Re: request for bug filing on all packages uses /usr/share/java/repository

2002-01-04 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 11:43:54AM -0600, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 07:28:19PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
> > Can I do the above?  It's just so crappily wrong to have this, it
> > should have never existed, the person(s) who thought it up should be
> > flambayed(sp).
> > 
> > I WANT to remove ALL traces of this from ALL packages, NOW.  It makes
> > building oh so difficult.
> 
> Amid all the arguments I've lost track of exactly why
> /usr/share/java/repository causes a problem for building things. Can
> somebody explain to me why it's worse than, say, /usr/include or
> /usr/lib?

The lack of versioning support is the problem. One other problem is that
the hader definition and implementation are located on the same place.
It is the same as if /usr/lib and /usr/include was located in the same
place.

Regards,

// Ola

> I've just converted jlex to using a .jar rather than the repository,
> anyway, although I can't really see any particular benefits one way or
> the other for a standalone program like this.
>
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Re: request for bug filing on all packages uses /usr/share/java/repository

2002-01-04 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 07:12:29PM +0100, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 11:43:54AM -0600, Colin Watson wrote:
> > Amid all the arguments I've lost track of exactly why
> > /usr/share/java/repository causes a problem for building things. Can
> > somebody explain to me why it's worse than, say, /usr/include or
> > /usr/lib?
> 
> The lack of versioning support is the problem. One other problem is that
> the hader definition and implementation are located on the same place.
> It is the same as if /usr/lib and /usr/include was located in the same
> place.

OK. I now see why it applies to libraries, but don't see why it's a
benefit for standalone programs (where multiple versions can't be
installed via dpkg simultaneously anyway, and where the .jars aren't
intended for external use). I suppose it's a little neater.

Thanks,

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Re: request for bug filing on all packages uses /usr/share/java/repository

2002-01-04 Thread Ola Lundqvist

On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 11:43:54AM -0600, Colin Watson wrote:
> On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 07:28:19PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote:
> > Can I do the above?  It's just so crappily wrong to have this, it
> > should have never existed, the person(s) who thought it up should be
> > flambayed(sp).
> > 
> > I WANT to remove ALL traces of this from ALL packages, NOW.  It makes
> > building oh so difficult.
> 
> Amid all the arguments I've lost track of exactly why
> /usr/share/java/repository causes a problem for building things. Can
> somebody explain to me why it's worse than, say, /usr/include or
> /usr/lib?

The lack of versioning support is the problem. One other problem is that
the hader definition and implementation are located on the same place.
It is the same as if /usr/lib and /usr/include was located in the same
place.

Regards,

// Ola

> I've just converted jlex to using a .jar rather than the repository,
> anyway, although I can't really see any particular benefits one way or
> the other for a standalone program like this.
>
> -- 
> Colin Watson  [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> 
> 
> -- 
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Re: request for bug filing on all packages uses /usr/share/java/repository

2002-01-04 Thread Colin Watson

On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 07:12:29PM +0100, Ola Lundqvist wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 11:43:54AM -0600, Colin Watson wrote:
> > Amid all the arguments I've lost track of exactly why
> > /usr/share/java/repository causes a problem for building things. Can
> > somebody explain to me why it's worse than, say, /usr/include or
> > /usr/lib?
> 
> The lack of versioning support is the problem. One other problem is that
> the hader definition and implementation are located on the same place.
> It is the same as if /usr/lib and /usr/include was located in the same
> place.

OK. I now see why it applies to libraries, but don't see why it's a
benefit for standalone programs (where multiple versions can't be
installed via dpkg simultaneously anyway, and where the .jars aren't
intended for external use). I suppose it's a little neater.

Thanks,

-- 
Colin Watson  [[EMAIL PROTECTED]]


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