Re: Experimental KDE3 debs -- first impressions

2002-05-12 Thread Michael Spanier
Hi,


I also have installed the kde3 and I'm really impressed. It is much faster 
then the first unofficial kde3 debs.

The install went not so smooth, but after explaining the situation clearly to 
dpkg and friendly by using --force-depends and --force-overwrite I was able 
to get a running kde3.

The only thing missing is noatun. I keeps crashing. Does anyone also have this 
problems? 

Crashlog :

...
(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
0x41548a39 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#0  0x41548a39 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x415bfe48 in __check_rhosts_file () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x41324453 in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#3  0x40930ff0 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#4  0x41321f54 in pthread_sighandler () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#5  0x414d16b8 in sigaction () from /lib/libc.so.6
#6  0x4007afe7 in NoatunStdAction::playlist () from /usr/lib/libnoatun.so.0
#7  0x45b6d007 in Excellent::Excellent ()
   from /usr/lib/kde3/noatun_excellent.so
#8  0x45b6cd7e in create_plugin () from /usr/lib/kde3/noatun_excellent.so
#9  0x4007370e in LibraryLoader::loadSO () from /usr/lib/libnoatun.so.0
#10 0x40072c17 in LibraryLoader::loadAll () from /usr/lib/libnoatun.so.0
#11 0x40072a2c in LibraryLoader::loadAll () from /usr/lib/libnoatun.so.0
#12 0x400701a6 in NoatunApp::loadPlugins () from /usr/lib/libnoatun.so.0
#13 0x4006ecd0 in NoatunApp::NoatunApp () from /usr/lib/libnoatun.so.0
#14 0x40015e6f in main () from /usr/lib/kde3/noatun.so
#15 0x414c114f in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6



Greetings

Michael


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Re: Experimental KDE3 debs -- first impressions

2002-05-12 Thread Mark Purcell
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On Sun, 12 May 2002 20:50, Michael Spanier wrote:
> The install went not so smooth, but after explaining the situation clearly
> to dpkg and friendly by using --force-depends and --force-overwrite I was
> able to get a running kde3.

The instructions located at http://calc.cx/kde.txt expressly state that you 
should NEVER use --force stating that if you do 'you are likely to 
permanentaly break your system requiring a full reinstall'.

There is a good reason for this, if dpkg is telling you there is a conflict 
between packages you had better believe it!!   If dpkg is reporting a 
conflict the 'safe' option is to purge the installed conflicting package and 
then reattempt installation. As pointed out elsewhere this maywell mean that 
you will also be forced to uninstall other related packages such as xmms or 
other KDE packages, but such is life on the bleeding edge.

Remember these packages have not yet been integrated to provide a smooth 
upgrade path from the Debian KDE2 packages to Debian KDE3 packages.  The 
smooth upgrade should (will) be provided by the Debian KDE3 packages when 
they are offically included in the Debian distribution. Until then these 
packages which you are installing are not guarenteed to upgrade from KDE2 
smoothly.  Hence the instructions to purge all kdelibs3 and libarts packages 
before you even attempt installation.

> The only thing missing is noatun. I keeps crashing. Does anyone also have
> this problems?

noatun is working fine here, but then again I purged my existing libarts prior 
to installation.  Likely you --force-overwite the installation of libarts 
which may well mean you have all sorts of incompatible libarts libraries 
still sitting on your system trying to be used in an inconsistent manner, 
which would present the symptoms you report of noatun crashing.

I would suggest that you purge all your KDE packages, reinstall the KDE2 
packages, purge again and then install the KDE3 packages per the 
instructions.

Mark
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Re: Fwd: How do I install KDE 3.0.1 Debs?

2002-05-12 Thread Hendrik Naumann
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Hi Chris

Am Samstag, 11. Mai 2002 05:30 schrieb Chris Cheney:
> On Sat, May 11, 2002 at 01:44:37AM +0200, Hendrik Naumann wrote:
> > If you grep alpha-debs you should be able to deal with dpkg.
> > There are plenty of force switches you may need to use.
> > dpkg --force-help
> > will shows you all of them.
>
> The only thing force will help you do is fubar your system...
> Perhaps you don't recall someone's test debs which removed
> /usr/sbin previously. If install fails it will tell you why which
> then you can remove the offending packages without needing force. 

You are right!
In the end this is an issue of trust and laziness. Trust in you (or 
rkrusty befor) and the community that would find such things verry 
fast. The major disadvantage I see, is that 
$ dpkg --force-overwrite *.deb
will hide the problems I should provide to you as a feedback for 
debugging the debs.

Hendrik


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Re: KDE 3 Update -- Please

2002-05-12 Thread Jean-Michel Leclant

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Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2002 11:22 AM
Subject: Re: KDE 3 Update -- Please


> On Thursday 09 May 2002 11:31 pm, Jean-Michel Leclant wrote:
> > You can try this uri, but I think you'd better to wait the official
> > package.
> >
> > deb http://kde3.geniussystems.net/debian ./
>
> I have a slight problem apt-getting these (apt just takes and I think it
> might have something to do with my apt_preferences file. It looks like
this:
>
> dionysos:/etc/apt# cat preferences
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=testing
> Pin-Priority: 600
>
> Package: *
> Pin: release a=unstable
> Pin-Priority: 80
>
>
> How can I make sure that I download the packages from that http spot
above?
>
> thank you.
>
>
Here is my apt_preferences file when kde2 was only available in sid :

Package: kde
Pin: release a=unstable

Package: *
Pin: release a=testing

Of course your sources.list file must reference testing and unstable deb
sources.

Bonne chance ;-)

Jean-Michel


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Re: Compiling Qt 3.0.4

2002-05-12 Thread Alexander Jenisch
this needs to be done, because u HAVE to, as the INSTALL reads. else u 
cannot compile the stuff, nasty, but that's the way it is.;)

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Re: Experimental KDE3 debs -- first impressions

2002-05-12 Thread Sami Lempinen
On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 09:49:59PM +1000, Mark Purcell wrote:

> I would suggest that you purge all your KDE packages, reinstall the KDE2 
> packages, purge again and then install the KDE3 packages per the 
> instructions.

Please drop me from the Cc: line as I am subscribed to the list.

-Sami
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Re: Evolution has no help or email properties

2002-05-12 Thread Daniel D Jones
On Sun, 2002-05-12 at 13:36, Dale Hair wrote:
> On Sun, 2002-05-12 at 07:17, Daniel D Jones wrote:
> > Running Evolution 1.0.3 on Debian testing.  Whenever I click on any of 
> > the "Help" topics, nothing is happens.  I can go to
> > /usr/share/gnome/help/evolution/C/index.html and
> > the file is present.  I can double click it in a file manager or enter
> > it manually in the browser's path and it opens fine.  But selecting any
> > "Help" menu item does nothing.
> 
> It used to display in galeon for me until galeon quit working, error
> message /usr/lib/libgtkembedmoz.so: undefined symbol:
> GetFlatBufferHandle__C10nsACString.  Anyway, using Gnome, in the Control
> Center I changed  Document Handlers > URL Handlers to
> 
> ghelp gnome-moz-remote --newwin %s

Under KDE Control Center/File Browsing/File Associations I don't find
any mention of ghelp.  It does list HTML files, which are associated
with my browser.  I've looked through the list and compared it to my
laptop, which is also running Debian testing, and I find no difference. 
Am I looking in the wrong place?




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Re: Experimental KDE3 debs -- first impressions

2002-05-12 Thread Chris Cheney
On Sun, May 12, 2002 at 09:49:59PM +1000, Mark Purcell wrote:
> The instructions located at http://calc.cx/kde.txt expressly state that you 
> should NEVER use --force stating that if you do 'you are likely to 
> permanentaly break your system requiring a full reinstall'.
> 
> There is a good reason for this, if dpkg is telling you there is a conflict 
> between packages you had better believe it!!   If dpkg is reporting a 
> conflict the 'safe' option is to purge the installed conflicting package and 
> then reattempt installation. As pointed out elsewhere this maywell mean that 
> you will also be forced to uninstall other related packages such as xmms or 
> other KDE packages, but such is life on the bleeding edge.
> 
> Remember these packages have not yet been integrated to provide a smooth 
> upgrade path from the Debian KDE2 packages to Debian KDE3 packages.  The 
> smooth upgrade should (will) be provided by the Debian KDE3 packages when 
> they are offically included in the Debian distribution. Until then these 
> packages which you are installing are not guarenteed to upgrade from KDE2 
> smoothly.  Hence the instructions to purge all kdelibs3 and libarts packages 
> before you even attempt installation.

Exactly, I guarantee that you can not upgrade from KDE2 to the current
debs since they have no (or very few) conflicts in the control file.  I
am adding as many as I know about in my 3rd set of debs that I am
working on currently.  I will not upload debs into sid until I am
reasonably sure that I have taken care of all the upgrade issues.

Thanks,

Chris Cheney


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Re: Experimental KDE3 debs -- first impressions

2002-05-12 Thread Jarno Elonen
Hi,

Just installed KDE3 from Calc's experimental packages - and it works very well 
indeed! Thank you!

Here are some (minor) problems I bumped into:

 + kdebase-doc and konqueror contain same files => had to remove
   kdebase-doc before I could install konqueror

 + same thing with kwallpapers and kdebase-data

 + had to issue "apg-get install" kdelibs and kdebase multiple times
   before everything got installed ok. I think, though, that this
   was mostly because of the two conflicts above.

 + kdm installer started kdm automatically => login manager popped up
   and dpkg stuck in waiting state; had to kill kdm from console to allow
   dpkg finish its job

- Jarno


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