Re: JVM Registry (was: CLASSPATH and Jikes)

2002-11-03 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 04:14:06PM -0600, Ean Schuessler wrote:
> I am attempting to resurrect both my Kaffe package and my involvement
> therein. This JVM registry seems like a great idea. What would it take
> to move it forward?

Well some development of a working format for the repository and tools
that can use it. Probably needs some discussion too.

Regards,

// Ola

> On Fri, 2002-04-05 at 13:56, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> > > http://people.debian.org/~bab/javareg/
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Re: JVM Registry (was: CLASSPATH and Jikes)

2002-11-03 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Wed, Oct 30, 2002 at 09:47:50AM +1100, Ben Burton wrote:
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Hi

> 
> Well that was fun, somebody unsubscribed me from debian-java; the first I 
> heard was the successful unsubscription notification.  As a result I nearly 
> missed this.  But anyway:
> 
> > I am attempting to resurrect both my Kaffe package and my involvement
> > therein. This JVM registry seems like a great idea. What would it take
> > to move it forward?
> 
> I've now dredged up the full proposal I initially made over a year ago and put 
> it up as http://people.debian.org/~bab/javareg/PROPOSAL.txt .

Ahh forgot about my other message. There is already a proposal. :)

> What I believe would need to happen is:
> 
> 1) People agree on whether a JVM registry is in principle a good thing;
I second that. :)

> 2) People agree on precisely what fields should be provided in the registry 
> files, and whether these registry files should be conffiles or not;
> 3) The proposal is put into java policy;
When that the 1, 2 and at least started the 4 I'll do that. :)

> 4a) The various debian JVMs and compilers add registry files to their 
> packages, while:
> 4b) The registry query scripts are added to java-common and tweaked/modified 
> as necessary.
> 
> At which point other java packages can successfully start using this registry.
> 
> So.  How do people currently feel about (1)? ;-)
> 
> Btw, there was some discussion on all of this back in September/October 2001, 
> you might want to browse the archives if you're interested in people's 
> earlier reponses.

Regards,

// Ola

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Re: lib-rxtx-java package

2002-11-03 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hi

On Sat, Nov 02, 2002 at 03:31:14PM -0500, Joe Phillips wrote:
> On Sat, 2002-11-02 at 07:43, Mario Joussen wrote:
> > On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 12:07:53PM -0500, Joe Phillips wrote:
> > > I chose to package 2.0 (as opposed to 2.1) as it is documented to work
> > > with Java CommAPI.  I have successfully used my package with some
> > > CommAPI software already.
> > 
> > But there's the problem. I think that the Java CommAPI is like the other
> > Java stuff from Sun non free in the sense of Debian. And therefore it's
> > better to have rxtx version 2.1 in the Debian distribution. 
> 
> I understand.
> 
> I don't understand why we can't just re-implement java CommAPI
> completely but that's a side issue right now.
> 
> > I think you
> > can use every software that works with javax.comm also with gnu.io if
> > you have the source code.
> 
> and *that's* the problem.  I *don't* have the source for everything I
> need to run.  Further, I see Java CommAPI as a 'standard' interface that
> we're not implementing.
> 
> Can we have packages for both?  maybe with the 2.0 package in
> contrib/non-free and 2.1 is in main?

Yes, but then with different name. The package should also be
named librxtx-java and not lib-rxtx-java. :)

Regards,

// Ola

> > I hope, that I have the time to package rxtx 2.1 this weekend.
> 
> If not, I can help.
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Re: Bug#163390: JNI Installation Directories (again)

2002-11-03 Thread Ola Lundqvist
Hi

On Tue, Oct 29, 2002 at 07:03:28AM +1100, Ben Burton wrote:
> 
> > Personally, I feel they're 'just libraries' and should be treated as
> > such, going into /usr/lib.
> 
> My argument for /usr/lib/jni is that other programs aren't going to want to 
> link with them, so it's better not to clutter up the default shared library 
> paths.

And I assume that no changes have to be made in /etc/ld.so.conf (or similar)?

> It's the same reason C python modules are placed beneath /usr/lib/pythonX.Y - 
> these are just libraries, but you only ever use them as python imports, so 
> you avoid cluttering up /usr/lib.
> 
> > To me the key is that we agree on a single place to put JNI libraries.
> 
> Yep, that and to also have the JVMs support this single place by including it 
> in the default java.library.path.

Is this possible?

Regards,

// Ola

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