Replacement for kde.tdyc.com?

2001-06-07 Thread Norbert Nemec
Hi there,

I remember somebody talking of a replacement for kde.tdyc.com coming up soon. 
What is the current state? Where can i find a fairly recent mirror for the 
meantime?

Ciao,
Nobbi

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Re: kde 2.2 deps for unstable ?

2001-06-07 Thread Emil Styrke
Malte Cornils wrote:
"Ivan E. Moore II" wrote:
what deps are you missing?
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 06:04:42PM +0200, Philipp Schmid wrote:
How long do we have to wait for them?
or can i get them from a dep source ?
I think he was speaking of debian packages (debs). Getting them from
experimental is probably something most people are not accustomed to
(including me :-)). Since other packages (like Adrian Bunk's "kernel
2.4 for potato" packages) are put up on people.debian.org and
"announced" as an apt line, would it be inconvenient for you to put
them up on people.debian.org instead of (or in combination with)
experimental? If it means more work for you, please don't; I'd
rather see that go into maintaining the high package quality than
pleasing the impatient crowd. :)
I know, you'll probably tell me to learn using experimental and in
fact, this is probably correct :-)
Let me just ask a quick question here.. what the heck is "experimental"? 
Tried substituting it for unstable in my sources.list, but it didn't 
work.. I managed to get the 2.2 debs manually from the pool directory on 
the ftp, and now i wonder, is this what you mean by "using experimental" 
or is there an easier way?

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I'm ignorming mails about kde.debian.net/tdyc.com

2001-06-07 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
I'm getting tired of

"what's going on with kde.debian.net?"
"when's it coming back"
"hey..did you kow the server is back online now?"
"what's going on with the server?"
"what about rsync"

the server has been up for several days now and with the exception of a 
few dns issues I'm still working on has been fully functional for those days.
rsync has been up and running the entire time.

I will continue to hit delete on any question that comes directly to my
email box.  I'm really getting tired of having to answer questions multiple
times and having to hold everyone's hands through this.

  stuff happens.

  the box died

  a new one appeared

  dns is a pain at times

  did you even bother to try rsync/ftp/http?

  do you read this list..probably not and right now you think I"m ignoring you.



this is not aimed at everyone...in fact it's aimed at such a small percentage
it's pathetic.  I just don't have time to answer every user of kde.debian.net
individually.

/me grumbles some more. 

ok...I feel better...I need to go break some more stuff now

Ivan

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Re: I'm ignorming mails about kde.debian.net/tdyc.com

2001-06-07 Thread G. L. `Griz' Inabnit
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On Thursday 07 June 2001 16:15, Ivan E. Moore II 's fingers did this all over
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[snip]

> /me grumbles some more.
>
> ok...I feel better...I need to go break some more stuff now

Hey Ivan!!
I got a couple of old ComPukes and PackratBells here yer welcome to come
over and just ENJOY the hell out of with a hammer!! :--
I'll even load Windon't on 'em for ya!!


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Re: kde 2.2 deps for unstable ?

2001-06-07 Thread Malte Cornils
"Ivan E. Moore II" wrote:
> what deps are you missing?
> On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 06:04:42PM +0200, Philipp Schmid wrote:
> > How long do we have to wait for them?
> > or can i get them from a dep source ?

I think he was speaking of debian packages (debs). Getting them from
experimental is probably something most people are not accustomed to
(including me :-)). Since other packages (like Adrian Bunk's "kernel
2.4 for potato" packages) are put up on people.debian.org and
"announced" as an apt line, would it be inconvenient for you to put
them up on people.debian.org instead of (or in combination with)
experimental? If it means more work for you, please don't; I'd
rather see that go into maintaining the high package quality than
pleasing the impatient crowd. :)

I know, you'll probably tell me to learn using experimental and in
fact, this is probably correct :-)

-Malte #8-)




Re: kde 2.2 deps for unstable ?

2001-06-07 Thread Ben Burton

> what deps are you missing?

s/deps/debs/ is my guess.

b.

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Re: I'm ignorming mails about kde.debian.net/tdyc.com

2001-06-07 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 05:14:13PM -0700, G. L. `Griz' Inabnit wrote:
> On Thursday 07 June 2001 16:15, Ivan E. Moore II 's fingers did this all over
> the keyboard!! :
> 
> [snip]
> 
> > /me grumbles some more.
> >
> > ok...I feel better...I need to go break some more stuff now
> 
> Hey Ivan!!
>   I got a couple of old ComPukes and PackratBells here yer welcome to come
> over and just ENJOY the hell out of with a hammer!! :--
>   I'll even load Windon't on 'em for ya!!


hahahaI think I'm going AOL skeet shooting tomorrow.


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Re: kde 2.2 deps for unstable ?

2001-06-07 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
what deps are you missing?

Ivan

On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 06:04:42PM +0200, Philipp Schmid wrote:
> How long do we have to wait for them?
> or can i get them from a dep source ?
> 
> greets philipp
> 
> 
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Re: configure: error: Qt (>= 1.42 and < 2.0)

2001-06-07 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 07:39:10PM -0500, Bud Rogers wrote:
> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= 1.42 and < 2.0) (libraries) not 
> found. Please check your installation! 
> 
> Sometimes I get this error when I try to configure a KDE package on my potato 
> system.  I have Qt 2.3.0 and 1.45 installed.  
> 
> twocups:~# dpkg -l 'libqt*' | grep ^ii
> ii  libqt-dev  2.3.0-final-0. Qt GUI development headers, static libraries
> ii  libqt1g1.45-3 Shared Library used by applications linked w
> ii  libqt2 2.3.0-final-0. Qt GUI Library (runtime version).
> ii  libqt2.2   2.3.0-final-0. Qt GUI Library (Migration package).
> 
> I've tried configure --with-qt-libraries.  No joy. What am I missing?

you don't have the qt1 -dev package installed... configure is looking
for 1.4.2 or later but not qt2 and since you have the qt2 -dev package
installed and not the qt1 it's failing.

Ivan

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starting kde2

2001-06-07 Thread Bud Rogers
My last update/upgrade of my potato system broke KDE2 startup, both from kdm 
and from the command line.  I manually made a couple of links in 
/etc/alternatives to get it working.  What I have now is 

twocups:/etc/alternatives# ls -l x-*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   13 May 27 17:33 x-session-manager -> 
/usr/bin/kde2
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   16 May 27 17:32 x-terminal-emulator 
-> /usr/bin/konsole
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root   17 May 30 00:02 x-window-manager -> 
/usr/bin/startkde

Kdm  logins work, startx works, but a lot of the fonts are large and blocky.  
I'm thinking my fix isn't quite right.  How should I start kd2 the right way?


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Sound server not initialising

2001-06-07 Thread Aquarius
The KDE sound server doesn't seem to initialise when I boot my machine.
I don't get any sound from KDE at all (or, indeed, from anything else).
I've got "Sound I/O method" set to "Open Sound System". If I then go
into the Sound Server config and explicitly set it to "Open Sound
System" again (i.e., change the dropdown to something else, then back
to "Open Sound System") and Apply, I get a dialog box about restarting
the sound server -- saying "yes" works, but it then blocks other
programs from using the soundcard (XMMS says that it can't open the
audio). I normally have to randomly play with the Sound Server settings
a bit to get it to work, but unfortunately I don't know how I get it
working. I appreciate that this is not a lot to go on, but does anyone
have any suggestions?

Aq.

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Re: apt-get upgrade to KDE 2.1.1 failed for potato-ppc

2001-06-07 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 11:29:08PM -0500, Tim Fairbank wrote:
> I have a stable Debian 2.2r3 system with KDE 1.1.2
> installed. When I attempted to use the packages from
> kde.debian.net to upgrade to KDE 2.1.1, the upgrade failed.
>  
> The issue appears to be a dependency on libmng1, which does
> not exist in potato. What's worse, the version of
> libmng1 in woody depends on libc6 >= 2.2.2-2, so I
> can't just build from source and install by hand.
> I would need to upgrade the whole system...which I'm
> resisting, since it's running perfectly now.
> 
> Here are the details:
> 
> 
> /home/tim# apt-get upgrade
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> The following packages have been kept back
>   kdebase kdevelop korganizer
> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
>
> /home/tim# apt-get install kdebase
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> or been moved out of Incoming.
>
> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
> that package should be filed.
> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
>
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   kdebase: Depends: kdelibs3 (>= 4:2.1.2-0) but it is not going to be
> installed
>Depends: libmng1 (>= 1.0.0-0) but it is not installable
>Depends: libqt2 (>= 2:2.3.0-final-0) or
> libqt2-gl (>= 2:2.3.0-final-0) but it is not going to be
> installed
>Depends: kdebase-libs (>= 4:2.1.1.0-0.potato3) but it is not
> going to be installed
>Depends: libkonq3 (>= 4:2.1.1.0-0.potato3) but it is not going to
> be installed
> E: Sorry, broken packages
> 
> 
> Any suggestions?  
> 
have you tried 

  apt-get install libmng1

libmng1, libqt2, and liblcms are all a part of the archive on kde.debian.net 
and all are not a part of potato.

Ivan

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I hate gdm!

2001-06-07 Thread James Smith
Hello all,

Could somebody tell me a way to force the uninstall of gdm?  It refuses to 
uninstall, and my apt system is locked up because it can't get past 
uninstalling gdm.  I've tried dselect and dpkg --remove.  Here is the output:

Removing gdm ...
dpkg: error processing gdm (--remove):
 subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 gdm

I tried gdm and decided I liked kdm much better.  But I can't install it (or 
anything else) until I uninstall gdm.  Any suggestions?

Thanks,
James Smith




Re: local KDE programs

2001-06-07 Thread Gordon Sadler
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 05:19:18AM +0300, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:
> Hi Ivan and all,
> 
> Where should we be installing local programs in? I install KDE
> programs with --prefix=/usr/local and they don't seem to work
> correctly unless I install them under /usr. They will not be
> able to access their data files and so forth. How can I install
> my local programs under /usr/local and have them work without
> such problems?
> 
> The problem so far occured at least with kbiff and ksetiwatch.
> They insist on being installed directly in /usr which leaves
> a lot of cruft.
> 
Try something like:
KDEDIR=/usr:/usr/local
prefix=/usr/local

or better build/install kde yourself to /usr/local/kde2.x, then just 
KDEDIR=/usr/local/kde2.x
 
and all of you other kde programs will work fine.
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local KDE programs

2001-06-07 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Hi Ivan and all,

Where should we be installing local programs in? I install KDE
programs with --prefix=/usr/local and they don't seem to work
correctly unless I install them under /usr. They will not be
able to access their data files and so forth. How can I install
my local programs under /usr/local and have them work without
such problems?

The problem so far occured at least with kbiff and ksetiwatch.
They insist on being installed directly in /usr which leaves
a lot of cruft.

Thanks,

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Kppp whit kernel 2.4.5

2001-06-07 Thread Fabio 'Gey' Vendramin
Hi to all!
I have a question.

I have installed debian 2.2r3 with kernel 2.4.5 and
all the packets upgraded (mount, ppp, libc6 etc).

Normally i use gnome but now i would to use kde 2.1.1
All is ok but i can't establish a ppp connection with 
kppp.

With pppconfig and the command line pon is all ok
and i can connect to internet, but when i try to connect
with kppp this is what happen:

chat[7314]: abort on (BUSY)
chat[7314]: abort on (NO CARRIER)
chat[7314]: abort on (VOICE)
chat[7314]: abort on (NO DIALTONE)
chat[7314]: abort on (NO DIAL TONE)
chat[7314]: abort on (NO ANSWER)
chat[7314]: send (ATZ^M)
chat[7314]: expect (OK)
chat[7314]: ATZ^M^M
chat[7314]: OK
chat[7314]:  -- got it
chat[7314]: send (ATM0DTx^M)
chat[7314]: expect (CONNECT)
chat[7314]: ^M
pppd[7313]: Terminating on signal 15.
pppd[7313]: Exit.

Anyone can help me ?
Thanks.




Re: apt-get upgrade to KDE 2.1.1 failed for potato-ppc

2001-06-07 Thread Gordon Sadler
On Sun, Jun 03, 2001 at 11:29:08PM -0500, Tim Fairbank wrote:
> I have a stable Debian 2.2r3 system with KDE 1.1.2
> installed. When I attempted to use the packages from
> kde.debian.net to upgrade to KDE 2.1.1, the upgrade failed.
>  
> The issue appears to be a dependency on libmng1, which does
> not exist in potato. What's worse, the version of
> libmng1 in woody depends on libc6 >= 2.2.2-2, so I
> can't just build from source and install by hand.

Sure you can. 
apt-get --build source libmng1 (if you point at unstable)

else find libmng sources in the pool
pool/main/libm/libmng/libmng_1.0.1-1.diff.gz
" "   libmng_1.0.1-1.dsc
" "   libmng_1.0.1.orig.tar.gz

download 
dpkg-source -x libmng_1.0.1-1.dsc
cd libmng-1.0.1
fakeroot debian/rules binary
cd ..
lintian *.deb 
dpkg -i *.deb

> I would need to upgrade the whole system...which I'm
> resisting, since it's running perfectly now.
> 
> Here are the details:
 
> Any suggestions?  
> 
> 

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Re: I hate gdm!

2001-06-07 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Tue, Jun 05, 2001 at 01:53:42AM -0500, James Smith wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> Could somebody tell me a way to force the uninstall of gdm?  It refuses to 
> uninstall, and my apt system is locked up because it can't get past 
> uninstalling gdm.  I've tried dselect and dpkg --remove.  Here is the output:
> 
> Removing gdm ...
> dpkg: error processing gdm (--remove):
>  subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
> Errors were encountered while processing:
>  gdm
> 
> I tried gdm and decided I liked kdm much better.  But I can't install it (or 
> anything else) until I uninstall gdm.  Any suggestions?

well you can always remove the prerm script (rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/gdm.prerm)
however not knowing what all it does in that script you may cause gdm to
not properly cleanup after itself.  my suggestion would be to grab that
script and take a look to see what's hosed.

Ivan

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writing gnumeric functions in python (fwd)

2001-06-07 Thread Bruce Sass
Hi All,

Sorry 'bout the To: header... but it is (hmmm) inter-disciplinary, and
the topic appears neglected enough to warrant such drastic a action.

[feel free to give me a virtual slap-upside-the-head if I'm wrong]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2001 21:58:42 -0500
From: Skip Montanaro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: python-list@python.org
Subject: writing gnumeric functions in python


I'm using Gnumeric 0.64 as delivered with Mandrake 8.0.  I'm trying to
figure out what you can do in Python to program the Gnumeric spreadsheet.  I
couldn't find anything in the Gnumeric manual.  I have a few questions and
was hoping someone here could steer me in the right direction.

1. Do I have to add functions to the central startup file
   (.../python/gnumeric_startup.py) or can I define a Python module
   somewhere in my personal directory tree that will get loaded?
<...>
--- end forwarded ---

The point is not Skip's problem,
but why isn't that sort of question being asked here, on
debian-{kde,python}?

There is the kdebindings package... does it do anything for anyone?
Are there any python or perl scripts for KSpread, KWord, etc.,
kicking around?

I did notice that the dcoppython package would conflict with PyQt,
if there was a PyQt package (what's up with that?)

What is the state of this kind of user-programmable functionality with
KDE, Debian-KDE?


- Bruce




Re: local KDE programs

2001-06-07 Thread Bruce Sass
On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Bruce Sass wrote:
<...>
> ...edit a bit (scarrier than it sounds, but do read the Debian

that should be... not as scary as it sounds  :/





Re: configure: error: Qt (>= 1.42 and < 2.0)

2001-06-07 Thread Ben Burton

> checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= 1.42 and < 2.0) (libraries) not
> found. Please check your installation!

May I ask what you're trying to configure?  Looks like it's after the qt1 
libraries, not the qt2 libraries - is this a KDE 1.x app?

b.

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configure: error: Qt (>= 1.42 and < 2.0)

2001-06-07 Thread Bud Rogers
checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= 1.42 and < 2.0) (libraries) not 
found. Please check your installation! 

Sometimes I get this error when I try to configure a KDE package on my potato 
system.  I have Qt 2.3.0 and 1.45 installed.  

twocups:~# dpkg -l 'libqt*' | grep ^ii
ii  libqt-dev  2.3.0-final-0. Qt GUI development headers, static libraries
ii  libqt1g1.45-3 Shared Library used by applications linked w
ii  libqt2 2.3.0-final-0. Qt GUI Library (runtime version).
ii  libqt2.2   2.3.0-final-0. Qt GUI Library (Migration package).

I've tried configure --with-qt-libraries.  No joy. What am I missing?

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Re: configure: error: Qt (>= 1.42 and < 2.0)

2001-06-07 Thread Bud Rogers
On Tuesday 05 June 2001 19:45, Ben Burton wrote:
> > checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= 1.42 and < 2.0) (libraries)
> > not found. Please check your installation!
>
> May I ask what you're trying to configure?  Looks like it's after the qt1
> libraries, not the qt2 libraries - is this a KDE 1.x app?

This is from kmpg-0.5.4, but I got the same error trying to configure  
c-cpp-reference-1.0 for kdevelop a couple of nights ago.  In both cases I 
tried ./configure --with-qt-libraries=/usr/lib/qt1g/lib, which I thought 
would help it find the 1.45 libs, but that didn't change the error.

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How to change usable desktop area?

2001-06-07 Thread Chris Boyle
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Hi,

I have GKrellM [1] open all the time, in fact two copies when I'm online (one 
from another machine). I'd like to have it always visible, but don't want to 
set it always on top as it would obscure a fairly large region of other 
windows, especially when I have two of them.

I currently use the kicker extension "Dock Application Bar" on the right-hand 
edge of the screen, which sets a "strut" in the window manager so maximised 
windows will stay off that edge of the screen, where I can then put GKrellM. 
This works very well except a few brain damaged apps, notably most Java Swing 
apps I've seen so far, seem to set themselves dockable and thus try and 
squeeze themselves into a square on this docking bar.

And so (finally, sorry this is so long) to my questions: is there a better 
way to do this? Some other means of setting a strut, beyond coding something 
specially for the purpose? I would be prepared to write something; would 
anyone else here find a plain "strut" kicker extension or app useful?

Or (before someone else says it) do you all think I should just not maximise 
windows and go get a life? =)

[1] GKrellM is basically a column-shaped system monitor with plugins to do a 
_lot_ of other stuff, see http://gkrellm.net/

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Re: Sound server not initialising

2001-06-07 Thread Alan Chandler
On Tuesday 05 June 2001 8:35 am, Aquarius wrote:
> The KDE sound server doesn't seem to initialise when I boot my machine.
> I don't get any sound from KDE at all (or, indeed, from anything else).

I think KDE sound server starts when you log on.

Do you get anything if you log on as root?  I found I was getting sound only 
when root and not when I logging in to my user account. 

This was a permission thing with /dev/audio, and I have to add myself to the 
audio group.

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Re: local KDE programs

2001-06-07 Thread Bruce Sass
On Tue, 5 Jun 2001, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote:

> Hi Ivan and all,
>
> Where should we be installing local programs in? I install KDE
> programs with --prefix=/usr/local and they don't seem to work
> correctly unless I install them under /usr. They will not be
> able to access their data files and so forth. How can I install
> my local programs under /usr/local and have them work without
> such problems?
>
> The problem so far occured at least with kbiff and ksetiwatch.
> They insist on being installed directly in /usr which leaves
> a lot of cruft.

If you are running testing or unstable you can package them up
relatively painlessly.

cd 


Debianize with...

dh_make --custom /usr/share/doc/kdelibs-dev/dh-make

...edit a bit (scarrier than it sounds, but do read the Debian
Policy Manual  first, and trust that
Ivan knew what he was doing when he made the template)...

debuild # or "debian/rules binary", or "debian/rules"
# depending on if you want to build and check
# a .deb, build a .deb, or see what will be
# built

Hmmm, I wonder if a "back-ported" dh_make and template would work well
for Potato-KDE users?


- Bruce




Re: Brahms doesn't run -- what's /dev/sequencer?

2001-06-07 Thread John Gay



>Has anybody managed to get Brahms to run under KDE 2.1? I managed to
>compile it cleanly but I get the following error when running it:
>
>alpha:~$ brahms
>Well - got no root rights, so the realtime clock rate is
>64 Hz now, which may sound ugly sometimes
>ERROR: Couldn't open /dev/sequencer to get some information
>ERROR: Couldn't open /dev/sequencer to get some information
>Segmentation fault
>

Did you get any suggestions? I was having similar problems with Ivan's old
version of Brahms but I assumed it was a combination of Brahms being compiled
for KDE1 and some simple configuration problem with my sound. I have arts
working and xmms, timidity++ and other work, though some things need to be run
through artsdsp, like mtvp, but I also have problems with kmid?i? The karioke
one, the other KDE midi player with all the advanced features works, but the
sound keep breaking up on my system, a PII350 with 256M memory.

I've been told that brahms is now in the KDE cvs, but not yet in the official
files. I would like to have Brahms, and would be willing to compile and test
this with my system, but I know very little about making sure that it goes in
the proper place for Debian or haw to make deb's. I've read a few of the mails
about this, but just wanted to get a good feel about what I need to read and
know before possibly making improper deb's. I know that Ivan had a page about
the subject, but I still can't reach the new kde.debian.net server.

The other consideration is tha I'm running Progeny, but with Ivan's more
up-to-date KDE2.1. As this is a mix of potato, testing, Ivan's potato kde
packages and some custom Progeny packages, I would need to be sure that I had
the proper versions of everything before I started compiling anything anyway.

Please be gentle, I'm not a real programmer. I just like playing with Linux and
realy, realy want brahms as rosegarden is far too limited and buggy to do
anything with at all! A good document for reading to explain the proper
locations for Debian files and tools I should have would be welcome.

Cheers,

 John Gay





Re: kde 2.2 deps for unstable ?

2001-06-07 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
yes it does mean more work for me..however I had already planned on doing
so once I get a working set of .deb's that I'm happy with.

Ivan

On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 07:21:52PM +0200, Malte Cornils wrote:
> "Ivan E. Moore II" wrote:
> > what deps are you missing?
> > On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 06:04:42PM +0200, Philipp Schmid wrote:
> > > How long do we have to wait for them?
> > > or can i get them from a dep source ?
> 
> I think he was speaking of debian packages (debs). Getting them from
> experimental is probably something most people are not accustomed to
> (including me :-)). Since other packages (like Adrian Bunk's "kernel
> 2.4 for potato" packages) are put up on people.debian.org and
> "announced" as an apt line, would it be inconvenient for you to put
> them up on people.debian.org instead of (or in combination with)
> experimental? If it means more work for you, please don't; I'd
> rather see that go into maintaining the high package quality than
> pleasing the impatient crowd. :)
> 
> I know, you'll probably tell me to learn using experimental and in
> fact, this is probably correct :-)
> 
> -Malte #8-)
> 
> 
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kde 2.2 deps for unstable ?

2001-06-07 Thread Philipp Schmid
How long do we have to wait for them?
or can i get them from a dep source ?

greets philipp




Re: Sound server not initialising

2001-06-07 Thread Aquarius
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> AC wrote:
> On Tuesday 05 June 2001 8:35 am, Aquarius wrote:
>> The KDE sound server doesn't seem to initialise when I boot my machine.
>> I don't get any sound from KDE at all (or, indeed, from anything else).
> 
> I think KDE sound server starts when you log on.
> 
> Do you get anything if you log on as root?  I found I was getting sound only 
> when root and not when I logging in to my user account. 
> 
> This was a permission thing with /dev/audio, and I have to add myself to the 
> audio group.

Forget it. I'd pulled the blasted audio cable out. Shoot me now.

Aq.

-- 
"The grand plan that is Aquarius proceeds apace"
-- Frank Miller, "Ronin"




RE: I'm ignorming mails about kde.debian.net/tdyc.com

2001-06-07 Thread Casey Paul Scott
I think it's really more fun to put those AOHell and/or M$DN service
pack cd's in the microwave for 3-5 seconds apiece. They make pretty
coasters, and it's a great science experiment/lightning show but
either way, good stress relief...

Cheers~
CPS

. o O ( Ooh, the smell of ozone in the morning... better than coffee...)

-Original Message-
From: Ivan E. Moore II [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 07, 2001 5:25 PM
To: debian-kde@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: I'm ignorming mails about kde.debian.net/tdyc.com


On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 05:14:13PM -0700, G. L. `Griz' Inabnit wrote:
> On Thursday 07 June 2001 16:15, Ivan E. Moore II 's fingers did this
all over
> the keyboard!! :
>
> [snip]
>
> > /me grumbles some more.
> >
> > ok...I feel better...I need to go break some more stuff now
>
> Hey Ivan!!
>   I got a couple of old ComPukes and PackratBells here yer welcome to
come
> over and just ENJOY the hell out of with a hammer!! :--
>   I'll even load Windon't on 'em for ya!!


hahahaI think I'm going AOL skeet shooting tomorrow.


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