipped with woody, and did a dpkg-buildpackage on them (while
having XF 4.2 installed). The resulting debs now work fine.

Thanks for all your help
Reinhold
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Re: Automatic responses to mails sent to debian-kde@lists.debian.org

2002-06-01 Thread Jaakko Niemi
On Fri, 31 May 2002, Wolfgang Ratzka wrote:
> Am Freitag, 31. Mai 2002 22:49 schrieb Fred K Ollinger:
> 
> >
> > I agree. This is unethical. So is sending spam. I suggest that one would
> > send two copies of spam back for each copy recieved. This is not as
> > unethical b/c one was spammed and one is only returning the favor. If the
> > spammer is manually sending out emails and gets a few replies back then
> > this won't cause any trouble. But if one sends out unsolicited mail to a
> > few million people and they get a few million back then they get what they
> > dished out, tit for tat. If you are the only one sending mail back then
>   ^^^
> 
> The problem is, that you can never be sure whether your "retribution" will
> actually hit the right person. So you might fry some poor sys admin
> who has enough trouble with his clueless users anyway ;-).
> 
> So apparently <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> has subscribed to the mailing
> list and has set up some smart-ass filter tool that blocks traffic from
> the mailing list produces these silly automatic responses...
> 
> In this case the best solution would be for some list admin to remove 
>   <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> from the mailing list.

 We don't have any subscriptions from that domain even, so unless someone
 shows headers with more information, there's very little that we can do.

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Re: KDE 3.0.1 debs

2002-06-01 Thread Anton Hattendorf
Am Sonntag, 26. Mai 2002 00:23 schrieb Anton Hattendorf:
Hello

> I've installed them without any problems, but when I wanted to start kde3
> (via startx) I got this:
> ---
> DCOPServer up and running.
> KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2
> KCrash: Application Name = kded path =  pid = 7305
> KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2
> KCrash: Application Name = ksplash path =  pid = 7293
> DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-7304' to 'kded'
> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
> KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2
> KCrash: Application Name = kcminit path =  pid = 7312
> KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2
> KCrash: Application Name = knotify path =  pid = 7315
> DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-7314' to 'knotify'
> ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!
> KCrash: crashing crashRecursionCounter = 2
> KCrash: Application Name = ksmserver path =  pid = 7319
> kdeinit: Fatal IO error: client killed
> kdeinit: sending SIGHUP to children.
> KLauncher: Exiting on signal 1
> kdeinit: sending SIGTERM to children.
> kdeinit: Exit.
> ---
> Aftes this I had removed all kde and qt packages and reinstalled kde3, but
> it still doesn't work.

I just found the reason for this problem: A broken X11 installation

I solved this problem by installing the "x-window-system" Package.

I think the problem was caused because one of this packages was not installed:
lbxproxy menu proxymngr twm x-window-system x-window-system-core xdm 
xfonts-75dpi xfonts-scalable xfs xfwp xnest xprt xspecs xvfb

Bye
Anton


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Re: KDE 3.0.1 debs

2002-06-01 Thread Andy Saxena
On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 04:28:54PM -0700, Tim Grogan wrote:
> >> deb http://kde3.geniussystems.net/debian ./
> 
> I tried this in the sources.list and it can't find ./ Packages 404 not found.
> Any suggestions?  Thanks
> 
> Tim

It works perfectly at this time.

-Andy


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Re: Gaah! KDE madness!

2002-06-01 Thread Andy Saxena
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 10:15:16AM -0500, Peter Clark wrote:
> root--I'm sending this, obviously. The second thing is that the fonts are all 
> hopelessly foobar. In an ironic twist, some (but not all) of the TrueType 
> fonts work (namely, Arial and Times New Roman), but all the other fonts, 
> including the fixed-width fonts, all default to an illegible cursive font. 
> I've tried using different font servers, or no font server, but keep getting 
> that wretched cursive font.
>   Mind you, I did not purge any of the previous settings; I'm at a loss 
> as to 
> why its behaving this way. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
> :Peter
> 

Try this outside your KDE session, perhaps from the console:

$ mv ~/.kde ~/.kde-backup

Then restart your KDE session.

-Andy

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kscreensaver not working

2002-06-01 Thread Doug Holland
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When I go into the control center, and try to set up a screen saver, I only 
get four choices: Blank Screen, Random, Worm and XScreensaver.  Whatever 
happened to all the other screensavers, especially my beloved Matrix 
waterfall?
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Re: Starting KDE3

2002-06-01 Thread Andy Saxena
On Sat, Jun 01, 2002 at 06:42:42PM +0200, JABG wrote:
> Hello,
> I have compiled KDE3 in my debian sid and it works fine. The problem is
> that, when I reboot the computer or I turn on it, if I launch KDE I have
> to wait 3 o 4 minutes untill it is ready. If I start it a second time
> whithout rebooting, it's ok. 
> 
> Another problem is that I lost a taskbar applet in every launching and I
> must add it.
> 
> Who can tell me what it's wrong?
> 
> Thans a lot.
> 
> PS: Excuse for my English. It isn't good.

What's the speed of your machine? How much RAM do you have?

Ordinarily, any application started a second time on a Linux system
starts up faster. This has to do with the algorithms the Linux kernel
uses for memory management. Anybody using OpenOffice can vouch for that
:-}.

-Andy


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Re: Starting KDE3

2002-06-01 Thread JABG
I have a 266 Mhz Pentium II with 192 MB of RAM.

Yes, any application started a second time starts up faster, but there
is a big differece with my KDE. And I don't see the splash screen untill
3 minutes after launching it.

And what about the taskbar applets?

Thanks :)


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libxml2 and libxslt1 are broken in kdelibs4?

2002-06-01 Thread gerhard
Hi,

I'm rather new to debian but I want to update to kde 3.0.1.
I modified my sources.list and run apt-get update.
kdelibs4 is broken by UNSATISFIED dependencies of libxml2 (>= 
2.4.19-4) and libxslt1 (>= 1.0.16). 
I can not add these by typing + nor remove by -

Probably I have to remove conflicting kde 2.2.2 packages?

How can I solve that, or isn't that a serious issue.
I want to use kde 2.2.2 and kde 3.0.1 next to each other (sorry 
about my english) choosen by kdm. There will not be a serious 
problem with that intention?

My sources.list looks like:
# primary mirror
deb http://kde3.geniussystems.net/debian ./
deb http://kde.debian.co.nz/debian ./
# mirrors all kde debs
deb http://kde.ping.uio.no/i386 ./

# KDE 3.0.1 Grundpakete
# deb http://kde3.geniussystems.net/debian ./
# Noch mehr Pakete
deb http://people.debian.org/~bab/kde3 ./
# KDevelop 2.1.1 for KDE 3.0
deb http://people.debian.org/~njordan kde3.0/
# kdegames 3.0.1
deb http://people.debian.org/~schepler kdegames/

# official liquid
deb  http://arachni.kiwi.uni-hamburg.de/~harlekin ./binary-i386/

Any suggestion is appreciate.

regards

gerhard

ps:
under suse 7.3 it's suggested to do the following steps:

1. removing old xml packages

rpm -e libxslt-devel
rpm -e libxslt
rpm -e libxml2-devel
rpm -e --nodeps libxml2

2. install new xml packages

rpm -Uvh libxml2-2.4.19-1.i386.rpm libxslt-1.0.14-1.i386.rpm

3. install several needed libs

4. remove disturbing packages

rpm -e  kdenetwork-devel
rpm -e kdenetwork

Q: Got it to do something with the broken kdelibs4 (in other words: 
is it the same or a similar problem?) Are similar things neccessary 
with woody? If yes: How to do it in debian


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Re: libxml2 and libxslt1 are broken in kdelibs4?

2002-06-01 Thread gerhard
Hi,

sorry to followup myself

Am Sonntag, 2. Juni 2002 03:10 schrieb gerhard:

> kdelibs4 is broken by UNSATISFIED dependencies of libxml2 (>=
> 2.4.19-4) and libxslt1 (>= 1.0.16).
> I can not add these by typing + nor remove by -

I forgot to mention that I used aptitude, _and_ that I just got 
problems to understand apt-get and the deb/dpkg system completely.

gerhard


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Re: Starting KDE3

2002-06-01 Thread Andy Saxena
On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 12:54:27AM +0200, JABG wrote:
> I have a 266 Mhz Pentium II with 192 MB of RAM.
> 
> Yes, any application started a second time starts up faster, but there
> is a big differece with my KDE. And I don't see the splash screen untill
> 3 minutes after launching it.
> 

Did you use any CPU optimizations when you compiled it?


> And what about the taskbar applets?

Which taskbar applet is causing this problem?


-Andy


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Re: libxml2 and libxslt1 are broken in kdelibs4?

2002-06-01 Thread Andy Saxena
On Sun, Jun 02, 2002 at 03:10:16AM +0200, gerhard wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm rather new to debian but I want to update to kde 3.0.1.
> I modified my sources.list and run apt-get update.
> kdelibs4 is broken by UNSATISFIED dependencies of libxml2 (>= 
> 2.4.19-4) and libxslt1 (>= 1.0.16). 
> I can not add these by typing + nor remove by -
> 
> Probably I have to remove conflicting kde 2.2.2 packages?


libxml2 and libxslt1 should be upgradeable.

There are many KDE2 packages that conflict with the KDE3 ones, and these
have to be removed, though some can be upgraded.


By the way, how can you apt-get update and then claim to be using
aptitude? :-}

If you are used to using aptitude from the command line, you should
check out aptitude's interactive interface.

> 
> How can I solve that, or isn't that a serious issue.
> I want to use kde 2.2.2 and kde 3.0.1 next to each other (sorry 
> about my english) choosen by kdm. There will not be a serious 
> problem with that intention?

You cannot do this with the debs from geniussystems. Kdelibs4 conflicts
with kdelibs3!

> 
> My sources.list looks like:
> # primary mirror
> deb http://kde3.geniussystems.net/debian ./
> deb http://kde.debian.co.nz/debian ./
> # mirrors all kde debs
> deb http://kde.ping.uio.no/i386 ./
> 
> # KDE 3.0.1 Grundpakete
> # deb http://kde3.geniussystems.net/debian ./
> # Noch mehr Pakete
> deb http://people.debian.org/~bab/kde3 ./
> # KDevelop 2.1.1 for KDE 3.0
> deb http://people.debian.org/~njordan kde3.0/
> # kdegames 3.0.1
> deb http://people.debian.org/~schepler kdegames/
> 
> # official liquid
> deb  http://arachni.kiwi.uni-hamburg.de/~harlekin ./binary-i386/
> 
> Any suggestion is appreciate.
> 
> regards
> gerhard


I don't see a reference to the debian archive. You need to add one.
Libxml2 and libxslt1 can be found there. In fact, I wouldn't be
surprised if you see the two packages listed under "Obsolete" in
aptitude. 

> 
> ps:
> under suse 7.3 it's suggested to do the following steps:
> 
> 1. removing old xml packages
> 
> rpm -e libxslt-devel
> rpm -e libxslt
> rpm -e libxml2-devel
> rpm -e --nodeps libxml2
> 
> 2. install new xml packages
> 
> rpm -Uvh libxml2-2.4.19-1.i386.rpm libxslt-1.0.14-1.i386.rpm
> 
> 3. install several needed libs
> 
> 4. remove disturbing packages
> 
> rpm -e  kdenetwork-devel
> rpm -e kdenetwork
> 
> Q: Got it to do something with the broken kdelibs4 (in other words: 
> is it the same or a similar problem?) Are similar things neccessary 
> with woody? If yes: How to do it in debian
> 

Eek! No RPMs please, we are Debian :-}. Debian automatically handles
dependency issues. If two packages conflict, you will know it firsthand.

-Andy


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