Re: Debian KDE Status Update - 20020309

2002-03-11 Thread tluxt2
Thanks Daniel.  A few follow ups:

--- Daniel Stone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 10, 2002 at 02:43:35PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > As far as now installing kde for i386 is concerned:
> > 
> > You mention that kdegraphics and kdeutils need new uploads.  Are there
> > currently older versions of these packages that exist inthedebianaptpackage
> > servers that it is ok to install (they will be merely missing the packages
> > kamera & arc)?
> 
> kdegraphics and kdeutils do not exist in any usable form in testing.
> kamera is completely unusable with the new gphoto, and ark *WILL*
> randomly trash your files. When KDE3 rocks around, my kdenonbeta
> packages will include karchiver.

I could perhaps have been clearer if I'd put that question after the next
question in that email, because I am focusing on getting KDE installed on a Sid
system.

So, how about in Sid?  

Should someone installing KDE on a base Sid system install kdegraphics &
kdeutils?

If not, any idea when those will be in Sid and ready to install?  
Is someone working on getting those packages into Sid?  Who?

.
(Continuing on, about installing KDE into a Sid system:)
> > Or, should one do an "apt-get install ..." with a string of theavailablekde
> > packages?
> 
> Yes, this is probably the best option.
> 
> > If installing a string of packages is the best procedure,whatspecificallyis
> > the suggested string of packages?
> 
> "kdm konsole konqueror kate noatun kcalc frozen-bubble" should help.

What about all the other packages ChrisC has mentioned recently?

Shouldn't the install line look more like this:
"apt-get install  kdelibs kdebase kdeadmin kdemultimedia kdenetwork kdepim"

[And maybe also include, (if these are now available in Sid) "kdegraphics
kdeutils".  And, also include, as you suggested, "kdm konsole konqueror kate
noatun kcalc frozen-bubble"?  (Are none of those included as part of the
packages listed on the above apt-get line?)]

Which of those (listed on that apt-get line), packages, if any, should not be
installed on a base Sid system as of now?

Also, how important are kdegraphics, and, especially, kdeutils, to having a
functional KDE-Debain system?  

TIA.


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Re: packaging kde-apps

2002-03-11 Thread Olaf Stetzer
Am Samstag, 9. März 2002 20:00 schrieb Hendrik Naumann:
> Hi
>
> Now I fetched the latest kdenetwork package to figure our how Chris
> Cheney did them. If found that make install is called with a
> different setting, that would be in my case:
> make DESTDIR=`pwd`/debian/tmp/usr  install
>
> but now the executables went to debian/tmp/usr/usr/bin.
>
> So my questions are:
>
> Is there a more up to date template one can use to debianize the
> source-tarball?
>
> What is the difference of DESTDIR and prefix in the kde-make scheme?
>

Actually, you need both to build a correct debian package. --prefix
is used during ./configure to tell the make system where the program
is going to be installed. For make install you need to set 
DESTDIR='pwd'/debian/PACKAGENAME/usr to install everithing.
This is in fact the directory from which the *.deb is build. The trick is,
that you get a *tar.gz inside the deb with the correct paths of all files
when you run tar from within 'pwd'/debian/PACKAGENAME. When installing
the *.deb the tar.gz is extracted within / so all files end up in the 
directorys you configured with --prefix in the beginning. Does this help
a bit?

Olaf
 
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Re: Debian KDE Status Update - 20020309

2002-03-11 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
> On Sunday 10 March 2002 20:26, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > You want to play frozen-bubble.
> > You really, really, want to play frozen-bubble.

Argh, no, don't. For one it doesn't game over so you'll be desperately
stuck at level 50 trying to beat it. Second you can not set the level to
start at so every time you break down, crying that you did not pass 50 and
next day get yourself up and try again, you'll have to get through the
other 49 level, some of which are quite hard ;-)))
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Re: Debian KDE Status Update - 20020309

2002-03-11 Thread Stephan Jaensch
On Monday 11 March 2002 11:01, Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists wrote:
> > On Sunday 10 March 2002 20:26, Daniel Stone wrote:
> > > You want to play frozen-bubble.
> > > You really, really, want to play frozen-bubble.
>
> Argh, no, don't. For one it doesn't game over so you'll be desperately
> stuck at level 50 trying to beat it. Second you can not set the level to
> start at so every time you break down, crying that you did not pass 50 and
> next day get yourself up and try again, you'll have to get through the
> other 49 level, some of which are quite hard ;-)))

You do know that the source is available, right? There is really no need to 
start at level 1 again. :-)


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Re: packaging kde-apps

2002-03-11 Thread Chris Cheney
Typically you have:

configure --prefix=/usr

and

make install DESTDIR=$(CURDIR)/debian/tmp

You may need more than just the --prefix option on configure. You can
look in KDE cvs HEAD to see what I have done with arts and kdelibs for
examples.

It is really nice if you use builddir != srcdir, see arts/kdelibs for an
example of that also. I imagine a lot of people don't know about that
feature of autotools.

Chris

BTW - dh_make --custom is not a valid argument afaict, you should
probably use dh_make -t.