Re: Anti Aliased fonts in SID?
On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 02:59:27PM +1100, Mark Lee wrote:
> I was just curious to weather anti aliased fonts are included in SID's kde
> 2.2.2.? I was reading the lists approximately 1-2 weeks ago and I noticed
> DanielS say that he wasnt going to include the packages due to their
> instability. Anyway my SID box hasn't been updated for about one month and to
Yes, anti-aliased fonts are still available in the kde packages; however,
* they are not turned on by default, as they are currently "buggy as hell"
* any bug reports regarding anti-aliased fonts will probably be ignored
As far as my personal experiences with AA fonts go, yeah they seem to
work fine, especially once you tweak your XftConfig. However, just the
fact that with AA turned on you cannot use any non-truetype fonts is
enough to trigger plenty of annoying bug reports ("where did all my
fonts go?"). This will be resolved in kde3.
--
Nathaniel W. Turner
Re: objprelink (Was Re: [kde] setting an /opt precedent)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 17 January 2002 23:06, Yven Johannes Leist wrote: > BTW this is sort of offtopic now, but what is the current state of > the objprelink kde and qt optimizations? Don't use objprelink, it's buggy. I'm on the KMail mailing list and there are too many backtraces with a bunch of 'eval.c' in them, meaning: objprelink has been used. All the developers do is say 'objprelink is buggy' and close the bug report. So it's really not a good idea to include it in official Debian packages which are supposed to be stable. Of course, an optimization _would_ be nice. - -- - -M - --- Magnus von Koeller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -- Georg-Westermann-Allee 76 / 38104 Braunschweig / Germany Phone: +49-531-2094886 Mobile: +49-179-4562940 lp1 on fire (One of the more obfuscated kernel messages) -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8R9DzUIvM6e6BgFARAuw2AJ9CbB/w6QKv6XBnO8Pgc+1lsrUROwCfRACE 9IIqriYyWD+sl6rR/dY+2uU= =FUtZ -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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Re: filesystem discussion (my 2 cents)
On Thursday 17 January 2002 21:24, Macolu wrote: > Le Jeudi 17 Janvier 2002 11:38, Maximilian Reiss a écrit : [...] > > > > Until the release of KDE calc could supply beta (KDE3 RC1) debs from an > > external apt source. (p.d.o). > > Here it could be considerable to use the --prefix=/opt/kde3 (optional > > package) as long as it stays external and then change the prefix to /usr > > if it gets close to release time, or from an apt source as replacement > > allready for the installed kde2, conflicting. > > I totally agree with you. > Unofficial/unstable versions of KDE can be imho considered to be add-ons, > and should go into /opt If kde3 _is_ packaged to go for instance in /opt/kde3 it's okay, but if no kde3 packages exist at all, it's IMHO a great disadvantage, since getting kde3 from cvs is quite time consuming and thus no kde3 packages drastically limit the number of people who are able to try and test it, which is a good thing. (The above of course only applies to unstable and testing) cheers, Yven -- Yven Leist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.leist.beldesign.de
Printing in KDE - How best to - Konq, inkjet
What's the best way currently to set KDE up for printing? Have you done this recently? Specifically: Recent Woody install. This will be primarily for printing web pages from Konq. using a recent parallel port Epson Inkjet printer which is supposed to be well supported for Linux: http://www.linuxprinting.org/suggested.html http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/i386/install Has section: 9: Next Steps and Where to Go From Here Which doesn't have any suggestions about printing. http://www.linuxdoc.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/os.html#OSPRINTING Points to an outdated howto, whose current version is here: http://www.linuxprinting.org http://www.linuxprinting.org/howto/ I glanced at that, and Printing Software by Grant Taylor, in Category Reviews - Saturday, September 15th 2001 00:00 EST at: http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/296/ (Aside: Among other things, this says: "The gimp-print project has produced a driver suite that drives most Epson Stylus and many other brands of color inkjet printers." So, do I need to install GNOME stuff to get that?) I searched the Debian KDE archive for last quarter and found articles like: Printing with CUPS 1.1.10 on KDE 2.1.2 http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2001/debian-kde-200110/msg00044.html So, that's on a specific package (CUPS). But, I didn't find anything about _how_ to determine _which_ printing sw to use. ** There is quite a bit to digest in the above links. I'm hoping someone here (you?) has digested that (& perhaps more) and will save me/us some time with a quick suggestion of the best [referencing: http://www.linuxprinting.org/howto/ & http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/296/ ] drivers spoolers user interfaces to use, and how to get them installed on a KDE system. So, specifically: 1) What packages should I apt-get, 2) How to install which drivers, 3) etc. [I'm new to doing printer setup on Linux. All help/suggestions appreciated. Thanks! :) ] __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/
quick question (shot in the dark)
im not sure if kde can do anything about this, but it doesnt hurt to ask. i have already asked on the Xfree mailing lists and the advice they gave me was that the driver needs to be coded better. situation: im using a KVM to switch between debian and windows, im running sid with the latest kde 2.X. my mouse is the micro$oft intellimouse explorer, X is setup fine using the correct /dev/ device and the right protocal. buttons are setup fine. problem: when i switch back to my debian box, my mouse movements are all scrambled, the mouse driver basically eats it. the fix is to switch to a console and then back again, i suppose this resets the driver. Now, can KDE reset the driver at all, or is this compleatly X and kde has no power to do this. this is just a frustrating problem, not vital but if someone has an answer it would be greatly appreciated. as a sidenote, when i switch to my win2k box, i get a sharp: 10-15 lines scrolldown, then everything is fine. i suppose it resets itself after that. just a shot in the dark to see if kde can control this, thanks John
Re: Fix for KDE source distributions
On Thursday 17 January 2002 7:09 pm, Achim Bohnet wrote:
>
> Unfortunately it does not a fix for Debian KDE:
>
> o using kdeconfig from Debian gives you
>/etc/kde2
> /usr/bin
> etc. But admins should install every non deb stuff
> below /usr/local.
If I understand you correctly, you're asking how to force it to ignore
kde-config (which is set up for the Debian KDE packages), and install to your
KDE CVS installation or whatever, to do this the line
./configure --disable-path-check --prefix=/usr/local/kde2
Might help. Unfortunately, this is a relatively obscure option, not listed
under ./configure --help (well.. it comes under --disable-FEATURE, but I
wouldn't expect you to know this was the name of the feature if you hadn't
hacked the code). I may therefore try and add it into the ./configure --help
output since it seems like a useful option.
I'm wondering if you mean you have KDE installed from Debian, but you want to
install you're third party app to /usr/local. AFAIK, this is not possible
(correct me if I'm wrong), on any system, be it debian or linux from scratch
;). Also, AFAIK, as a sysadmin, you are not obliged to use /usr/local, it's
just there and protected from use by external packagers in case you want to
install your own stuff and not have it messed around with.
> o problem with /etc/kde2 is not fixed. kde-config --install config
> 'always' returned /etc/kde2. Nevertheless it's not used during
> run time (see below). Therefore for the config entry in /etc/kderc
> is required and can not be used to define KDE stuff that's
> installed below /usr/local/. :(
...
> Here a demonstration of of the /etc/kde2 problem. I was too
> stupid/sleepy to figure out what goes wrong in kdestdirs.* code :(
>
> ds10(1) ~ > kde-config --install config
> /etc/kde2
> ds10(0) ~ > su - -c "mv /etc/kderc{,.save}"
> Password:
> ds10(0) ~ > kde-config --install config
> /etc/kde2> ds10(0) ~ > kde-config --path config
> /home/ach/.kde2/share/config/:/usr/share/config/
> ds10(0) ~ > su - -c "mv /etc/kderc{.save,}"
> Password:
> ds10(0) ~ > kde-config --path config
> /home/ach/.kde2/share/config/:/usr/share/config/:/etc/kde2/
> ds10(0) ~ >
>
> You see /usr/share/config is compiled into (kdestddir*)
> not /etc/kde2. And this is the reason why /etc/kderc
> is there at all.
This, I would hypothesize, is the reason that it doesn't actually seem to
matter if you use /usr/share/config for your third party apps, either
location seems to suit, but according to /usr/doc/kdebase/README.Debian,
/etc/kde2 is the correct path.
Again for installing to a different KDE location should be possible using the
--disable-path-search mentioned above.
I think my system is appropriate, since kde-config --install
*should* be working out to the best of it's abilities the correct location to
install to (that's what kde-config --help says anyway).
I'm not too sure if that answers your question, if I've missed something you
may have to clarify (sorry ;)
Regards,
James
Re: filesystem discussion (my 2 cents)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2002 11:38 schrieb Maximilian Reiss: > Ok, > > having both (kde2 and kde3) in debian the both time might not be > the best idea. > Disadvantages: > - quite some trouble regarding where the files should go .-) > - would waste lots of diskspace on the mirrors. > > - Is it really needed? KDE3 supplies improved version of all kde > core apps, and is normally stable on release date. > > So heres my suggestion: > KDE3 is kept out of debian as long as it is really released. (KDE3 > release, probably a little bit later to catch some hot cvs upstream > fixes .-) ). The KDE3 moves into debian, and replaces KDE2, at > least all the apps, that are allready ported to KDE3. > For the other apps the kde2 kdelibs and kdebase-libs (probably some > more) will stay in debian, als long as there are KDE2 apps not > ported to KDE3. Same for the -dev packages, since it should still > be possible to compile a KDE2 app and run it. > > This would cut the discussion above and would prevent a lot of > trouble. Also we would get a hug from the mirror maintainers. > > Until the release of KDE calc could supply beta (KDE3 RC1) debs > from an external apt source. (p.d.o). > Here it could be considerable to use the --prefix=/opt/kde3 > (optional package) as long as it stays external and then change the > prefix to /usr if it gets close to release time, or from an apt > source as replacement allready for the installed kde2, conflicting. I totaly agree with you in all points. Hendrik - -- PGP ID 21F0AC0265C92061 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8SABbIfCsAmXJIGERAqH6AJ92fue2/NqLnUxFA8WFzzZsmZmnNQCfVomt Hp6guc5JHXOPxG0BjMc0NLI= =9E8J -END PGP SIGNATURE-
kmix does not save settings
Hi, Everytime I log into KDE the settings of kmix are the default settings. Saving changed settings in kmix as the new default does *not* work. Did anybody have the same Problem? What could be the reason? -Marc -- +-O . . . o . . . O . . . o . . . O . . . ___ . . . O . . . o .-+ | Ein neuer Service von Links2Linux.de: / o\ RPMs for SuSE | | --> PackMan! <-- naeheres unter| __| and others| | http://packman.links2linux.de/ . . . O \__\ . . . O . . . O . |
KAdressBook problems
I'm using kadressbook (from kdebase 2.2.2-13) and I'm having Problems to import a list I just created and exported. Kadressbook just imports nothing after I selected the addressbook.csv file. Am I doing anything wrong or is this feature broken? Another question: Why does KDE have two adress managers (kadressbook and kab)? Is there any reason for this (e.g. do we really need two adressbook applications)? -- Nikolaus Regnat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GnuPG FingerPrint: ECC0 9FAC 3897 B630 ACF5 02F9 455E B1D1 D63F 3492
Re: quick question (shot in the dark)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is strictly X, sorry. On Thursday 17 January 2002 04:43 am, John Magrini wrote: > im not sure if kde can do anything about this, but it doesnt hurt to ask. > i have already asked on the Xfree mailing lists and the advice they gave me > was that the driver needs to be coded better. - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8SDmiEHLN/FXAbC0RAitgAKCDbLj6Kp9qG6CRoKcixeYKY6dxHwCeK/MT cBvniibeLFQyBtwiI3ghkO0= =vbWh -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Printing in KDE - How best to - Konq, inkjet
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 [I am writing this email in the mode of you also not being extremely familiar with how debian does things. There's no shame there, it's big and there's a lot to learn. If you already know some of this, I apologize.] On Friday 18 January 2002 03:04 am, tluxt wrote: > What's the best way currently to set KDE up for printing? > Have you done this recently? Yes. I own a Epson 777U, that I just recently got working. > Specifically: Recent Woody install. > This will be primarily for printing web pages from Konq. > using a recent parallel port Epson Inkjet printer > which is supposed to be well supported for Linux: > http://www.linuxprinting.org/suggested.html I'm running sid, so *shrug* my experiences may or may not apply. > http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/i386/install > Has section: > 9: Next Steps and Where to Go From Here > Which doesn't have any suggestions about printing. Maybe file a wishlist bug report? > I glanced at that, and > Printing Software by Grant Taylor, in Category Reviews - Saturday, > September 15th 2001 00:00 EST at: > http://freshmeat.net/articles/view/296/ > (Aside: Among other things, this says: > "The gimp-print project has produced a driver suite that drives most > Epson Stylus and many other brands of color inkjet printers." > So, do I need to install GNOME stuff to get that?) If you do a search for gimp-print (apt-cache search gimp-print), you'll see a package called "cupsys-driver-gimpprint". If you apt-cache show it, you see it depends on libgimpprint1 (among other cups-related stuff), which in turn depends soley on libc and zlib, both of which you should already have. So no, there are no big gnome or gtk dependencies. > I searched the Debian KDE archive for last quarter and found > articles like: Printing with CUPS 1.1.10 on KDE 2.1.2 > http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2001/debian-kde-200110/msg00044.html > So, that's on a specific package (CUPS). But, I didn't find anything > about _how_ to determine _which_ printing sw to use. I highly recommend cups. It just rocks, both for ease of setup and interoperability (I have my cups server printing for another linux box, a mac ibook, and a windows machine, all "transparently"). > So, specifically: > 1) What packages should I apt-get, > 2) How to install which drivers, > 3) etc. cupsys and cupsys-client should get you started. I actually don't use the gimp-print driver, but you can play around with it later if the quality isn't up to snuff with the default. Once you install them, edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. It is *very* well documented, but I can send you my file off-list if you need more help. You don't mention if you have a single workstation setup, or a server that will serve other computers, but either way is a breeze. cups is configured via the web, so once you edit the config, and restart cups (/etc/init.d/cupsys restart), point any webbrowser at http://server:631, and log on using the username and password that you set up. Then (and now I'm going off memory) you click on something like "manage printers", then "add printer", which will walk you through adding a printer. Once you get done filling out the stuff it asks (printer type, port number) you're done. Try printing the test page, and if that works, just use lp or qtcups (a seperate install) to happily print away. Oh, and if you are running kde 2.2.2, apt-get install kdelibs3-cups, goto the control center, find printing, and add your printer in there, and "walah", all kde apps can print to it. Hope that helps, and if you require more assistance, please feel free to ask on the mailing list (so that it's archived for the next person as willing as you were to actually do some research before asking questions. Believe me, that's much appreciated!). > [I'm new to doing printer setup on Linux. > All help/suggestions appreciated. Thanks! :) ] No problem - -- D.A.Bishop -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8SD2SEHLN/FXAbC0RApBhAJ40j6ooCZ5pkAuF6kT9iAeFoYMd/wCgpEYo XvNxn7Ro//LDMp6FMLs385M= =JO+X -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Problem with Flash plugin in Konqueror
"Jeppe Buk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Flash doesn't work in Konqueror on my Woody installation. Scenario: o I have the Flash plugin in ~/nsplugins o ~/nsplugins is the only directory for plugins in my Konqueror setup o Konqueror finds the plugin and lists it in the Plugins tab o When opening a page using Flash I get two Macromedia windows telling me to download Flash o I have installed the Blackdown JDK 1.3 and Java applets are working fine in Konqueror. Any help will be greatly appreciated -- mvh Jeppe Many web sites have a little script it runs when you connect to check the version of Flash you have installed against the version their site requires. If it detects an "older" version it will direct you to the upgrade site. Chances are this is what is happening to you. IF Konquer is listing a Flash plugin, then you probably have an outdated version instlled. I have seen this here within the past few months, and the problem was usually solved by upgrading Flash... somewhat. Flash in Konqueror is a bit "tempramental". It works on most sites I visit, BUT there are a few it just won't bring up. The "problem" is that the Linux/Unix versions of Flash tend to lag behind the Windows versions and the version "required" by the site just isn't available for Linux yet. The best you can do is accept the offer to install and make sure you have the latest version available for your system. "One Flash doesn't fit all" . Cheers, -Don Spoon-
Re: Problem with Flash plugin in Konqueror
Donald R. Spoon writes: "Jeppe Buk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Flash doesn't work in Konqueror on my Woody installation. Many web sites have a little script it runs when you connect to check the version of Flash you have installed against the version their site requires. [SNIP] I have solved the problem with the aid from another debian-kde reader. In "Settings -> File Associations -> Embedding -> Services Preference Order" the entry "Netscape plugin viewer" was missing. -- mvh Jeppe _ ...film, bøger og musik: http://www.kultursnak.dk/
Re: Printing in KDE - How best to - Konq, inkjet
On Friday 18 January 2002 05:04 am, tluxt wrote: > What's the best way currently to set KDE up for printing? > Have you done this recently? > This is basically what David just said, but all in a nice little HOWTO for Debian. http://mumford1.dyndns.org/~bs7452/linuxhelp/cups.html It's what I used, and I printed a document from Konq to my Stylus 740 just the other day. Works pretty well. I can print from Windows to the printer as well. If you aren't interested in the Samba stuff then you can just skip those steps. The first step, which lists dependancies, is the most important as it sets you up with everything you need installed. After that, you can just do the CUPS Web setup steps to configure the printer.
Re: kmix does not save settings
On Friday 18 January 2002 07:36 am, Marc Schiffbauer wrote: > Hi, > > Everytime I log into KDE the settings of kmix are the default > settings. Saving changed settings in kmix as the new default > does *not* work. > > Did anybody have the same Problem? What could be the reason? Doesn't surpise me. I had similar behavior several years ago. Haven't bothered since. Actually, xmms behaves in a similar fashion, but only after a reboot, so I suspect it has more to do with my OSS sound drivers. > -Marc
Re: quick question (shot in the dark)
John Magrini <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: im not sure if kde can do anything about this, but it doesnt hurt to ask. i have already asked on the Xfree mailing lists and the advice they gave me was that the driver needs to be coded better. situation: im using a KVM to switch between debian and windows, im running sid with the latest kde 2.X. my mouse is the micro$oft intellimouse explorer, X is setup fine using the correct /dev/ device and the right protocal. buttons are setup fine. problem: when i switch back to my debian box, my mouse movements are all scrambled, the mouse driver basically eats it. the fix is to switch to a console and then back again, i suppose this resets the driver. Now, can KDE reset the driver at all, or is this compleatly X and kde has no power to do this. this is just a frustrating problem, not vital but if someone has an answer it would be greatly appreciated. as a sidenote, when i switch to my win2k box, i get a sharp: 10-15 lines scrolldown, then everything is fine. i suppose it resets itself after that. just a shot in the dark to see if kde can control this, thanks John I don't think this is a "specific" KDE problem, nor does it have a solution. However, here are some ideas for you to consider. 1. Are you using GPM for the mouse driver in X? Your symptoms sound suspiciously like the message I get whenever the GPM program is re-started during an upgrade. If you are NOT, then try using it. If you are using it, try going directly to the device (psaux, ttyS0, etc). I am using GPM with a Microsoft Wheelmouse (Intellimouse) w/ "Intellieye" thorugh a USB port at the moment. 2. Are the computers networked? If so, you can use the VNC programs to connect your Linux box to the Winders box. You would need to install a VNC "server" on the Windows box and the vncviewer on your Linux box. I have done this here and it is like having a remote X terminal. You login and the Windows screen comes up on your Linux box and you can run all the Windows programs remotely. This would avoid having to use the KVM switch. You can read more about VNC at: http://www.uk.research.att.com/vnc/ Cheers, -Don Spoon-
Re: kmix does not save settings
On Friday 18 January 2002 4:46 pm, Jason Boxman wrote: > On Friday 18 January 2002 07:36 am, Marc Schiffbauer wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Everytime I log into KDE the settings of kmix are the default > > settings. Saving changed settings in kmix as the new default > > does *not* work. > > > > Did anybody have the same Problem? What could be the reason? > > Doesn't surpise me. I had similar behavior several years ago. Haven't > bothered since. Actually, xmms behaves in a similar fashion, but only > after a reboot, so I suspect it has more to do with my OSS sound drivers. > > > -Marc You could try apt-get installing aumix. It installs a little script that saves mixer settings on shutdown then restores them when you reboot. I know this isn't a fix for kmix but it should have the effects you desire. James
Re: kmix does not save settings
* James Thorniley schrieb am 18.01.02 um 18:46 Uhr: > On Friday 18 January 2002 4:46 pm, Jason Boxman wrote: > > On Friday 18 January 2002 07:36 am, Marc Schiffbauer wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Everytime I log into KDE the settings of kmix are the default > > > settings. Saving changed settings in kmix as the new default > > > does *not* work. > > > > > > Did anybody have the same Problem? What could be the reason? > > > > Doesn't surpise me. I had similar behavior several years ago. Haven't > > bothered since. Actually, xmms behaves in a similar fashion, but only > > after a reboot, so I suspect it has more to do with my OSS sound drivers. > > > > > -Marc > > You could try apt-get installing aumix. It installs a little script that > saves mixer settings on shutdown then restores them when you reboot. I know > this isn't a fix for kmix but it should have the effects you desire. > Thanks James, I'll try this. -Marc -- BUGS My programs never have bugs. They just develop random features. If you discover such a feature and you want it to be removed: please send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KAdressBook problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 18. Januar 2002 15:28 schrieb Regnat Nikolaus: > Another question: Why does KDE have two adress managers (kadressbook and > kab)? Is there any reason for this (e.g. do we really need two adressbook > applications)? They are only frontends to the same data. There is even a third one: abbrowser. However, the address management capabilities in KDE2 are...lets say... simple. Almost all features that would make its use worthwhile are left out. :-( And whoever got the idea to store the data file in a _hidden_ directory of the home dir (~/.kde/share/apps/kab) should get...oh well... You cannot even configure the used file anywhere but in source :-( So if you delete ~/.kde because you messed things up or simply by accident... Also, no grouping that would make email lists in kmail possible (even the old Netscape can do this!) or support for importing vCards (.vcf) or simply having the option to store the data as vCards in a chosen dir. Anybody knows if kab gets more useful in KDE3? Does anybody know why there is no "pipe to program" feature in the save dialog of KDE (or the equivalent in the load dialog)? Does anybody know _where_ code would have to be inserted to make this possible? HS - -- Mein GPG-Key ist auf meiner Homepage verfügbar: http://www.hendrik-sattler.de oder über pgp.net PingoS - Linux-User helfen Schulen: http://www.pingos.schulnetz.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8SI3vzvr6q9zCwcERAiYaAKCAAZQ+yAULWB8J4V+xKgRnmbQTmgCgo07j KIDK1qKhBllvs+HH5K7JTV8= =AARl -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KAdressBook problems
On Friday 18 January 2002 04:04 pm, Hendrik Sattler wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Am Freitag, 18. Januar 2002 15:28 schrieb Regnat Nikolaus: > > Another question: Why does KDE have two adress managers (kadressbook and > > kab)? Is there any reason for this (e.g. do we really need two adressbook > > applications)? > > They are only frontends to the same data. There is even a third one: > abbrowser. > However, the address management capabilities in KDE2 are...lets say... > simple. Almost all features that would make its use worthwhile are left > out. Can you give me some examples? I am in need of an address book and figured I'd use one of KDE's since I use KDE all day anyway. If any of these features render the address book critically broken, then it would be helpful to know up front so I don' waste time entering data I can't work with intelligently. Thanks. > :-( > > And whoever got the idea to store the data file in a _hidden_ directory of > the home dir (~/.kde/share/apps/kab) should get...oh well... That's unfortunate -- I'll have to keep that in mind, lest I accidently delete all my entries.
kghostview crashes
Can anyone help me out with the problem of kghostview crashing. I've just reinstalled everything to do with gs from woody but it keeps giving me a SIGSEGV and the backtrace shows that it's openFile() that's the problem. It's strange because gv works fine. Thanks fae any help, Jonathan Riddell
konqueror file manager & mount
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I always wondered why it is not possible to mount filesystems in konqueror file manager. I would be great if you could mount a filesystem with 2 clicks (e.g. right-click on the filesystem->mount). Currently you have to mount using the konsole or click an icon you've made. Would be great (IMHO) if this could be changed... - -- Nikolaus Regnat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> GnuPG FingerPrint: ECC0 9FAC 3897 B630 ACF5 02F9 455E B1D1 D63F 3492 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjxImQEACgkQRV6x0dY/NJJxIgCfUaz/uVNpSfsU5n8NPfhuXUpY ns8AnjLrHGI7Yl5pvtHavstaJf8rlIFz =ZfZ7 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: KAdressBook problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am Freitag, 18. Januar 2002 22:11 schrieb Jason Boxman: > > However, the address management capabilities in KDE2 are...lets say... > > simple. Almost all features that would make its use worthwhile are left > > out. > > Can you give me some examples? I am in need of an address book and figured > I'd use one of KDE's since I use KDE all day anyway. If any of these > features render the address book critically broken, then it would be > helpful to know up front so I don' waste time entering data I can't work > with intelligently. Another one to the other: you enter the birthday in kab but korganizer does not care at all.So why the entry? If you remember to look into every (!) entry, every day, you better remember the bithday itself. Kmail displays the vcf in emails really nice but it is not able to insert it into the kab database. You also cannot import vcf files, yo you have to copy it by hand :-( You can import KDE1 address books and ldif files but you cannot export them (one way only). Actually there is not even an export option (or 'save as') but in kaddressbook which only offers .csv (so it should have been called 'save as' instead). So kab is a dead end if you do not write a konvert app csv2otherformat. It does not know groups so there is only one big list. Multiple files are also not really supported and complicated to handle. It can only open one fil at a time. So, without opening kab multiple times and probably getting sync problems when two apps write to the same text file(!), you cannot get groups or any sane sorting. You get the point? abbrowser, kaddressbook and kab frontends could be merged to one app with differnt display types. One nice additional display type would be a formatted output like address formats common in countries. But hey, it has a search option, probably because you really need that for more than a few, non-grouped entries. And I do not really complain about this status of kab because I do not use it (hmm, or was it the other way round?). HS - -- Mein GPG-Key ist auf meiner Homepage verfügbar: http://www.hendrik-sattler.de oder über pgp.net PingoS - Linux-User helfen Schulen: http://www.pingos.schulnetz.org -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8SJkdzvr6q9zCwcERAlazAKDAlImYoc07jKXhd7rFx/USJ/wpGACgpRUe TWC3Xldz0Cs3M/zSRsuWOgE= =B0NH -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: kmix does not save settings
On Fri, Jan 18, 2002 at 05:46:54PM +, James Thorniley wrote: > On Friday 18 January 2002 4:46 pm, Jason Boxman wrote: > > On Friday 18 January 2002 07:36 am, Marc Schiffbauer wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > Everytime I log into KDE the settings of kmix are the default > > > settings. Saving changed settings in kmix as the new default > > > does *not* work. > > > > > > Did anybody have the same Problem? What could be the reason? > > > > Doesn't surpise me. I had similar behavior several years ago. Haven't > > bothered since. Actually, xmms behaves in a similar fashion, but only > > after a reboot, so I suspect it has more to do with my OSS sound drivers. > > > > > -Marc > > You could try apt-get installing aumix. It installs a little script that > saves mixer settings on shutdown then restores them when you reboot. I know > this isn't a fix for kmix but it should have the effects you desire. Or this: go into KDE Control Center, click Sound, then Mixer, then check "Load volumes on login." -- Stay fuzzy... save the world... choices! Eric Christopherson, a.k.a. Contrarian Conlanger Rakko ^_^
Re: KAdressBook problems
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi > Another one to the other: you enter the birthday in kab but > korganizer does not care at all.So why the entry? If you remember > to look into every (!) entry, every day, you better remember the > bithday itself. > Kmail displays the vcf in emails really nice but it is not able to > insert it into the kab database. > You also cannot import vcf files, yo you have to copy it by hand > :-( You can import KDE1 address books and ldif files but you cannot > export them (one way only). Actually there is not even an export > option .. > abbrowser, kaddressbook and kab frontends could be merged to one > app with differnt display types. One nice additional display type > would be a formatted output like address formats common in > countries. > > But hey, it has a search option, probably because you really need > that for more than a few, non-grouped entries. > And I do not really complain about this status of kab because I do > not use it (hmm, or was it the other way round?). There are realy some ugly shortcommings. I hope the KDE-PIM project will manage these problem. I didn't had the chance to try the KDE3-beta. But maybe someone who had a look at it could report the status? Thanks Hendrik - - -- PGP ID 21F0AC0265C92061 - -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8SLf7IfCsAmXJIGERAtQ7AJ9By9XeTuNovrI7IA+ju6osN8bswgCeMvTe AG1g/l7RrXoCKOT4oRyZUaI= =O6DU - -END PGP SIGNATURE- -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8SLgbIfCsAmXJIGERAm0uAJ90rA68qEUPynC0fsqd3lrsnQROmgCfZ+Hj 6Ql/42ZKEJprLSHGwrrirdQ= =3B25 -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: konqueror file manager & mount
Regnat Nikolaus wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I always wondered why it is not possible to mount filesystems in konqueror > file manager. I would be great if you could mount a filesystem with 2 clicks > (e.g. right-click on the filesystem->mount). > > Currently you have to mount using the konsole or click an icon you've made. > Would be great (IMHO) if this could be changed... > > - -- > Nikolaus Regnat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > GnuPG FingerPrint: ECC0 9FAC 3897 B630 ACF5 02F9 455E B1D1 D63F 3492 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org > > iEYEARECAAYFAjxImQEACgkQRV6x0dY/NJJxIgCfUaz/uVNpSfsU5n8NPfhuXUpY > ns8AnjLrHGI7Yl5pvtHavstaJf8rlIFz > =ZfZ7 > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] Use kdf (kdiskfree) to mount any partition listed in your fstab. Read the help file of kdf. jozien
Re: [kde] setting an /opt precedent
"Eray Ozkural (exa)" wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Thursday 17 January 2002 16:21, Daniel Stone wrote: > > You might note the discussion on debian-kde of late, where Eray is > > attempting to set a precedent by installing KDE3 into /opt/kde3. Let me > > first disclose my viewpoint: I think this idea sucks, as you can clearly > > see from my postings. > > > > The answer I got when I asked "Why isn't /opt used in Debian ?" has always > been "/opt violates Debian Policy". > > However on James's message, I read the section and saw that there is no such > thing in neither the policy nor FHS. I'm only saying that installing packages > in /opt doesn't seem to violate the FHS in any way. As I explained in my > messages, "/opt violates Debian Policy" seems to depend on a certain > assumption that "add-on" means "non-free software supplied by third party > commercial vendors" whereas in the text of the FHS there is no such > implication. On the contrary it says distributions can install software in > /opt, just not touch a few reserved subdirs of /opt. IMO the only possible meaning of "add-on" is that it is software that does not come with disctribution. Any software that comes with debian distribution is not "add-on" - otherwise everything would be "add-on" (well, there could be a section/pool/whatever called add-ons but it doesn't make much sense) third party software can go in /opt - but IMO that kind of software should _ALWAYS_ ask user where (s)he wants the software to be installed. in addition to that the purpose of /opt is clearly to have a place where user (admin) can install software that (s)he is responsible for and the system should not touch it (=screw it up) in ANY way. otherwise user needs another directory. > However, using /opt may not be a good path to follow for most free software. free or not free, nothing should go into /opt unless user specifically asks for it to go into /opt. The whole point of having /opt is to have a playground for local user (admin) that is never touched by system - why else would one have /opt? erik
Re: [kde] setting an /opt precedent
Frank Murphy wrote: > > On Thursday 17 January 2002 07:04 pm, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > > > > It might be nice to add this bit of policy to Debian Policy > > so that people do not start mucking around with /opt. > > This is a good idea. I understand and whole-heartedly agree with the > reasons behind Debian not mucking about with /opt, but looking at the > quoted parts of the FHS, it isn't clear that distributions may not > install packages into /opt. Adding it to Policy would clarify that. it is not explicitly said, however it says that distro cannot screw with what sysadmin installed there. so where would the kde go? would it dynamically create a not-yet existing directory? pretty insane. IMO it is sufficiently clearly implied that distro should not touch /opt, period. erik
Re: [kde] setting an /opt precedent
"Eray Ozkural (exa)" wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Jeff, > > On Thursday 17 January 2002 21:44, Jeff Licquia wrote: ... > > We cannot currently ensure that a package installing to /opt cannot > > overwrite admin-installed software there. > > > > Thanks for the explanation. That's a quite vague statement. How does one > modify or delete software ... without the assent of the local system > administrator? After all, it is the local system administrator who runs the > packaging commands. Theoretically, there isn't much difference between > running dpkg or rm. Moreover, if you consider the context of the above quote: there is a big difference, when you use rm you tell it specific file(s) to delete, when you use dpkg you do NOT have control over individual files. >Distributions may install software in /opt, but should not modify or >delete software installed by the local system administrator without the >assent of the local system administrator. > > It would seem to imply for instance if I have installed a package foo in > /opt/foo, the system must not overwrite files in /opt/foo without my > knowledge. However, this paragraph doesn't seem to be very consistent to me > since distributions can be said to provide the "assent of local system > administrator" in any case... It's a matter of interpretation. not really. it means that software must provide a way for sysadmin to specify where to install stuff if it plans to install anything into /opt. erik
Re: [kde] setting an /opt precedent
On Thursday 17 January 2002 21:01, Ian Eure wrote: > On Thursday 17 January 2002 11:37 am, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: > > > It should - but as of my current base-files, it does not. /opt should > > > be created as the FHS calls for it to be for third party software. KDE > > > is not third party software in Debian. > > > > So it seems you were the smart person who thought "add-on" in FHS > > necessarily meant "third party" although there is not the slightest > > implication of such a thing in FHS itself. > > You make an interesting point - the FHS very clearly states: "Distributions > may install software in /opt..." It also calls the restrictions placed on > distributions using /opt "minor." > > I suppose the closest thing Debian has to add-on software would be packages > with priority optional or extra. > > I agree that installing KDE into /opt sucks, and (technical implementation > problems aside) while it does not violate the FHS, it violates my sense of > aesthetics. I can only agree wholeheartedly. I think the discussion could be more productive if people admit that putting things in /opt indeed does not violate the FHS, but that one cannot really want to put things there nonetheless, and then try to solve the problems that we currently have (namespace being clutterd in /usr/share, kde2 and kde3 not being installable separately and the like) which _can_ be solved in /usr as well. cheers, Yven -- Yven Leist - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.leist.beldesign.de
Re: [kde] setting an /opt precedent
> The common view, all apps use, users and admins see, > is the filesystem. That's why the 'subtree' approach sucks. > Everyone sees this loosely coupled stuff lying around > but what he/she really wants is a tidy and well organized > subtree '/'. > > Yes it sucks. But until and unless we have the kinds of name space management pioneered by Plan 9 (where you can explictly compose your name space out of subtrees on a per process basis), we're stuck. This may appear in Linux 2.5: patches do exist to support it, that were developed in 2.3 by Al Viro. (look at the Union Mount stuff, for more information on part of it). If I'm not mistaken, he's getting the preparatory work into 2.5 now (the 2.3 implementation could not work on NFS, due to no kernel data structure to hang authentication information off of). - Jim -- Jim Gettys Cambridge Research Laboratory Compaq Computer Corporation [EMAIL PROTECTED]
