Konsole keys problem

2001-10-01 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Hi,

the home and end keys in konsole do not work anymore (I tried every keyboard 
setting there). Strange is that when I ssh to a host with X3.3.6 they work, 
on a host with X4.1 they don't.
Bug??? Compilation problem???

Hendrik

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"No Text!" and broken konq-plugins

2001-10-01 Thread Giles Constant
Hi there,

I did an apt upgrade recently, and there's two problems..

firstly, konqueror keeps crashing on even simple pages like slashdot
unless I remove the "konq-plugins"  package.

Secondly, kmail and kview and probably a few other apps have some of their
menus replaced with the heading "No Text!" and their contents removed.  In
particular, the settings menu for kmail is broken which is making it
somewhat difficult to add mailboxes :-)

I tried recompiling kmail from the source package, but this didn't help,
so this leads me to believe there's a problem in kdelibs3 or a locale
package, but as to which one, I don't know..

I can send a screenshot if this isn't clear.

thanks,

Giles

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Strange System Use

2001-10-01 Thread Robert Tilley
Following an apt-get system update last night, which the maintainer of 
Konqueror said would cure the glibc6 problems, everything seemed to be good.

This morning, when I woke my Debian box, activity was sluggish and gkrellm 
showed my CPU usage to be 100%.

Issuing a "top" revealed that a process called htdig was consuming 30+% of 
system resources.  The problem persisted as I visited bugs.kde.org, with 
the htmerge and sort processes also ranking #1 and #2 in top system CPU use.

Eventually (now in fact as I type), things have settled back to normal.  I 
had feared I might have to log out and then back in, or (gods no!) reboot.

This may be a side-effect of sleep-mode following the latest updates.

I wanted to post this so that any developers trolling the list might learn 
of this phenomena.
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Re: Strange System Use

2001-10-01 Thread Danie Roux
On Mon, Oct 01, 2001 at 08:10:18AM -0400, Robert Tilley wrote:
> This morning, when I woke my Debian box, activity was sluggish and gkrellm 
> showed my CPU usage to be 100%.
> 
> Issuing a "top" revealed that a process called htdig was consuming 30+% of 
> system resources.  The problem persisted as I visited bugs.kde.org, with 
> the htmerge and sort processes also ranking #1 and #2 in top system CPU use.

Nothing weird happened, htdig was indexing all your html files to make
it possible to search in them. This happens in a cron job, usually late
at night when you should be in bed :-)

I moved it to 6:25, since it's rather frustrating if updatedb begins to
run while I'm compiling!

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Re: Strange System Use

2001-10-01 Thread Giles Constant
On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Danie Roux wrote:

> I moved it to 6:25, since it's rather frustrating if updatedb begins to
> run while I'm compiling!

I do like the way that all crontab writers just go "better set it off at
midnight then" under the assumption that nothing else is going to be
running at the time, so on the dot of midnight there's suddenly this
flurry of activity that sparks off which carries on 5 times longer than it
should due to all the CPU/disk contention from simultaneous
backup/logrotation/indexing/remounting/etc :-)

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Re: "No Text!" and broken konq-plugins

2001-10-01 Thread Giles Constant
On Mon, 1 Oct 2001, Ben Burton wrote:

>
> > unless I remove the "konq-plugins"  package.
>
> Downgrade your libc6 (and locales and libc6-dev if you have them

ta :-)

> Don't know about the menu text.

didn't help (still back to using pine.. :-))

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Re: Konsole keys problem

2001-10-01 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag, 1. Oktober 2001 16:20 schrieb Achim Bohnet:
> On Monday 01 October 2001 09:29, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > the home and end keys in konsole do not work anymore (I tried every
> > keyboard setting there). Strange is that when I ssh to a host with X3.3.6
> > they work, on a host with X4.1 they don't.
> > Bug??? Compilation problem???
>
> Can you give an example what does not work anymore?
>
> What's the output of cat for 3.3.6 and 4.1?

4.1 (local), the same on the remote X3.3.6 host:
 output: ^[[1~
 output: ^[[4~
(local):
linux:/usr/share/apps/konsole# egrep Home\|End default.Keytab
key Home  -Shift   : "\E[1~"
key End   -Shift   : "\E[4~"
remote has nothing like such a file.

all such files on local:
linux:/usr/share/apps/konsole# egrep Home\|End *eytab
default.Keytab:key Home  -Shift   : "\E[1~"
default.Keytab:key End   -Shift   : "\E[4~"
linux.keytab:key Home   : "\E[1~"
linux.keytab:key End: "\E[4~"
vt100.keytab:key Home   : "\E[H"
vt100.keytab:key End: "\E[F"
vt420pc.keytab:key Home   : "\E[H"
vt420pc.keytab:key End: "\E[F"
x11r5.keytab:key Home   : "\E[1~"
x11r5.keytab:key End: "\E[4~"

On all aother settings like vt100 or vt420, I do not get any result.
The terminal type is set to "xterm" by Konsole and the matching terminfo file 
is present.

> ds10(0) /usr/share/apps/konsole > cat
> ^[[H^[[F
>
> I should correspond to what's written in the keytab file you use:

It does but it has no effect on the functioning.

> Maybe the terminfo/cap config has changed?  Does Home/End work with
> e.g., xterm?  What's the output of cat in a xterm?

There is no problem with the keys in xterm or any other KDE2.2 program, only 
Konsole seems to be affected :-/
My X-Keyboard is defined like this:
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier  "Keyboard0"
Driver  "keyboard"
Option  "XkbModel" "microsoft"
Option  "XkbLayout" "de"
EndSection
This is exactly the same as in KDE2.1 and X4.0.3 (I did not change both at 
the same time, so it's also not the combination with the X version. 
KDE2.1->2.2 changed last.)

Actually it is funny because before the change to 2.2, it work locally but 
not on remote hosts (with debian 2.2 and old xlibs). I wonder why there were 
reasons to change the whole X keyboard codes thingie. It seems that X 
developers love the change and incompatibility :-/
And why, actually, does need X another keyboard driver than the 
console/kernel??? Are there so many differnent ways to read keyboard input???
This is really confusing (and probably very OT).

HS

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Re: "No Text!" and broken konq-plugins

2001-10-01 Thread Ben Burton

> firstly, konqueror keeps crashing on even simple pages like slashdot
> unless I remove the "konq-plugins"  package.

Downgrade your libc6 (and locales and libc6-dev if you have them
installed) from 2.2.4-2 to 2.2.4-1 (you can find this on the FTP servers
under the testing distribution instead of unstable).  This should fix the
konqueror crashes.

Don't know about the menu text.

Ben.

k




Re: Konsole keys problem

2001-10-01 Thread Achim Bohnet
On Monday 01 October 2001 18:24, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> Am Montag, 1. Oktober 2001 16:20 schrieb Achim Bohnet:
> > On Monday 01 October 2001 09:29, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > the home and end keys in konsole do not work anymore (I tried every
> > > keyboard setting there). Strange is that when I ssh to a host with X3.3.6
> > > they work, on a host with X4.1 they don't.
> > > Bug??? Compilation problem???
> >
> > Can you give an example what does not work anymore?
> >
> > What's the output of cat for 3.3.6 and 4.1?
> 
> 4.1 (local), the same on the remote X3.3.6 host:
>  output: ^[[1~
>  output: ^[[4~

Very strange!  All a terminal application 'sees' are the
printable chars and escape sequences that konsole generated.
And for home/end konsole you wrote that the same escape sequence
are the same. Confused!

> (local):
> linux:/usr/share/apps/konsole# egrep Home\|End default.Keytab
> key Home  -Shift   : "\E[1~"
> key End   -Shift   : "\E[4~"
> remote has nothing like such a file.

default.Keytab the default is compiled into konsole that there
is no default.Keytab is no problem.

> all such files on local:
> linux:/usr/share/apps/konsole# egrep Home\|End *eytab
> default.Keytab:key Home  -Shift   : "\E[1~"
> default.Keytab:key End   -Shift   : "\E[4~"
> linux.keytab:key Home   : "\E[1~"
> linux.keytab:key End: "\E[4~"
> vt100.keytab:key Home   : "\E[H"
> vt100.keytab:key End: "\E[F"
> vt420pc.keytab:key Home   : "\E[H"
> vt420pc.keytab:key End: "\E[F"
> x11r5.keytab:key Home   : "\E[1~"
> x11r5.keytab:key End: "\E[4~"
> 
> On all aother settings like vt100 or vt420, I do not get any result.
> The terminal type is set to "xterm" by Konsole and the matching terminfo file 
> is present.
> 
> > ds10(0) /usr/share/apps/konsole > cat
> > ^[[H^[[F
> >
> > I should correspond to what's written in the keytab file you use:
> 
> It does but it has no effect on the functioning.

Nevertheless it proves that it it not bug in the konsole code,
just a misconfiguratin somewhere ;)
> 
> > Maybe the terminfo/cap config has changed?  Does Home/End work with
> > e.g., xterm?  What's the output of cat in a xterm?
> 
> There is no problem with the keys in xterm or any other KDE2.2 program, only 
> Konsole seems to be affected :-/
> My X-Keyboard is defined like this:
> Section "InputDevice"
> Identifier  "Keyboard0"
> Driver  "keyboard"
> Option  "XkbModel" "microsoft"
> Option  "XkbLayout" "de"
> EndSection
> This is exactly the same as in KDE2.1 and X4.0.3 (I did not change both at 
> the same time, so it's also not the combination with the X version. 
> KDE2.1->2.2 changed last.)

I miss the most important info: output of cat in the xterm.
Replacing -, - sequences that xterm emits in your favorite *keytab
should fix your Home/End Key problem you have with konsole.

If this does not help, please give an example so I can try here. I'm using
testing+XF 4.1+KDE2.2.1 and have access to a remotehost (no Xserver) with
stable+XF3.3.6+KDE2.1.[12].  

Achim
> Actually it is funny because before the change to 2.2, it work locally but 
> not on remote hosts (with debian 2.2 and old xlibs). I wonder why there were 
> reasons to change the whole X keyboard codes thingie. It seems that X 
> developers love the change and incompatibility :-/
> And why, actually, does need X another keyboard driver than the 
> console/kernel??? Are there so many differnent ways to read keyboard input???
> This is really confusing (and probably very OT).
> 
> HS




Re: Strange System Use

2001-10-01 Thread Ben Burton

> Issuing a "top" revealed that a process called htdig was consuming
> 30+% of system resources.

If you want to stop htdig from indexing your html pages, edit
/etc/htdig/htdig.conf and comment out the line that says:

start_url: http://localhost/

Ben.




-fn option of konsole

2001-10-01 Thread Frank Mehnert
Hi,

how can I use the -fn option of konsole? I want to start konsole with
a different font than saved in .kde/share/config/konsolerc.

Frank
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Re: Konsole keys problem

2001-10-01 Thread Achim Bohnet
On Monday 01 October 2001 09:29, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> the home and end keys in konsole do not work anymore (I tried every keyboard 
> setting there). Strange is that when I ssh to a host with X3.3.6 they work, 
> on a host with X4.1 they don't.
> Bug??? Compilation problem???

Can you give an example what does not work anymore?

What's the output of cat for 3.3.6 and 4.1?

ds10(0) /usr/share/apps/konsole > cat
^[[H^[[F

I should correspond to what's written in the keytab file you use:

ds10(0) /usr/share/apps/konsole > egrep Home\|End vt100.keytab
key Home   : "\E[H"
key End: "\E[F"

Maybe the terminfo/cap config has changed?  Does Home/End work with
e.g., xterm?  What's the output of cat in a xterm?

Achim
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Re: Konsole keys problem

2001-10-01 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag, 1. Oktober 2001 20:38 schrieb Achim Bohnet:
> On Monday 01 October 2001 18:24, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> > 4.1 (local), the same on the remote X3.3.6 host:
> >  output: ^[[1~
> >  output: ^[[4~
>
> Very strange!  All a terminal application 'sees' are the
> printable chars and escape sequences that konsole generated.
> And for home/end konsole you wrote that the same escape sequence
> are the same. Confused!

Me, too! The strange thing is that only Konsole does this.

> > (local):
> > linux:/usr/share/apps/konsole# egrep Home\|End default.Keytab
> > key Home  -Shift   : "\E[1~"
> > key End   -Shift   : "\E[4~"
> > remote has nothing like such a file.
>
> default.Keytab the default is compiled into konsole that there
> is no default.Keytab is no problem.

with remote, I meant a host I log into by using ssh

> Nevertheless it proves that it it not bug in the konsole code,
> just a misconfiguratin somewhere ;)

it's not a bug, it's a feature? ;->

> I miss the most important info: output of cat in the
> xterm. Replacing -, - sequences that xterm emits in your
> favorite *keytab should fix your Home/End Key problem you have with
> konsole.

in xterm:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat
^[[H^[[F

So the ~ is missing there, or to better say, it is too much in konsole's 
keytab file.
But how do I change it? Every chang to default.Keytab seem to be ignored.
I had to copy it to my local .kde dir :-/ with now having an extra entry.
Changing \E[4~ to \E[H did not help! MC now does not print 4~ anymore, 
instead it prints H
Same for the  key.
Frustrating.

By the way, how do I enable the nodeadkeys Option in X4's config file?
The man page cannot be called as that in X4.

HS

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Re: objprelink and lintian errors

2001-10-01 Thread G . L . `Griz' Inabnit
On Sunday 16 September 2001 09:15, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:

> > With now having kde starting MUCH slower. Great work.
>
> What an asshole you are I swear.  I work my ass off to provide the proper
> and most stable/secure KDE environment for Debian and you start being a
> prick. Screw you!  You should first go off and learn some manners, then go
> off and learn some programming skills so that you would first learn what
> your talking about before you start being a dick.
>
> Damn, this is why I'm spending more time away from the computer these days.
>
> Ivan

BRAVO ZULU to Ivan! Again! (for you non-military that means DAMN FINE 
WORK!)

Damnit, people, wake the hell up!! This man is doing this for US!!! Not 
himself! 

"HE" knows how to compile and package all these apps. Do you?
"HE" spends untold hours/days going thru bug reports and correcting stuff for 
us. Do You?
"HE" doesn't get any monitary compensation for these hours of work. Do you?
"HE" is just doing this outta the kindness of his heart and because he 
cares!! Do you?

So, when people like the original poster do what they do to him, I see 
us 
one step closer to having NO-ONE MAINTAINING KDE FOR DEBIAN!

Get your head out people!! If you don't have a full grasp on a 
situtaion, 
please don't jump to conclusions and make matters worse. That is what this 
news-group is for. Asking question, getting answers, learning. If you're 
having a bad day, take it out on something inanimate. Not a person (even 
though he/she can't reach you to slap you down as you deserve).

Ivan, the offer still stands. Dinner of yer choice, at the restuarant 
of yer 
choice. Central Oregon doesn't offer a lot, but it's open ended, until I'm 
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Re: Konsole keys problem

2001-10-01 Thread Achim Bohnet
On Monday 01 October 2001 09:29, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> Hi,

Let's start a fresh thread ;)
 
> the home and end keys in konsole do not work anymore (I tried every keyboard 
> setting there). Strange is that when I ssh to a host with X3.3.6 they work, 
> on a host with X4.1 they don't.
> Bug??? Compilation problem???

No, just a configuration mess!  Basicly there are 2 different kind of
escape sequences:

linux.keytab:key Home   : "\E[1~"
linux.keytab:key End: "\E[4~"
vt100.keytab:key Home   : "\E[H"
vt100.keytab:key End: "\E[F"

xterm in 3.3.6 used the linux bindings as default (see /etc/X11/Xresources/xterm
in unstable)  Try Alt-F1 and cat.

In 4.* xterm changed looks like it was deceided to be more 'vt100 emulation'.

To enhance confusion, konsoles default.Keytab despite called 'xterm (Xfree 
4.x.x)'
still use 3.3.6 binding -> break home/end in mc (I've a real (well, real debian)
xterm.keytab but upstream did not comment on it).

Working on testing with X 4.1 using konsoles vt100 bindings mc works locally but
ssh to stable with X 3.3.6 -> mc ignores Home/End.

Switching to linux bindings breaks Home/End in mc on testing but slogin to
stable and run mc you have working Home/End.

So two 'solutions': Change keyboard settings in konsole depending if you work
on stable or unstable. Or hack a keytab file and and e.g.,  Key Home+Control
and Key End+Control to emit the second type of Home-End escape sequence.

Achim
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Error executing make xconfig in debian Sid 01/10/01 with kde2

2001-10-01 Thread Pere Castañer
I sent this message to debian laptop but perhaps my problem is in kde2 
what you think?

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: Error executing make xconfig in debian Sid 01/10/01
Date: Tue, 2 Oct 2001 00:25:00 +
From: Pere Castañer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: debian-laptop@lists.debian.org

Hi debian users,

recently I adquired a laptop and I put the debian in it, all seems going
correctly but I have some errors that I haven't seen before executing make
xconfig.

The log is here:
--
debian:~# cd /usr/src/linux
debian:/usr/src/linux# make xconfig
rm -f include/asm
( cd include ; ln -sf asm-i386 asm)
make -C scripts kconfig.tk
make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts'
cat header.tk >> ./kconfig.tk
./tkparse < ../arch/i386/config.in >> kconfig.tk
echo "set defaults \"arch/i386/defconfig\"" >> kconfig.tk
echo "set ARCH \"i386\"" >> kconfig.tk
cat tail.tk >> kconfig.tk
chmod 755 kconfig.tk
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux/scripts'
wish -f scripts/kconfig.tk
Application initialization failed: unknown color name "Black"
Error in startup script: can't invoke "button" command:  application has been
destroyed
while executing
"button .ref"
(file "scripts/kconfig.tk" line 51)
make: *** [xconfig] Error 1
debian:/usr/src/linux#

I tried to find it in mailing list archive but only i found a problem
relationated on Xauthority but is not the same problem and the solution to do
xauth merge $user/.Xauthority don't solve thisCan someone help me to run
Xconfig well ?? (running menuconfig is not a solution...)

I use Xfree4.0a patched by the way on www.sis.com for getting kde2.2.1 on a
1024x768 24 depht.
kernel 2.4.5 and trying to compile 2.4.10.

All the list of the debs I have installed on my laptop is in DPKGLIST
attached, and the specs of my laptop here:
---
Ahtec 2200 series Pentium-III Coppermine at 1000Mhz
512Mb RAM at 133
20gb Fujitsu hd
14,4 " TFT XGA 1024x768
Motherboard SiS integrated 630 Chip
Ethernet SiS900
Sound Sis7018
64 Mb video Accelerated sis630 Shared Memory
Pcmcia Texas Instruments cardbus 32b
Firewire port
1 IR port
2 usb ports
1 S-VIDEO out
1 vga out
Toshiba DVD 8x
1 floppy
-

Thanks for your time and effort

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Re: Konsole keys problem

2001-10-01 Thread Hendrik Sattler
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Am Dienstag, 2. Oktober 2001 00:14 schrieb Achim Bohnet:
> On Monday 01 October 2001 09:29, Hendrik Sattler wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> Let's start a fresh thread ;)
>
> > the home and end keys in konsole do not work anymore (I tried every
> > keyboard setting there). Strange is that when I ssh to a host with X3.3.6
> > they work, on a host with X4.1 they don't.
> > Bug??? Compilation problem???
>
> No, just a configuration mess!  Basicly there are 2 different kind of
> escape sequences:
>
> linux.keytab:key Home   : "\E[1~"
> linux.keytab:key End: "\E[4~"
> vt100.keytab:key Home   : "\E[H"
> vt100.keytab:key End: "\E[F"
>
> xterm in 3.3.6 used the linux bindings as default (see
> /etc/X11/Xresources/xterm in unstable)  Try Alt-F1 and

this file only exists in stable (and xterm from 3.3.6)

> To enhance confusion, konsoles default.Keytab despite called 'xterm (Xfree
> 4.x.x)' still use 3.3.6 binding -> break home/end in mc (I've a real (well,
> real debian) xterm.keytab but upstream did not comment on it).

So this has to be fixed upstream!?

> Working on testing with X 4.1 using konsoles vt100 bindings mc works
> locally but ssh to stable with X 3.3.6 -> mc ignores Home/End.

Not over here but I use Woody mainly, only KDE2.2 small other things are from 
unstable. But neither "\E[H" nor "\E[1~" works locally, although only the 
latter works on a remote Potato.
Maybe there is one file that should be from unstable instead of testing. I 
won't migrate to complete unstable dist just because of two keys in konsole.
Thanks for the good explanation, though :-)

I found a working thing for my konsole, though:
in .bashrc: export TERM=linux
sets it to "linux" instead of "xterm".
but this makes mc look veeery ugly and some other things do not work anymore.
Maybe one magic package has the wrong version.

xterm and Eterm are not working 100%, too. Alt-s for jumping through file 
listing does not work there, neither does the mouse *grmpf* So I can decide 
between Alt-s + mouse and Home + End. This is hard, really.
It seems that mc is the ultimate test for X terminal emulations.

The best way seems to be to switch to a real VC: just like a wonder, 
everything there works.

> Switching to linux bindings breaks Home/End in mc on testing but slogin to
> stable and run mc you have working Home/End.

> So two 'solutions': Change keyboard settings in konsole depending if you
> work on stable or unstable. Or hack a keytab file and and e.g.,  Key
> Home+Control and Key End+Control to emit the second type of Home-End escape
> sequence.

My only way, well, see above.

HS

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