Re: Debian-Edu and Java (Was: java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit)

2006-11-03 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Thursday 02 November 2006 23:07, Matthias Klose wrote:
> Petter Reinholdtsen writes:
> > The most important feature is java applet support.  Some of the
> > important test cases are listed on
> > http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/JavaInDebianEdu>.  Last time I
> > tested, few of them were working properly in Etch with gcjappletviewer.
> > :(

Petter, please add entries here:

http://developer.classpath.org/mediation/Applets

Thanx, 

Egon

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Re: Debian-Edu and Java (Was: java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWTtoolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit)

2006-11-03 Thread Eric Lavarde - Debian
Hi,

> Petter Reinholdtsen writes:
>> The most important feature is java applet support.  Some of the
>> important test cases are listed on
>> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/JavaInDebianEdu>.  Last time I
>> tested, few of them were working properly in Etch with gcjappletviewer.
>> :(
>
> apparently before java-gcj-compat-plugin entered the archive,
> equivalent with the classpath-0.92 release.
Is the security issue which was discussed a while ago (something about
lack of encapsulation of java applets) solved in the mean time?

Thanks, Eric

>
>   Matthias


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Re: Debian-Edu and Java

2006-11-03 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen

[Matthias Klose]
> apparently before java-gcj-compat-plugin entered the archive,
> equivalent with the classpath-0.92 release.

Yes, that is correct.  Did you test recently?  Did most of them work?

Currently I worry that the free Java applet viewer will be thrown out
of Etch because of #267040.  Do I have reason to worry?  According to
a planet.classpath.org posting some time ago, the unreleased version
of Classpath include much improved security manager support.  The
current one pop up a warning to the user and run without any
sandboxing, while the development version actually implement some kind
of sandbox.  Can anyone verify this?  It would be great to have the
Free applet support in Etch with proper sandboxing.

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Re: java.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit

2006-11-03 Thread Clayton
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 18:59:33 +0100
Matthias Klose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Blackwell writes:
> > David Herron wrote:
> > > 
> > > An off the top of my head guess would be - do you have GNOME
> > > installed?
> > > 
> > > Reasoning ... GtkToolkit refers to GNOME and would be using the
> > > GNOME widgets as peers in the same manner the Motif widgets were
> > > formerly used.
> 
> please install the libgcj7-awt package; I'll let libgcj7-0 recommend
> that package with the next upload.
> 
> > Here is the simple and pragmatic solution if you do not have issues 
> > with using "non free" software:
> > 
> > Whenever you get error messages with that substring in them,
> > install Sun Java, remove GCJ if you can, and ensure that your Linux 
> > installation (other operating systems do not exhibit this problem
> > as far as I know) is configured to use Sun Java for any Java 
> > application (each Linux distribution may have a different approach 
> > to configuring which "Java" implementation to use).
> 
> that kind of attitude will lead to a depopulation of java packages in
> main and java support just for two architectures. If that's your goal,
> please go on.
> 
> We do have a free runtime and compiler supporting the java2 platform
> to a good amount, but apparently not yet 100%, so we will always have
> a conflict between support for a free runtime and support for a subset
> of architectures with a "standard" runtime (which we are unable to
> validate anyway).
> 
>   Matthias

I am the OP. I am sure Blackwell was offering the best information and 
judgement at his disposal at the time. It also bears mentioning that his post 
had me up and running again within a couple of hours of my request for help, 
before my broker's tech support had replied to my e-mail to them. This is no 
small achievement for the Debian community. The broker's tech rep said "thank 
you".

It also bears mentioning that Interactive Brokers have told me in past 
conversations that their java app was built with Sun Java in mind, and I am 
confident if I approached them for serious tech support (as opposed to the 
minor problems I have reported so far) they would tell me to first install Sun 
Java and then we would go from there. That would be their prerogative. I am 
already quite delighted that they are making a serious effort to be 
multi-platform. One of my machines shall continue to run Sun Java.

However, I do have two other machines sitting around which could also run the 
broker app, so I would be happy to use one of them to try the most mature and 
likely-to-succeed free option to Sun's Java. What would you suggest that 
might be? What packages do I need to install?

Clayton


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