Re: [ANN] New version of j2se-package (formerly mpkg-j2sdk)

2003-11-12 Thread Stefan Gybas
Takashi Okamoto wrote:

I would like to upload j2se-package Nov 11. If you disagree, please
tell me.
I don't disagree but I think the FTP admins will reject the package 
after reading the "ftpmaster accepts packages that have been rejected a 
few days ago" thread in -devel, especially 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200311/msg00766.html.

Stefan

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Re: [ANN] New version of j2se-package (formerly mpkg-j2sdk)

2003-11-12 Thread Daniel Bonniot

I don't disagree but I think the FTP admins will reject the package 
after reading the "ftpmaster accepts packages that have been rejected 
a few days ago" thread in -devel, especially 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200311/msg00766.html. 

And why do you think that? The cases look quite different to me.

Daniel



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Re: [ANN] New version of j2se-package (formerly mpkg-j2sdk)

2003-11-12 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Stefan Gybas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> I don't disagree but I think the FTP admins will reject the package
> after reading the "ftpmaster accepts packages that have been rejected
> a few days ago" thread in -devel, especially
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200311/msg00766.html.

Well, it seems that _some_ FTP admins will and some don't, so if you
get a REJECT just keep on submitting it until you get REJECTs from
each of them... :)

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Re: [ANN] New version of j2se-package (formerly mpkg-j2sdk)

2003-11-12 Thread Stefan Gybas
Daniel Bonniot wrote:

And why do you think that? The cases look quite different to me.
Because the FTP admins abviously don't want to have a lot of small 
packages when these small scripts/binaries with the same target users 
can easily be put into a single package (that's also my opinion). But 
we'll see if the package gets accepted or not, I really don't mind if it 
gets accepted.

Stefan

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[charva] Shared libs and JNI

2003-11-12 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Hi this();

I'm working on 'charva' package (#203187) and it has a shared library
called libTerminal.so.

Is it a good name?

If not, how to change it?

Do I put it in /usr/lib/jni/?

Do I have to split the package or can I just package it as 'charva'?

[I think it's very java-centric and it's the first time I'm dealing with
JNI! If debian-mentors is more appropriate, I'm also a subscriber, so
feel free to redirect the discussion on that list.]

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Re: [ANN] New version of j2se-package (formerly mpkg-j2sdk)

2003-11-12 Thread Daniel Bonniot

Because the FTP admins abviously don't want to have a lot of small 
packages when these small scripts/binaries with the same target users 
can easily be put into a single package (that's also my opinion). 
Yes, but I don't see what existing package could hold this script.
java-common certainly belongs to main, while this script requires
non-free software, and so should be in contrib.
Daniel



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Re: Kaffe in testing

2003-11-12 Thread Dalibor Topic
Salut Arnaud, hi all,

Arnaud Vandyck wrote:
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:20:39 +0100
Daniel Bonniot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
[...]


Given that a release it coming, it would be really nice if these
issues  could be solved. There are at the moment 17 packages prevented
to enter  testing because of kaffe. Or looking at it more positively,
making kaffe  enter testing would allow (or at least help?) 17 other
package to enter too. :-)


Two more important bugs (but I did not file it on the bts):

- problem with xml entities (bug introduced by gnujaxp): resolved with
  1.1.2
- java.util.TimeZone.SHORT does not exists: resolved with 1.1.2

Dalibor, when do you plan a new release of kaffe?
I am not personally involved in the debian packaging of kaffe [1], so I 
can't say what Ean's plans are. Kaffe 1.1.3 should come out by the 
beginning of december according to our 'every two months a release' [2] 
schedule.

Marko Jung, one of our local debianistas in Saarbruecken, expressed some 
interest in helping out with the packaging of kaffe to take some of the 
load off Ean due to our frequent release schedule, and to help with 
getting up to date kaffe releases into testing, and the next debian 
release. I've CC:ed him on this mail, too. If Ean approves, he could 
help out with kaffe packaging. I think Marko already applied to become a 
debian maintainer, and is, AFAIK, currently packaging the ATI binary 
drivers.

cheers,
dalibor topic
[1] Beside going over the debian bug database ocassionally, and pointing 
out what's been fixed in the CVS.
[2] http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg03400.html

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Re: Kaffe in testing

2003-11-12 Thread Dalibor Topic
Daniel Bonniot wrote:

The other bug is a build problem on m68k, so it is probably going to go 
away when the builds on (alpha, arm, m68k, s390, sparc) are fixed. Are 
these architecture supported upstream? If yes, then maybe Dalibor could 
look at the logs and help with diagnosing the problem. If not, then 
maybe they should be removed from kaffe architecture list, so it can 
move in testing for the working ones.
Those build failures should have been fixed in 1.1.2. They were mostly 
introduced by the new gcc version being more strict about bad code than 
versions before ;)

In general, you can regard any platform in the CVS as supported with 
kaffe. How far the support goes, though, depends on how many people 
there are developing on it. As usual, the more popular platforms (intel) 
have more developers working on them, so bugs get spotted faster and 
fixed quicker. ;)

cheers,
dalibor topic
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Re: Kaffe in testing

2003-11-12 Thread Daniel Bonniot
Hi,

Thanks Dalibor for these great news (and his work on Kaffe itself). So 
it seems that upstream 1.1.2 fixes most of the releast-critical problems 
of kaffe (except the manpage bug). It would therefore be very important 
for Java-on-Debian to have a new package made soon. Ean, can you do it? 
If you are busy, maybe Marko can prepare the packages, and you can 
review them and upload them when they are OK.

Daniel



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Re: Kaffe in testing

2003-11-12 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:51:39 +0100
Dalibor Topic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I am not personally involved in the debian packaging of kaffe, so I
> can't say what Ean's plans are.

I think Ean does not want to upload a newer kaffe because it's nearly
freeze time for Debian...


  It would be better to resolve the last 'trivial bugs'
  and upload the newest release as possible
  _before_ freeze time.


> Kaffe 1.1.3 should come out by the  beginning of december
> according to our 'every two months a release' schedule.

Great! I'd love to see this release in Debian... stable ;)

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Re: [charva] Shared libs and JNI

2003-11-12 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo Arnaud,

* Arnaud Vandyck wrote:
>I'm working on 'charva' package (#203187) and it has a shared library
>called libTerminal.so.
>Is it a good name?
>If not, how to change it?

Hm, from my basic JNI knowledge from eclipse, the lib is loaded from
code in a static block somewhere. Look for something like 
static {
  System.loadLibrary(name);
}  

change the name probably involves renaming the native library and that
call. If you want to support different versions of that lib, it is
probably better to change the name to -.so. Thats what
eclipse does.

>Do I put it in /usr/lib/jni/?

Yes.


When we switch to the findjava system, it should even be possible to
get the sun derived, binary only JVMs to include that dir in
-Djava.library.path by setting that optionin the 'GENERAL_ARGS'
variable of the java-config file. So to be policy complient, there
isn't a need for wrapper scripts.


>Do I have to split the package or can I just package it as 'charva'?

When I read the policy right, it's better to split out *big* arch
dependend portions, so if your whole package is only very small, just
put everything into one package and label it as 'any' instead of
'all'. This will mean, that you have to build it on all platform
(while you are on it: eclipse needs to have its libswt-*-java and
eclipse-platform compiled on all kaffe platforms...), when i can' go
into main...

If the both parts are very large, then it would make sense to split
it into one arch dependend and one 'arch all' package, but I gues that
will never be achieved by a simple java lib...

>[I think it's very java-centric and it's the first time I'm dealing with
>JNI! If debian-mentors is more appropriate, I'm also a subscriber, so
>feel free to redirect the discussion on that list.]

Read the policy, IMO it explains the problem quite good.

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Re: [ANN] New version of j2se-package (formerly mpkg-j2sdk)

2003-11-12 Thread T. Alexander Popiel
In message:  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 Jan Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>Hallo Hubert,
>
>* Hubert Schmid wrote:
>>the package also be called 'mpkg-j2se'?
>
>BTW: what does "2se stand for?" 

J2SE stands for Java2 Standard Edition in Sun-speak.  Similarly,
J2EE is Java2 Enterprise Edition, including a bunch of extra
libraries useful for running an app server.  In the mpkg-j2se
context, it's presumably referring to the distribution that's
getting packaged.

- Alex


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RFT: charva -- java windowing toolkit for text terminals

2003-11-12 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Request For Tests (and for Review and for Comments)

Hi all,

It's the first time I package a jni library ('java native interface')
with a java library. Charva uses native bindings to render buttons,
listboxes etc. in a terminal.

You can apt-get libcharva1-java and libcharva1-jni here:
deb http://people.debian.org/myjava/charva/ ./
deb-src http://people.debian.org/myjava/charva/ ./

You can build the examples (don't forget to put
/usr/share/java/charva.jar in your classpath) and run it but
README.Debian first! ;)

Note: You can answer me in private,
  the result will be in the pool asap.

Warning: It's in contrib and you'll need a jdk to build and a jre to
 run... maybe nonfree jdk and jre at the moment.

Best regards and many thanks for your time and patience,

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Re: [ANN] New version of j2se-package (formerly mpkg-j2sdk)

2003-11-12 Thread Jan Schulz
Hallo T.,

* T. Alexander Popiel wrote:
>J2SE stands for Java2 Standard Edition in Sun-speak.  Similarly,
>J2EE is Java2 Enterprise Edition, including a bunch of extra
>libraries useful for running an app server.  In the mpkg-j2se
>context, it's presumably referring to the distribution that's
>getting packaged.

Hm: I think most users will no know this context and will search for
"java". So IMO, it would be best to include that buzzword somewhere in
the package name. mpkg-java comes to my mind :)

Jan
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