Re: Konsole & AA fonts

2001-03-03 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:42:07PM -0600, Ben Burton wrote:
> 
> > Anyways, this is my XftConfig file, cobbled together from bits, not that I
> > really understand what it exactly means :-)
> 
> You are truly wonderful..! - I now have KDE using antialiased fixed-width 
> fonts.  And I even think I have half an understanding of how that XftConfig 
> works now.. :)

so does this mean there's no objections to me re-enabling AA support in
konsole?

Ivan

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Re: Kconsole

2001-03-03 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
> After the later update to KDE2.1 in Debian unstable it appears in the 
> "Settings" for Kconsole that the "Keyboard" settings for 'xterm (xfree 3x)' 
> and 'xterm (xfree 4x)' have not only swapped places but they both now do the 
> same thing which is the xfree 4x style of keyboard.

that's very strange as I took the old default (x4) and created a new Keytab
file for it and took the old X3 Keytab and copied it to default...weird that
they would be the same..unless they were the same to begin with.

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Re: kde2.1 potato - arts package is broken, asks for uninstalable packages

2001-03-03 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
James,

 Why don't you load up dselect and take care of those dependencies
that are missing.

Ivan

On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:23:12PM -0800, James Duberg wrote:
> OK, here's what it says:
> 
> 
> > Reading Package Lists...
> > Building Dependency Tree...
> > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> > or been moved out of Incoming.
> > The following information may help to resolve the situation:
> >
> > Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
> >   kdebase: Depends: kdebase-libs (>= 4:2.1-final-0) but it is not going
> >   to be installed Depends: libgl1 but it is not installable
> >Depends: kdebase-libs (>= 4:2.1-final-0.potato1) but it is not
> >going to be installed task-kde: Depends: kdebase-libs but it
> >   is not going to be installed Depends: konqueror but it is not going to
> > be installed Depends: konsole but it is not going to be
> > installed
> > Depends: kuser but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: ksysv but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: kcron but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: kpackage but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: ksysctrl but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: secpolicy but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: kghostview but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: kview but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: kmail but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: korn but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: korganizer but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: abbrowser but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: ark but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: kab but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: karm but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: kcalc but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: kcharselect but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: kdepasswd but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: kdf but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: kedit but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: kfind but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: khexedit but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: kjots but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: knotes but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: kpm but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: ktimemon but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: koffice-libs but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: pixie but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: kpaint but it is not going to be installed
> > Depends: kiconedit but it is not going to be installed
> 
> 
> 
> --On Friday, March 02, 2001 06:39:02 PM -0800 Eduardo Silva 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > What dependencies does it ask for?
> > I saw one dependency problem that I've mentioned
> > before, and it was fixed(thanks to the mantainer(s)).
> >
> > Are you sure you have
> > deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main crypto optional
> > qt1apps
> > in your source.list file?
> >
> > Eduardo
> 
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Re: kde2.1 potato - arts package is broken, asks for uninstalable packages

2001-03-03 Thread rob

Eduardo Silva writes:
 > What dependencies does it ask for?
 > I saw one dependency problem that I've mentioned
 > before, and it was fixed(thanks to the mantainer(s)).
 > 
 > Are you sure you have 
 > deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main crypto optional
 > qt1apps
 > in your source.list file?

not to belittle the work that Ivan is doing, but I would like to
doublecheck my sources.list file with the group.

The only tdyc line that I have is commented out, and I am running 

biffhero-laptop:~# cat /etc/debian_version
testing/unstable

the sources.list lines that I am using are as follows:

biffhero-laptop:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -v "#" | sort -u
 
deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb http://master.debian.org/~doogie/netscape all/
deb http://master.debian.org/~doogie/netscape i386/
deb http://pandora.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable non-US/main non-US/contrib
non-US/non-free
deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://pandora.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable non-US/main 
non-US/contrib non-US/non-free

Now, when I go to the control center, the KDE version is shown as 2.1

Is what I have the right thing to do?  How can I improve upon it?

thanks,
rob




Re: kde2.1 potato - arts package is broken, asks for uninstalable packages

2001-03-03 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
> not to belittle the work that Ivan is doing, but I would like to
> doublecheck my sources.list file with the group.

why would you belittle the work I've done?

> The only tdyc line that I have is commented out, and I am running 
> 
> biffhero-laptop:~# cat /etc/debian_version
> testing/unstable

which would be correct as KDE is in unstable already.  

> the sources.list lines that I am using are as follows:
> 
> biffhero-laptop:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep -v "#" | sort -u
>  
> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
> deb http://master.debian.org/~doogie/netscape all/
> deb http://master.debian.org/~doogie/netscape i386/
> deb http://pandora.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable non-US/main 
> non-US/contrib
> non-US/non-free
> deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://pandora.debian.org/debian-non-US unstable non-US/main 
> non-US/contrib non-US/non-free
> 
> Now, when I go to the control center, the KDE version is shown as 2.1
> 
> Is what I have the right thing to do?  How can I improve upon it?

if your running unstable you have the latest and greatestor should.

Ivan

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[debi@bigaxe.ath.cx: PM: Re: kdestudio and kde-designer]

2001-03-03 Thread Daniel de los Reyes

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On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 12:52:07PM +0100, Daniel de los Reyes wrote:
> Sorry, this was supposed to go to debian-kde
> 
> 
> 
> El Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 12:49:51PM +0100, Daniel de los Reyes dijo:
> -| I refreshed my kdestudio installation today but I keep getting the same 
> error:
> -| 
> -| studio: error in loading shared libraries: libkdefakes.so.0: cannot open 
> shared
> -| object file: No such file or directory
> -| 
> -| 
> -| A  side from this, before I updated to 2.1-final I was using kde-designer 
> with kdevelop (I understand this is qt-designer with kde support isn't it? ) 
> -| When I upgraded to 2.1-final kde-designer was removed I now I can only 
> have qt-designer.
> -| Why is this?
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Hi! I got the same problem, then i search for this lib and i found one, and 
maked a sym link and it works!

so search for a libkdefakes !

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Re: kde2.1 potato - arts package is broken, asks for uninstalable packages

2001-03-03 Thread rob

Ivan E. Moore II writes:
 > > not to belittle the work that Ivan is doing, but I would like to
 > > doublecheck my sources.list file with the group.
 > 
 > why would you belittle the work I've done?

I was thinking that I should have a tydc.com line in my sources.list
file, but you are building everything KDE, right?  

 > 
 > > The only tdyc line that I have is commented out, and I am running 
 > > 
 > > biffhero-laptop:~# cat /etc/debian_version
 > > testing/unstable
 > 
 > which would be correct as KDE is in unstable already.  

I thought that was the case.  I don't keep the debian versions
straight in my head, just something like scary, kinda safe, and
steady-goes-the-ship.  This whole name-change game every n months I
haven't kept up with.

thanks,
rob




Re: kde2.1 potato - arts package is broken, asks for uninstalable packages

2001-03-03 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
>  > > not to belittle the work that Ivan is doing, but I would like to
>  > > doublecheck my sources.list file with the group.
>  > 
>  > why would you belittle the work I've done?
> 
> I was thinking that I should have a tydc.com line in my sources.list
> file, but you are building everything KDE, right?  

ahh...yea...I'm doing the core KDE apps (plus a few others) - (currently)
 
>  > > The only tdyc line that I have is commented out, and I am running 
>  > > 
>  > > biffhero-laptop:~# cat /etc/debian_version
>  > > testing/unstable
>  > 
>  > which would be correct as KDE is in unstable already.  
> 
> I thought that was the case.  I don't keep the debian versions
> straight in my head, just something like scary, kinda safe, and
> steady-goes-the-ship.  This whole name-change game every n months I
> haven't kept up with.

hehe...welp...we should be slowing down now..heading towards the Debian 
freeze...If things go right KDE 2.2 won't be in woody.  :)  Wishfull
thinking probably...2.2 is scheduled currently for a June 4th release (IIRC).
2.1.1 is due out in a few weeks...of which we are semi-current with it...
So from now until release it's get KDE as stable and bug free as we possibly
can...with goal #1 being get it into testing.  QT *should* be in testing in
a couple weeks...KDE will be further down the road as we are still haveing
problems on alpha. But we are getting closer. 

Ivan

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Problems installing kdenetwork

2001-03-03 Thread Martin Schmitt
Hello everyone!

I have a little problem when trying to install the kdenetwork package.

Distribution is Potato, the apt-line for KDE is:

deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main crypto optional qt1apps

This is what happens when I try to install kdenetwork:

>>>
# apt-get install kdenetwork
(...)
Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
  kdenetwork: Depends: libmime1 (>= 4:2.0-final-0) but it is not installable
E: Sorry, broken packages
<<<

However, if I look for libmime in the list of installed packages, I find:

>>>
# dpkg -l|grep libmime
ii  libmime-base64 2.11-2 MIME/Base64 decoding for Perl
rc  libmime1   2.0.1-0.potato mime libraries needed for some KDE applicati
ii  libmimelib12.1-final-0.po mime libraries needed for some KDE applicati
<<<

Of course, libmime1 won't install, because there is already a newer version:

>>>
# apt-get install libmime1
(...)
Package libmime1 has no available version, but exists in the database.
This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and 
never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents 
of sources.list
However the following packages replace it:
  libmimelib1 
E: Package libmime1 has no installation candidate
<<<

Since I'm a rather clueless apt user, I have no idea where to go from here.

I have recently upgraded from KDE 2.0 via dist-upgrade.

There also is a current installation of Helix Gnome (or whatever they call
it these days) on the system, but I don't think this is a conflict between
KDE and Gnome.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance!

-martin

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Re: Problems installing kdenetwork

2001-03-03 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
ok...I want everyone to PAY ATTENTION... :)  not yelling...

I really urge people not to use the "qt1apps" section anymore...unless for
some reason you really really want QT1/KDE1 based apps.  I don't support
them anymore and I'm sure it'll be hard getting KDE to support them let alone
Trolltech...

with KDE 2 there is no "kdenetwork" package...which is your problem.

now...if you really really want QT1/KDE1 apps and must have kdenetwork I
can provide you with libmime1...

Ivan


On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 10:27:40AM +0100, Martin Schmitt wrote:
> Hello everyone!
> 
> I have a little problem when trying to install the kdenetwork package.
> 
> Distribution is Potato, the apt-line for KDE is:
> 
> deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main crypto optional qt1apps
> 
> This is what happens when I try to install kdenetwork:
> 
> >>>
> # apt-get install kdenetwork
> (...)
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   kdenetwork: Depends: libmime1 (>= 4:2.0-final-0) but it is not installable
> E: Sorry, broken packages
> <<<
> 
> However, if I look for libmime in the list of installed packages, I find:
> 
> >>>
> # dpkg -l|grep libmime
> ii  libmime-base64 2.11-2 MIME/Base64 decoding for Perl
> rc  libmime1   2.0.1-0.potato mime libraries needed for some KDE applicati
> ii  libmimelib12.1-final-0.po mime libraries needed for some KDE applicati
> <<<
> 
> Of course, libmime1 won't install, because there is already a newer version:
> 
> >>>
> # apt-get install libmime1
> (...)
> Package libmime1 has no available version, but exists in the database.
> This typically means that the package was mentioned in a dependency and 
> never uploaded, has been obsoleted or is not available with the contents 
> of sources.list
> However the following packages replace it:
>   libmimelib1 
> E: Package libmime1 has no installation candidate
> <<<
> 
> Since I'm a rather clueless apt user, I have no idea where to go from here.
> 
> I have recently upgraded from KDE 2.0 via dist-upgrade.
> 
> There also is a current installation of Helix Gnome (or whatever they call
> it these days) on the system, but I don't think this is a conflict between
> KDE and Gnome.
> 
> Any suggestions?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> -martin
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kbiff, was: Problems installing kdenetwork

2001-03-03 Thread Martin Schmitt
* Ivan E. Moore II wrote/schrieb:

> with KDE 2 there is no "kdenetwork" package...which is your problem.

Oh. No, the qt1apps entry has been there for quite some time. I've removed
it now. Though, to be honest I'd really like to have some features of KDE 1 
back. 

I was initially looking for kbiff. _Is_ there an xbiff replacement in KDE2
at all? 

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Re: Kconsole

2001-03-03 Thread Andreas Trottmann
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 11:11:56PM -0700, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:

> > After the later update to KDE2.1 in Debian unstable it appears in the 
> > "Settings" for Kconsole that the "Keyboard" settings for 'xterm (xfree 3x)' 
> > and 'xterm (xfree 4x)' have not only swapped places but they both now do 
> > the 
> > same thing which is the xfree 4x style of keyboard.
> 
> that's very strange as I took the old default (x4) and created a new Keytab
> file for it and took the old X3 Keytab and copied it to default...weird that
> they would be the same..unless they were the same to begin with.

They are not the same, but something's broken anyway :->

Ivan: Apparently you did the following between the last two released
versions of konsole:

 * make default.Keytab xfree4.keytab
 * make x11r5.keytab default.Keytab

Now, this is a bit confusing, because it seems that default.Keytab is
a config file just like the *.keytab files, is loaded dynamically, and
can thus be changed by the system administrator.
But, this turns out not to be the case: default.Keytab contains

# This file is used to create the buildin keyboard table.
# It is included for reference purpose with the *.keytab
# files that are loaded dynamically.
#
# Modifying it does not have any effect (unless you
# derive the default.keytab.h and recompile konsole).

So, apparently it seems that you have moved the files around, but not
"derived the default.keytab.h" (whatever that means :-/ ) before
building the konsole deb.

I'm downloading the source right now and I'll see whether I can give you
further assistance on what to do to make konsole's keys work well.


Everybody: A quick workaround to make your current konsole binaries
work, is to (as root, and note the spelling of Keytab vs. keytab)

cd /usr/share/apps/konsole/
cp default.Keytab working.keytab

then (as ordinary user) start a new konsole, select the *second* entry 
"xterm (XFree 3.x.x)" in the keyboard configuration menu, and save your
settings. Et voilà: your home/end keys will work again ;)

You will probably have to rechange and resave your settings when there
will be fixed packages, though.

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KDE and debian packages.

2001-03-03 Thread Patrick Bielen
Hello guys,

Well i wanted to ask... what's up with all that debian packages to install 
kde ??? Look like a terrible mess

I installed kde in the folowing way

apt-get install kdm kdebase

everything goes fine BUT 

i can't access kmenuedit from the panel menu when i give kmenuedit at 
konsole i get the following error...

==
kmenuedit: error in loading shared libraries: kmenuedit.so: cannot open 
shared object file: No such file or directory
==

great :-)

BUT THERE IS MORE

when i did apt-get install kdeadmin kdegraphics kdemultimedia kdeutils
welll about 20 kde packages to be removed ??? well just great :-)

when i do apt-get install kdenetwork
well dependencie problems... kdenetwork requires libmime1 xx but is 
not to be installed... okay continue...

apt-get install limmime1
well... can't find libmime1 but libmimelib1 replaces it real strange 
because kdenetwork still doesn't installs.

apt-get install kde-i18n-nl
well downloading... after that error size not correct ? 

works all great

okay here is my sources.list

==
deb-src cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r0 _Potato_ - Unofficial Extras 
(2818)]/
 unstable non-US/non-free
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r0 _Potato_ - Unofficial Extras (2818)]/ 
uns
table contrib non-US/non-free non-free
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r0 _Potato_ - Official i386 Binary-3 
(2814)]
/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r0 _Potato_ - Official i386 Binary-2 
(2814)]
/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r0 _Potato_ - Official i386 Binary-1 
(2814)]
/ unstable contrib main non-US/contrib non-US/main
deb http://security.debian.org/ potato/updates main contrib non-free
deb ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian dists/potato-proposed-updates/
deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato main crypto optional qt1apps
==

well i hope this problems will be soon fixed and not only at kde.tdyc.com but 
also on the other mirrors :-)

hope this will help you guys.

greetings

Patrick Bielen




Which KDE source

2001-03-03 Thread Alfred Munnikes
Hello

Why are the KDE source-packages always different ?

The official bz2 files (convert to gzip (bunzip *.bz2;gzip *)) are
different than the file's from kde.tdyc.com and they are different from
the Debian mirrors (in the pool directory)?! (but all have the same name
*-final.orig.tar.gz)


If you have a potato system with some upgraded packages (like xfree
4.0.2 from woody etc.) and like to recompile KDE yourself, you have to
download KDE 2.1 3 times (it is nog a pure potato system, so the potato
packages may not work, so also download the woody packages and the bzip2
file's are the same all the other users (developers of other KDE
software, like KwinTV, etc etc) use, so also download them).

It also takes a lot of time for the maintainer to make 2 different
.tar.gz packages when there is a official package (the official bz2
files (bunzip => gzip for the Debian policy))


I can understand the patch file's are different for potato and woody
(libc6 and other package differences) but that are only files from a few
Kb's


So which source have I to download when I want to compiler KDE on Debian
2.2 with Xfree 4.0.2 and some more Debian 2.3 packages like dpkg and
more deb-development packages (libc6 is from potato) ?
I also want to get a very 'official' KDE 2.1 so I can compile 99.99% of
the KDE software without problems.



Now I have compiled kwintv  fine, but running kwintv is impossible 

(no debugging symbols found)...(no debugging symbols found)...
(no debugging symbols found)...0x40a57d19 in wait4 () from
/lib/libc.so.6
#0  0x40a57d19 in wait4 () from /lib/libc.so.6
#1  0x40ab2cd8 in __check_rhosts_file () from /lib/libc.so.6
#2  0x410a865b in waitpid () from /lib/libpthread.so.0
#3  0x402c6160 in KCrash::defaultCrashHandler () from
/usr/lib/libkdecore.so.3

#4  0x409f9858 in sigaction () from /lib/libc.so.6
#5  0x806a1ce in QCollection::newItem ()
#6  0x805e2eb in QCollection::newItem ()
#7  0x8057344 in QCollection::newItem ()
#8  0x8057e7e in QCollection::newItem ()
#9  0x409f3a42 in __libc_start_main () from /lib/libc.so.6


And compiling Kvirc 2.1.0 is not possible:

c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../src   -I/usr/X11R6/include
-I/usr/include/qt -I/usr/X11R6/include -D_REENTRANT -I../common
-I../kvicore -I../kvilib -DGLOBAL_KVIRC_DIR=\"/usr/share/kvirc\" 
-fno-exceptions -march=i686 -s -O3 -c kvi_dlgoptions.cpp
kvi_dlgoptions.cpp: In method `void
KviGeneralOptionsDialog::okClicked()':
kvi_dlgoptions.cpp:3200: invalid use of undefined type `class KviFrame'
kvi_app.h:56: forward declaration of `class KviFrame'
make[4]: *** [kvi_dlgoptions.o] Error 1
make[4]: Leaving directory `/tmp/5/kvirc-2.1.0/src/kvirc'
make[3]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/tmp/5/kvirc-2.1.0/src'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2
make[2]: Leaving directory `/tmp/5/kvirc-2.1.0/src'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/tmp/5/kvirc-2.1.0'
make: *** [build-stamp] Error 2

(I think that the last one is because of the difference bewteen the
source of KDE 2.1 from Debian 2.2 and 2.3)

Alfred Munnikes
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Re: Kconsole

2001-03-03 Thread Rick Van Ruth
Thanks Andreas, this has worked in the interim.

Strange how one gets used to using certain keys, I'm lost without those 
home/end keys, they are like an instinctual thing when using the console.

On Sat,  3 Mar 2001 22:35, Andreas Trottmann wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 11:11:56PM -0700, Ivan E. Moore II wrote:
> > > After the later update to KDE2.1 in Debian unstable it appears in the
> > > "Settings" for Kconsole that the "Keyboard" settings for 'xterm (xfree
> > > 3x)' and 'xterm (xfree 4x)' have not only swapped places but they both
> > > now do the same thing which is the xfree 4x style of keyboard.
> >
> > that's very strange as I took the old default (x4) and created a new
> > Keytab file for it and took the old X3 Keytab and copied it to
> > default...weird that they would be the same..unless they were the same to
> > begin with.
>
> They are not the same, but something's broken anyway :->
>
> Ivan: Apparently you did the following between the last two released
> versions of konsole:
>
>  * make default.Keytab xfree4.keytab
>  * make x11r5.keytab default.Keytab
>
> Now, this is a bit confusing, because it seems that default.Keytab is
> a config file just like the *.keytab files, is loaded dynamically, and
> can thus be changed by the system administrator.
> But, this turns out not to be the case: default.Keytab contains
>
> # This file is used to create the buildin keyboard table.
> # It is included for reference purpose with the *.keytab
> # files that are loaded dynamically.
> #
> # Modifying it does not have any effect (unless you
> # derive the default.keytab.h and recompile konsole).
>
> So, apparently it seems that you have moved the files around, but not
> "derived the default.keytab.h" (whatever that means :-/ ) before
> building the konsole deb.
>
> I'm downloading the source right now and I'll see whether I can give you
> further assistance on what to do to make konsole's keys work well.
>
>
> Everybody: A quick workaround to make your current konsole binaries
> work, is to (as root, and note the spelling of Keytab vs. keytab)
>
> cd /usr/share/apps/konsole/
> cp default.Keytab working.keytab
>
> then (as ordinary user) start a new konsole, select the *second* entry
> "xterm (XFree 3.x.x)" in the keyboard configuration menu, and save your
> settings. Et voilà: your home/end keys will work again ;)
>
> You will probably have to rechange and resave your settings when there
> will be fixed packages, though.

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Re: KDE and debian packages.

2001-03-03 Thread Eduardo Silva
--- Patrick Bielen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello guys,
> 
> Well i wanted to ask... what's up with all that
> debian packages to install 
> kde ??? Look like a terrible mess
> 
> I installed kde in the folowing way
> 
> apt-get install kdm kdebase

try to install the meta-package

task-kde

it will install most kde applications, and sugest a
whole bunch of others. 
It worked fine with me at least. Also, if you select
packages from dselect you can choose better what to
install and what to remove.

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Re: Konsole & AA fonts

2001-03-03 Thread tnvander
> On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:42:07PM -0600, Ben Burton wrote:
> > 
> > > Anyways, this is my XftConfig file, cobbled together from 
> bits, not that I
> > > really understand what it exactly means :-)
> > 
> > You are truly wonderful..! - I now have KDE using antialiased
> fixed-width 
> > fonts.  And I even think I have half an understanding of how
> that XftConfig 
> > works now.. :)
> 
> so does this mean there's no objections to me re-enabling AA 
> support in
> konsole?
> 
> Ivan

I personally have no problem at all with re-enabling AA in Konsole, but I do 
think that if you do, you should give some clear clues to ppl as to what they 
have to do, to make it work correctly when it's all messed up, and I guess 
someone should file a bug against X itself to get a better XftConfig file 
installed by default.

Perhaps I'll get round to it myself one of these days :-)

--Tim







Re: KDE and debian packages.

2001-03-03 Thread Patrick Bielen
> try to install the meta-package
> task-kde

I did that... over and over again uninstalled (purged) reinstalled.
it just don't do the trick... kmenuedit is still unavailable...
something about shared libraries...

but if you install kdebase, i suppose it installs the nessecary programs also 
???

well i guess not !!! even not without that qt1apps etc

the kdebase package is buggy, the problem with kmenuedit IS NOT FIXED !
or there must be some other dependencies or kinda problems.

While Ivan said it was fixed ???

well if i do a dpkg --purge kdebase
and after that
apt-get install kdebase 
and like Ivan said the problem was fixed,
then i suppose that when you reinstall (apt-get install kdebase)
that the problem is fixed ??? or am i stupid ?

It just do not works !

It drives me nuts :-)

Greetings

Patrick




Re: KDE and debian packages.

2001-03-03 Thread Hubert Palme
As for kmenuedit: There is a known, but yet unfixed bug you can ship
around, so we should be patient:

> "Ivan" == Ivan E Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 >> > > clicking on Menu Editor... closes the menu and
 >> > doesn't seem to load anything.
 >> > > Is there a log file somewhere I should be looking
 >> > for errors?
 >> 
 >> The same happens with me, and I'm using
 >> potato+KDE2.1-final and just did an apt-get update and
 >> dist-upgrade to be sure it's updated.
 >> 
 >> This is the message that appears when I run
 >> kmenuedit
 >> from the console:
 >> "kmenuedit: error in loading shared libraries:
 >> kmenuedit.so: cannot open shared object file: No such
 >> file or directory"

 Ivan> potato is not fixed.  Again I'm a bit busy with other things than to deal
 Ivan> with potato right now.  If you have to have the menu editor then install
 Ivan> kdebase-dev.
===^^^


> "Patrick" == Patrick Bielen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

 >> try to install the meta-package
 >> task-kde

 Patrick> I did that... over and over again uninstalled (purged) 
reinstalled.
 Patrick> it just don't do the trick... kmenuedit is still unavailable...
 Patrick> something about shared libraries...

 Patrick> but if you install kdebase, i suppose it installs the nessecary 
programs also 
 Patrick> ???

 Patrick> well i guess not !!! even not without that qt1apps etc

 Patrick> the kdebase package is buggy, the problem with kmenuedit IS NOT FIXED 
!
 Patrick> or there must be some other dependencies or kinda problems.

 Patrick> While Ivan said it was fixed ???

 Patrick> well if i do a dpkg --purge kdebase
 Patrick> and after that
 Patrick> apt-get install kdebase 
 Patrick> and like Ivan said the problem was fixed,
 Patrick> then i suppose that when you reinstall (apt-get install kdebase)
 Patrick> that the problem is fixed ??? or am i stupid ?

 Patrick> It just do not works !

 Patrick> It drives me nuts :-)

 Patrick> Greetings

 Patrick> Patrick


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Re: kde2.1 potato - arts package is broken, asks for uninstalable packages

2001-03-03 Thread James Duberg
Thanks to everyone who offered suggestions. As I said, I am new to Debian 
and the apt system. I think I've got the KDE installation going now. The 
problem was (I think) that I was commenting out the normal lines in 
sources.list before adding the kde source line. When I finally tried 
leaving the existing lines and just adding the kde source, things started 
working better.

Thanks again.
--On Friday, March 02, 2001 11:13:01 PM -0700 "Ivan E. Moore II" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

James,
 Why don't you load up dselect and take care of those dependencies
that are missing.
Ivan
On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 09:23:12PM -0800, James Duberg wrote:
OK, here's what it says:
> Reading Package Lists...
> Building Dependency Tree...
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> or been moved out of Incoming.
> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
>
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
>   kdebase: Depends: kdebase-libs (>= 4:2.1-final-0) but it is not going
>   to be installed Depends: libgl1 but it is not installable
>Depends: kdebase-libs (>= 4:2.1-final-0.potato1) but it is
>not going to be installed task-kde: Depends: kdebase-libs
>but it is not going to be installed Depends: konqueror but
>   it is not going to be installed Depends: konsole but it is not going
> to be installed
> Depends: kuser but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: ksysv but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: kcron but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: kpackage but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: ksysctrl but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: secpolicy but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: kghostview but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: kview but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: kmail but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: korn but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: korganizer but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: abbrowser but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: ark but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: kab but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: karm but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: kcalc but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: kcharselect but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: kdepasswd but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: kdf but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: kedit but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: kfind but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: khexedit but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: kjots but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: knotes but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: kpm but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: ktimemon but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: koffice-libs but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: pixie but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: kpaint but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: kiconedit but it is not going to be installed

--On Friday, March 02, 2001 06:39:02 PM -0800 Eduardo Silva
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What dependencies does it ask for?
> I saw one dependency problem that I've mentioned
> before, and it was fixed(thanks to the mantainer(s)).
>
> Are you sure you have
> deb http://kde.tdyc.com potato main crypto optional
> qt1apps
> in your source.list file?
>
> Eduardo
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packages held back?

2001-03-03 Thread Jesse Goerz
I'm trying to upgrade KDE 2.01 on several of my desktops.

My /etc/apt/sources.list uses this line for KDE:
deb file:/mnt/mirror/kde2 potato main crypto optional

Which is an nfs mounted mirror.  Here's what I'm using to mirror:
rsync -v -v -az --delete --delete-excluded \
   --exclude source/ \
   --exclude incoming/ \
   --exclude changes/ \
   --exclude qt1apps/ \
   --exclude sword/ \
   --exclude binary-alpha/ \
   --exclude binary-m68k/ \
   --exclude binary-sparc/ \
   --exclude binary-powerpc/ \
   --exclude beta/ \
   kde.tdyc.com::kde/dists/potato/ .  

When I run apt-get update everything returns ok.

When I run apt-get upgrade I get:
The following packages have been kept back
  ark kcalc kcron kdebase kdebase-crypto kdebase-libs kdelibs3 
kdelibs3-crypto kfind kmail koffice-libs konqueror
  konsole ksirc kview kword libkonq3 libqt2.2
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 18 not upgraded.

I did dpkg --get-selections | grep  kde* and got:
kdebase install
kdebase-crypto  install
kdebase-doc install
kdebase-libsinstall
kdelibs3install
kdelibs3-crypto install 

Is my problem the fact that I am excluding beta?  Should I add that to the 
mirror and my sources.list file to get KDE 2.1?  I'm behind a slow 
connection, which is why I'm asking first rather than just winging it.

TIA,
Jesse




KDE 2.1-final for powerpc

2001-03-03 Thread Rick Cook
Hello all,

I have finished the powerpc package builds for KDE 2.1-final (including 
koffice_2.1-cvs20010219). They are all available on kde.debian.net (update 
script is currently running).

Three packages from potato/main/source are not included:

iptables- This package requires a 2.4.0 kernel
knetfilter  - This package requires iptables
kfilereplace- This has a packaging problem that keeps it from 
installing


If I don't get any "negative" feedback, I will make the ISO image on Monday 
afternoon (CST).


Rick
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Re: Kconsole

2001-03-03 Thread Andreas Trottmann
On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 01:35:12PM +0100, Andreas Trottmann wrote:

> So, apparently it seems that you have moved the files around, but not
> "derived the default.keytab.h" (whatever that means :-/ ) before
> building the konsole deb.
> 
> I'm downloading the source right now and I'll see whether I can give you
> further assistance on what to do to make konsole's keys work well.

OK... seems that the following thing works:

apt-get source konsole
cd kdebase-2.1.0/konsole/tests
make quote
cd ../include
../tests/quote ../other/default.Keytab >default.keytab.h
cd ../..

dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -rfakeroot


Maybe the re-build of default.keytab.h should be done at every build 
of konsole... it could be included in the Makefile
(include/default.keytab.h depends on other/default.Keytab and can be
built using tests/quote... i'm no makefile expert but it should be
possible somehow.

Like this you wouldn't even need to ship default.keytab.h with the
source, thus eliminating future similar problems.

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Upgrading to KDE 2.1

2001-03-03 Thread Howard Mann
Hi,

I'm trying to upgrade to KDE 2.1 using apt-get. I'm using Potato.

This is what happens :

howardm:~$sudo apt-get -s dist-upgrade
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
Calculating Upgrade... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  kdebase kdebase-crypto kdebase-libs kdelibs3 kdelibs3-crypto kedit
kfind
  kfloppy konqueror konsole kpm libkonq3 
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libldap2 libmagick5 libmng1 libqt2 libsasl7 
The following packages have been kept back
  knode 
2 packages upgraded, 5 newly installed, 12 to remove and 1 not
upgraded.


My sources.list  :  deb ftp://kde.tdyc.com/pub/kde potato main crypto
optional 

I have the following debs currently installed :

ii  kdeadmin   1.1.2-19990906 
ii  kdebase2.0.1-0.potato 
ii  kdebase-crypto 2.0.1-1
ii  kdebase-libs   2.0.1-0.potato 
ii  kdegraphics1.1.2-19990906 
ii  kdelibs-doc1.1.2-final-1  
ii  kdelibs2g  1.1.2-final-1  
ii  kdelibs3   2.0.1-0.potato 
ii  kdelibs3-crypt 2.0.1-0.potato 
ii  kdenetwork 1.1.2-19990911 
ii  kdesupport0g   1.1.2-19990906 
ic  kdeutils   1.1.2-19990906 

and

i qt1g   1.44-6 
ii  qt1g-doc   1.45-3

and

openssl0.9.6-0.potato(for Konqueror)  



Shouldn't a "dist-upgrade" with apt-get work?

What should I try ?  Should I purge these, and re-install from
scratch?

If so, what is the most appropriate "install" command in my situation
?

Thanks.


Howard




Re: Upgrading to KDE 2.1

2001-03-03 Thread Matthias Wieser
Howard Mann wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying to upgrade to KDE 2.1 using apt-get. I'm using Potato.
> 
> If so, what is the most appropriate "install" command in my situation
> ?
> 

apt-get install task-kde

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Re: Konsole & AA fonts

2001-03-03 Thread Ben Burton

> so does this mean there's no objections to me re-enabling AA support in
> konsole?

No objections from me. :)  But like Tim, I think it would be good to provide 
documentation for the non-debian-kde reader for how to get konsole working 
decently.

One suggestion might be to put the information in 
/usr/share/doc/konsole/README.AAfonts or some such file.  I can try to draw 
up such a file over the weekend if you want.  I don't know what the protocol 
is (the problem is serious enough that if konsole with QT_XFT=1 cannot find 
fixed-width fonts it becomes essentially unusable) - do we want to notify the 
user on installation (a preinst popup like with xfs/xdm/etc?) that these 
instructions exist?

I think half the problem here is that X cannot provide a good default 
XftConfig since it depends on what Type1/TT fonts you have installed, and 
there's no guarantee that any two users have any two such fonts in common.

Anyway.  I promised I'd go help at a yard sale. :)

Ben.

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Re: Konsole & AA fonts

2001-03-03 Thread Scott L . Patterson
On Friday 02 March 2001 17:58, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Well it was totally unuseable for me until I tweaked the XftConfig file. I
> also installed an extra font, monotype.ttf. I'm not sure if my XftConfig
> will make things work now without that font; since I don't have an
> AA-enabled konsole anymore I can't experiment with it :-)
>
> The problem is not specifically with konsole though, the Font settings
> panel in the kontrol center has the same problem with it's fixed-width font
> as konsole. So I think it's something in the way in which KDE or QT ask for
> their fixed width fonts that make them not see all those Couriers and
> others.
>
> Anyways, this is my XftConfig file, cobbled together from bits, not that I
> really understand what it exactly means :-) I'm curious if any of those
> settings will cure the problems with konsole without having the
> monotype.ttf font present. But to try it, I'd have to interrupt this e-mail
> and log out 
>
> Remove fontdirs that don't apply to your setup. Much luck with it!
>
> --Tim
>
> #$XFree86$
>
> dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
> dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/TrueType"
> dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/freefont"
> dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/sharefont"
> dir "/opt/Office51/fonts/type1/"
> dir "/usr/share/abisuite/fonts/"
> dir "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/tt_win"
>
> #alias 'fixed' for 'mono'
>
> match any family == "fixed"   edit family =+ "mono";
>
> #Some own experiments with aliasing font families...
> match any family == "mono"edit family =+ "fixed";
> match any family == "Courier New" edit family =+ "fixed";
> match any family == "Courier New" edit family =+ "mono";
>
> match any family == "fixed"   edit family =+ "Courier New";
> match any family == "mono"edit family =+ "Courier New";
> match any family == "fixed"   edit family =+ "LuciduxMono";
>
> # Copied from XftConfig found on Keith Packard's website:
> #
> # Substitute TrueType fonts for Type1 versions
> #
> match any family == "Times"   edit family += "Times New Roman";
> match any family == "Helvetica"   edit family += "Verdana";
> match any family == "Courier" edit family += "Courier New";
>
> #
> # Use TrueType fonts for defaults
> #
> match any family == "serif"   edit family += "Times New Roman";
> match any family == "sans"edit family += "Verdana";
>
> #
> # Use monotype.com (andale) face where possible
> #
> match
>   any family == "mono"
>   all slant == roman
>   all weight < bold
> edit
>   family += "monotype.com";
> #
> # otherwise, use courier
> #
> match any family == "mono"edit family += "Courier New";
>
> # End of copied stuff
>
> #Check users config file
>
> includeif "~/.xftconfig"
>
>
> #Use Lucidux fonts for default faces
>
> match any family == "serif"   edit family += "LuciduxSerif";
> match any family == "sans"edit family += "LuciduxSans";
> match any family == "mono"edit family += "LuciduxMono";
>
>
> #Alias between XLFD families and font file family name, prefer local
> #fonts
>
> match any family == "charter" edit family += "bitstream charter";
> match any family == "bitstream charter" edit family =+ "charter";
>
> match any family == "Lucidux Serif"   edit family += "LuciduxSerif";
> match any family == "LuciduxSerif"edit family =+ "Lucidux Serif";
>
> match any family == "Lucidux Sans"edit family += "LuciduxSans";
> match any family == "LuciduxSans" edit family =+ "Lucidux Sans";
>
> match any family == "Lucidux Mono"edit family += "LuciduxMono";
> match any family == "LuciduxMono" edit family =+ "Lucidux Mono";

Upon adding these lines, my KDE default install was usable with AA fonts. 
Very nice. Thanks for the clarifying post:)

Scott




Re: Which KDE source

2001-03-03 Thread Gordon Sadler

Questions which source for kde development should be used, kde tarballs,
Ivan's tarballs or something else?

Complains about two specific packages, namely kvirc and kwintv.


No expert here, but your best bet IMO is to stick with Ivan's sources.
The release that just occurred of KDE 2.1 had a few 'packaging' problems
initially. They had to tag and retag and branch the CVS tree a few
times. Ivan stays pretty much on top of things. Of course, if you really
want the whole truth and nothing but, you can track CVS too.

On to the packages. I have no idea how either on works or was developed,
I just went to their respective webpages after reading your post. 

1. kvirc, something amiss with it's tarball. It is missing
admin/macros/find-dl.m4.in. Which leads to it not having a proper check
for dlopen, which leads to no support for plugins, which leads to ...
kvi_dlgoptions.cpp includes kvi_frame.h for the proper definition of
kvi_frame, HOWEVER, it is surrounded by #ifdef PLUGIN_SUPPORT #endif.
Follow?
As a work around either define the appropriate pre-processor symbol (ie
HAVE_SS_PLUGIN_SUPPORT or something close) or remove the #ifdef #endif
so it will unconditionally include kvi_frame.h. That MAY lead to other
problems, but this is a problem with kvirc, not Ivan or KDE or Debian...

2. kwintv, I downloaded as well, sorry didn't spend the time here. Could
be a very similar problem. Suggest you look at the source.

Good Luck

Gordon Sadler





Just upgraded...

2001-03-03 Thread cjm2
Hi:

Just ran apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade on Potato.  KDE 2.1
for Potato is an improvement over 2.0 that is like night and day and
upgraded without a hitch. Far more stuff working.  Thanks, Ivan.

Later,

Colin Mattoon




KDE for progeny?

2001-03-03 Thread John Gay
After deserting you for Progeny, I've decided to come back!

Progeny seems to be based on woody, but the current version of KDE seems to be

progeny:/home/jgay# konqueror -v
Qt: 2.2.2
KDE: 2.0
Konqueror: 1.9.8
progeny:/home/jgay#

and konqueror is broken. I've been away for a while, just lurking on the 
list. I want to try KDE2.1 now. From your site, it lists potato packages. I 
would think that woody packages would be under woody, but it's not listed? 
I've been very impressed with Ivan's work, especially when he fetched and 
packaged brahms for me by request! Where can I get woody packages for KDE2.1?

At the moment trying to install task-kde from the potato packages results in:

The following extra packages will be installed:
  kcron kdebase-libs kdelibs3 kdepim-libs kdf kformula kiconedit kivio kmail
  knode korn kpackage kpaint ksirc ksysctrl ksysv kuser libarts libkmid
  libkonq3 liblcms libmimelib1 libmng1 libqt2 libqt2.2 libssl096 pixie
  secpolicy
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  libmime1 task-kdegames task-kdegraphics task-kdemultimedia task-kdenetwork
  task-kdepim task-kdetoys task-kdeutils task-koffice
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  kcron kdepim-libs kdf kformula kiconedit kivio kpackage kpaint ksysctrl
  ksysv kuser libarts libkmid libmimelib1 libmng1 libqt2 libssl096 pixie
  secpolicy
10 packages upgraded, 19 newly installed, 9 to remove and 119 not upgraded.
Need to get 16.9MB of archives. After unpacking 17.2MB will be used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] n

and kde-multimedia, kde-network and such are the most current installed?

I realise this is probably simpler than I am making it, but the current 
version of KDE is not adequit and I want my Brahms back.

Thanks again to Ivan for his tireless work and dedication to getting KDE to 
work with Debian!

Cheers,

John Gay




Re: KDE and debian packages.

2001-03-03 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
> I did that... over and over again uninstalled (purged) reinstalled.
> it just don't do the trick... kmenuedit is still unavailable...
> something about shared libraries...
> 
> but if you install kdebase, i suppose it installs the nessecary programs also 
> ???
> 
> well i guess not !!! even not without that qt1apps etc
> 
> the kdebase package is buggy, the problem with kmenuedit IS NOT FIXED !
> or there must be some other dependencies or kinda problems.
> 
> While Ivan said it was fixed ???

let me talk like you... "NO I DIDN"T!"  geez... you don't do a good job paying
attention.

> well if i do a dpkg --purge kdebase
> and after that
> apt-get install kdebase 
> and like Ivan said the problem was fixed,
> then i suppose that when you reinstall (apt-get install kdebase)
> that the problem is fixed ??? or am i stupid ?
> 
> It just do not works !
> 
> It drives me nuts :-)

I said it's fixed in unstable/sid.  I also said that I do not have the
ability to fix it in potato immediatly and that to solve it all you have
to do is install kdebase-dev.

not only did I say this, but others have said this on this list multiple
times.

Ivan

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Re: Which KDE source

2001-03-03 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
> Why are the KDE source-packages always different ?
> 
> The official bz2 files (convert to gzip (bunzip *.bz2;gzip *)) are
> different than the file's from kde.tdyc.com and they are different from
> the Debian mirrors (in the pool directory)?! (but all have the same name
> *-final.orig.tar.gz)
 

the orig.tar.gz files sitting on kde.tdyc.com are based off the bz2 files
that were provided to me by KDE prior to the release...all I did was

tar -jxvf package.bz2
rename the directory name to how debian likes it
tar -czvf it back to the .orig.tar.gz

If they are different it's KDE's fault.

Now...they are not different they the debian mirrors...I used the exact
same sources to build the potato packages as I did the unstable packages.

> If you have a potato system with some upgraded packages (like xfree
> 4.0.2 from woody etc.) and like to recompile KDE yourself, you have to
> download KDE 2.1 3 times (it is nog a pure potato system, so the potato
> packages may not work, so also download the woody packages and the bzip2
> file's are the same all the other users (developers of other KDE
> software, like KwinTV, etc etc) use, so also download them).
> 
> It also takes a lot of time for the maintainer to make 2 different
> .tar.gz packages when there is a official package (the official bz2
> files (bunzip => gzip for the Debian policy))
 
I'm really confused as to the problem.  The *ONLY* difference between all
of the potato 2.1 packages and all of the unstable 2.1 packages are that
unstable is post 2.1...  in a few weeks KDE will release 2.1.1...unstable
is currently contains all of the fixes that are going to be in 2.1.1.

Developers are going to use CVS if they are smart...if they don't they them
running 2.1 from the bz2 files from KDE is not going to cause problems with
a user running either potato or unstable KDE 2.1 packages.

 
> I can understand the patch file's are different for potato and woody
> (libc6 and other package differences) but that are only files from a few
> Kb's
> 
> 
> So which source have I to download when I want to compiler KDE on Debian
> 2.2 with Xfree 4.0.2 and some more Debian 2.3 packages like dpkg and
> more deb-development packages (libc6 is from potato) ?
> I also want to get a very 'official' KDE 2.1 so I can compile 99.99% of
> the KDE software without problems.
 
either...depends on of you want the *official* release or you want the
*official* release plus *official* updates and fixes.

Your best bet is to stick with the potato source.
 
> Now I have compiled kwintv  fine, but running kwintv is impossible 
> 

[...]
> 
> And compiling Kvirc 2.1.0 is not possible:
> 
> c++ -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../../src   -I/usr/X11R6/include
> -I/usr/include/qt -I/usr/X11R6/include -D_REENTRANT -I../common
> -I../kvicore -I../kvilib -DGLOBAL_KVIRC_DIR=\"/usr/share/kvirc\" 
> -fno-exceptions -march=i686 -s -O3 -c kvi_dlgoptions.cpp
> kvi_dlgoptions.cpp: In method `void
> KviGeneralOptionsDialog::okClicked()':
> kvi_dlgoptions.cpp:3200: invalid use of undefined type `class KviFrame'
> kvi_app.h:56: forward declaration of `class KviFrame'

[...]

> (I think that the last one is because of the difference bewteen the
> source of KDE 2.1 from Debian 2.2 and 2.3)
> 
> Alfred Munnikes
> p.s. I'm nog an the debian-kde list, so please reply also to this e-mail
> adres.

you are completely wrong here...the error above is a kvirc error.
KviFrame is not a part of KDE 2.1...it's part of kvirc.  The above error 
message tells me somethings hosed with their source.

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missing 7x13 font in konsole

2001-03-03 Thread David Eidson
After trying various combinations of solutions found in this list I've 
sucsessfully resolved all the font related issues save one.  I still get the 
"missing '7x13' font" error message window popping up when starting konsole.  
Clicking ok on the error window lets konsole start up and run perfectly.  
Going in and changing the font/size settings once in konsole works.  Opening 
new sessions works.  But once you close konsole and restart it, the missing 
font message reappears.  I have reloaded all the base fonts including 
scalable and fixed fonts.  On this particular machine there are no TT fonts 
so it's using xfs (not xfs-xtt).  The machine has potato stable release on it 
with xfree 3.3.6.   All other apps seem to behave correctly where fonts are 
concerned.   Any ideas where I might look for a solution?
Thanks!

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potato updates

2001-03-03 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
Ok...I got my potato box running and just kicked off the build process...

Packages that will be updated:

libvorbis 
libogg
libldap (somehow got hosed)
qt-x11
kdelibs
kdebase
xmmsarts,kdestudio and other contrib apps that need updated

Ivan

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compile troubles

2001-03-03 Thread Oliver Johns
Dear folks,

This is off-subject for this list, my apologies.  I've read the archives of 
kde-developer and kde-bugs and found nothing.  Also the kde-compilation-faq 
seems to have nothing relevant.  It has to do with failure to compile kde2.1. 
Please ignore this if it's too far off-subject.  But...if anyone has a clue 
or a pointer... .  For example, where should I ask this question?

Sources:  
qt-2.3.0-beta1 from ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/qt-x11-2.3.0-beta1.tar.gz
kde2.1 sources from 
ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/2.1/distribution/tar/generic/src/kdelibs-2.1.tar.bz2,
etc., for the other packages.

System:
Up-to-date VALinuxRedHat, version 6.2.4-beta 12
X-windows 3.3.6
kernel 2.2.18-pre11 from VALinux
(gcc version egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release))

Report:
(1) Qt seems to compile correctly.  No evident errors. 
(Used options: -sm -gif -system-jpeg -no-opengl) 
By default: Xft support (Anti-Aliased Fonts) was set to "no".

(2) Kde2 kdesupport also seems to compile correctly.  No evident errors.

(3) ldd on all of the libraries and executables created up to this point
shows no problems.  All dependent libraries are found correctly.

(4) Kde2 kdelibs begins to compile.  But there seems to
be what I take to be a link error, as shown below, in kdeui.

(5) I even tried copying the Qt-libs from my debian box over to this one and 
trying to compile against them.  Still, same error. 

Thanks,
O. Johns
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g++ -O2 -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -Wall -pedantic -W -Wpointer-arith 
-Wmissing-prototypes -Wwrite-strings -Wno-long-long -Wnon-virtual-dtor 
-fno-builtin -frtti -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -o 
.libs/libkdeui.la.closure .libs/libkdeui_la_closure.o .libs/qxembed.o 
.libs/ksharedpixmap.o .libs/kthemestyle.o .libs/kurllabel.o .libs/knuminput.o 
.libs/ktoolbar.o .libs/klineedit.o .libs/klistview.o .libs/kprogress.o 
.libs/kimageeffect.o .libs/kcolordlg.o .libs/kselect.o .libs/kdatepik.o 
.libs/kdatetbl.o .libs/kfontdialog.o .libs/kpopupmenu.o .libs/ktabctl.o 
.libs/kstatusbar.o .libs/kmainwindow.o .libs/ktmainwindow.o .libs/kmenubar.o 
.libs/kpixmapio.o .libs/keditlistbox.o .libs/kseparator.o 
.libs/krestrictedline.o .libs/kcolorbtn.o .libs/ksystemtray.o 
.libs/kbuttonbox.o .libs/keditcl1.o .libs/keditcl2.o .libs/kled.o 
.libs/kdbtn.o .libs/kwizard.o .libs/kcontainer.o .libs/kkeydialog.o 
.libs/kruler.o .libs/kcursor.o .libs/kaccelmenu.o .libs/klineeditdlg.o 
.libs/kthemebase.o .libs/kcharselect.o .libs/kcolordrag.o 
.libs/knumvalidator.o .libs/kdialog.o .libs/kdialogbase.o 
.libs/kjanuswidget.o .libs/kaboutdialog.o .libs/kpixmapeffect.o 
.libs/kauthicon.o .libs/kmessagebox.o .libs/kdualcolorbtn.o 
.libs/ktoolbarradiogroup.o .libs/ktoolbarbutton.o .libs/ktextbrowser.o 
.libs/kaction.o .libs/khelpmenu.o .libs/kcmenumngr.o .libs/kpanelmenu.o 
.libs/kstdaction.o .libs/kdrawutil.o .libs/kiconview.o .libs/klistbox.o 
.libs/kbugreport.o .libs/kcombobox.o .libs/kpassdlg.o .libs/kxmlguiclient.o 
.libs/kxmlgui.o .libs/kxmlguibuilder.o .libs/kedittoolbar.o 
.libs/kdocktabctl.o .libs/kdockwidget.o .libs/kdockwidget_private.o 
.libs/kanimwidget.o .libs/krootpixmap.o .libs/kaboutkde.o 
.libs/kaboutapplication.o .libs/kpanelapplet.o .libs/kdcopactionproxy.o 
.libs/kcolorcombo.o .libs/kpushbutton.o .libs/kpanelextension.o 
.libs/kcompletionbox.o .libs/kalphapainter.o .libs/ksqueezedtextlabel.o 
.libs/kcommand.o .libs/kwindowlistmenu.o .libs/libkdeui_la_meta_unload.o  
../kdecore/.libs/libkdecore.so -L/usr/X11R6/lib 
/usr/local/kde2.1/kdelibs-2.1/kdecore/.libs/libkdefakes.so -ldl 
/usr/local/kde2.1/kdelibs-2.1/dcop/.libs/libDCOP.so -L/usr/local/kde2/lib 
-lqt -lpng -lz /usr/lib/libjpeg.so -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE 
-L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/egcs-2.91.66 
-L/usr/i386-redhat-linux/lib -lstdc++ -lm -lc -lgcc -Wl,--rpath 
-Wl,/usr/local/kde2/lib
.libs/ktoolbar.o(.data+0x190): undefined reference to 
`QToolBar::styleChange(QStyle &)'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [libkdeui.la.closure] Error 1
make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/kde2.1/kdelibs-2.1/kdeui'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/kde2.1/kdelibs-2.1/kdeui'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/local/kde2.1/kdelibs-2.1'
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2




Re: compile troubles

2001-03-03 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
> This is off-subject for this list, my apologies.  I've read the archives of 
> kde-developer and kde-bugs and found nothing.  Also the kde-compilation-faq 
> seems to have nothing relevant.  It has to do with failure to compile kde2.1. 
> Please ignore this if it's too far off-subject.  But...if anyone has a clue 
> or a pointer... .  For example, where should I ask this question?
> 
> Sources:  
> qt-2.3.0-beta1 from ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/qt-x11-2.3.0-beta1.tar.gz
> kde2.1 sources from 
> ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/2.1/distribution/tar/generic/src/kdelibs-2.1.tar.bz2,
> etc., for the other packages.
> 
> System:
> Up-to-date VALinuxRedHat, version 6.2.4-beta 12
> X-windows 3.3.6
> kernel 2.2.18-pre11 from VALinux
> (gcc version egcs-2.91.66 19990314/Linux (egcs-1.1.2 release))
>
> 
> Report:
> (1) Qt seems to compile correctly.  No evident errors. 
> (Used options: -sm -gif -system-jpeg -no-opengl) 
> By default: Xft support (Anti-Aliased Fonts) was set to "no".

that's good as it would fail otherwise as you only have X3.3.6. :)

> (4) Kde2 kdelibs begins to compile.  But there seems to
> be what I take to be a link error, as shown below, in kdeui.
> 
> (5) I even tried copying the Qt-libs from my debian box over to this one and 
> trying to compile against them.  Still, same error. 
> 
> -lqt -lpng -lz /usr/lib/libjpeg.so -lXext -lX11 -lSM -lICE 
> -L/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-redhat-linux/egcs-2.91.66 
> -L/usr/i386-redhat-linux/lib -lstdc++ -lm -lc -lgcc -Wl,--rpath 
> -Wl,/usr/local/kde2/lib
> .libs/ktoolbar.o(.data+0x190): undefined reference to 
> `QToolBar::styleChange(QStyle &)'
> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status

why the heck is it trying to pull in redhat stuff?  

there are several things your doing differently here that I can't really
help you out with...your using rpath (which is against debian policy)...your
pulling in redhat libs or it's just something I'm not familiar with...

I can only truely support that which I'm familiar with..your obviously not
using the kde source+diffs I've created let along the qt+diffs I've created.

Your best bet for help then is to consult KDE and QT.

Ivan

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Re: packages held back?

2001-03-03 Thread Ivan E. Moore II
> The following packages have been kept back
>   ark kcalc kcron kdebase kdebase-crypto kdebase-libs kdelibs3 
> kdelibs3-crypto kfind kmail koffice-libs konqueror
>   konsole ksirc kview kword libkonq3 libqt2.2
> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 18 not upgraded.

[...]

> Is my problem the fact that I am excluding beta?  Should I add that to the 
> mirror and my sources.list file to get KDE 2.1?  I'm behind a slow 
> connection, which is why I'm asking first rather than just winging it.

beta doesn't exist anymore..it's completely gone...even off the hard drive. :)

try 

  apt-get install libqt2.2 kdelibs3

then continue on
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