Re: multiple X sessions

2002-05-09 Thread Jay Kline
On Monday 06 May 2002 03:35 pm, Gabor Gludovatz wrote:
> The perfect solution would be (as in WinXP...) to start only one X server,
> and when you lock your screen (you leave your computer) other users could
> login as well, without touching your existing session. And with a key
> combination you could change among the running sessions after having
> yourself reauthenticated.

If that is the way you want to run things, you could always put a mix of VNC 
and X on your box.  Have a "login manager" that works much like the chooser 
for X that selects VNC sessions, have the vnc client running in full screen 
mode so it would appear to be the local host. Since VNC is open source, it 
wouldnt take too many modifications to the client to do that.

Jay


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KDE 3 Update -- Please

2002-05-09 Thread Robert Tilley
I know that we're supposed to wait until XFree86 4.2 first appears for Debian 
before asking about KDE 3.  Too bad.

May 2, May 3, May 4, and May 5 (You get the idea) have passed and still no 
information on either of those packages is available -- at least to me.

No, I don't have the expertise to package software for Debian nor the time.  
I am only looking for a hint about when The Day of Release might occur.
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Any information or comments are most appreciated.

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Re: KDE 3 Update -- Please

2002-05-09 Thread Tomas Pospisek's MailLists
On Thu, 9 May 2002, Robert Tilley wrote:

> I know that we're supposed to wait until XFree86 4.2 first appears for Debian
> before asking about KDE 3.  Too bad.
>
> May 2, May 3, May 4, and May 5 (You get the idea) have passed and still no
> information on either of those packages is available -- at least to me.
>
> No, I don't have the expertise to package software for Debian nor the time.
> I am only looking for a hint about when The Day of Release might occur.

Check the archive. There are a few people that built it and are providing
.debs. You should find the respective postings in the archive.
*t


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Re: KDE 3 Update -- Please

2002-05-09 Thread Jean-Michel Leclant
Hi,

You can try this uri, but I think you'd better to wait the official package.

deb http://kde3.geniussystems.net/debian ./

Jean-Michel


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environment variables + aliases

2002-05-09 Thread Dan Slatford
Having compiled kde3 on woody, playing around and generally being thoroughly 
impressed, I have a question that I don't seem to be able to find answers to 
anywhere else, so thought I'd ask here.

environment variables and aliases = kde (started via startkde) doesn't seem to 
preserve existing aliases defined in /etc/profile, or execute /etc/profile 
again, which is annoying. It does, however, set up one of it's own - ls='ls 
--color=auto' and LS_COLORS environment variable among others which I'd like 
to alter, and add a couple more aliases,  but I *cannot* seem to work out 
where the hell it's doing this. Any ideas?

Just while I remember there's another thing I can't find a solid answer to as 
well, whats the difference between entering the path to truetype/type1 fonts 
in XF86Config and XftConfig ? KDE seems to use them whichever file they're 
in, and do font smoothing, while any other traditional wm is only aware of 
TTF's if I enter them into XF86Config. What gives? Whats XftConfig file all 
about? Should the font paths be in both? I did note things look a little 
better entering the truetype path in XF86Config at the beginning... and 
removing the two :unscaled lines as I read wasnt needed in 4.x, uh, somewhere 
;)

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Re: KDE 3 Update -- Please

2002-05-09 Thread Chris Cheney
On Thu, May 09, 2002 at 11:31:34PM +0200, Jean-Michel Leclant wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> You can try this uri, but I think you'd better to wait the official package.
> 
> deb http://kde3.geniussystems.net/debian ./
> 
> Jean-Michel

Yep that is the uri for my test debs there are still known bugs though.
For more information you can go to #debian-kde on OPN.  KDE 3.0.1 was
just tagged yesterday and I am building a new set of debs against the
official sources.  Once I get the debs debugged I may upload to sid even
before woody is released, as I understand it nothing from sid is going
into woody any longer so it should be safe to upload now.

Chris


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Re: KDE 3 Update -- Please

2002-05-09 Thread Doug Holland
On Thursday 09 May 2002 10:43 am, Robert Tilley wrote:
> I know that we're supposed to wait until XFree86 4.2 first appears for
> Debian before asking about KDE 3.  Too bad.
>
> May 2, May 3, May 4, and May 5 (You get the idea) have passed and still no
> information on either of those packages is available -- at least to me.
>
> No, I don't have the expertise to package software for Debian nor the time.
> I am only looking for a hint about when The Day of Release might occur.

No offense, but is it really a good idea to hold off on official KDE 3 until 
XFree86 4.2?  From what I hear, the Debian priesthood hasn't even begun to 
debianize X 4.2, and that it will require oodles of hacking & debugging 
before it is considered ready for the Debian masses.  KDE 3 does not require 
X 4.2, why wait for it?

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Re: KDE 3 Update -- Please

2002-05-09 Thread Chris Cheney
On Thu, May 09, 2002 at 09:30:36PM -0600, Doug Holland wrote:
> On Thursday 09 May 2002 10:43 am, Robert Tilley wrote:
> > I know that we're supposed to wait until XFree86 4.2 first appears for
> > Debian before asking about KDE 3.  Too bad.
> >
> > May 2, May 3, May 4, and May 5 (You get the idea) have passed and still no
> > information on either of those packages is available -- at least to me.

Is Woody released yet NO!

Although I have heard word that Woody has been closed to files migrating
into it so it may now be safe to upload KDE.

> > No, I don't have the expertise to package software for Debian nor the time.
> > I am only looking for a hint about when The Day of Release might occur.
> 
> No offense, but is it really a good idea to hold off on official KDE 3 until 
> XFree86 4.2?  From what I hear, the Debian priesthood hasn't even begun to 
> debianize X 4.2, and that it will require oodles of hacking & debugging 
> before it is considered ready for the Debian masses.  KDE 3 does not require 
> X 4.2, why wait for it?

I thought it would have been ready around the same time as KDE 3.0.1 but
it appears it won't be.  I may upload KDE before 4.2 is released after
all.  I am currently working on a third round of test debs with the
official KDE 3.0.1 tar files.

Chris


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