Re: about Woody ?

2002-09-24 Thread Adrian von Bidder 

On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 19:25, Julián Muñoz wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Tomasz Papszun wrote:
> 
> > Woody is stable for 2 months now! :-) .
> 
> Yes, I know. Sorry for my bad english ;-) (By the way, do you think it's
> enough 2 months ?)

woody is *released*. No further changes to it will be made, except
security fixes, and fixing very grave bugs.

Woody had a very long 'beta' testing period - the release was planned
much earlier but got delayed. So I would expect even more bugs got fixes
than usual.
 
> Well, I would like to evaluate the cost of transition. And also, I'd like
> to be sure when to change.

Going from potato to woody *is* a major upgrade, sure. Going from 3.0 to
3.0r1 will be very minor, probably on the same level as applying the
security upgrades. Besides, 3.0r1 will be just security upgrades and a
very small number of additional fixes, so waiting for 3.0r1 is probably
not worth it.

> 
> Potato is feature frozen, and I liked this really, because I need
> stability, and only fixes for the important bugs.
> What about Woody ?
> 
> > See  http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/
> > Of course we use it.
> 
> Sorry, it is not so obvious to me !  ( Ignorant I am :-)

If you have language problems, I hope you noticed that most debian pages
are available in many different languages, so it should really be clear.

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Re: about Woody ?

2002-09-24 Thread Adrian von Bidder 
On Mon, 2002-09-23 at 19:25, Julián Muñoz wrote:
> On Mon, 23 Sep 2002, Tomasz Papszun wrote:
> 
> > Woody is stable for 2 months now! :-) .
> 
> Yes, I know. Sorry for my bad english ;-) (By the way, do you think it's
> enough 2 months ?)

woody is *released*. No further changes to it will be made, except
security fixes, and fixing very grave bugs.

Woody had a very long 'beta' testing period - the release was planned
much earlier but got delayed. So I would expect even more bugs got fixes
than usual.
 
> Well, I would like to evaluate the cost of transition. And also, I'd like
> to be sure when to change.

Going from potato to woody *is* a major upgrade, sure. Going from 3.0 to
3.0r1 will be very minor, probably on the same level as applying the
security upgrades. Besides, 3.0r1 will be just security upgrades and a
very small number of additional fixes, so waiting for 3.0r1 is probably
not worth it.

> 
> Potato is feature frozen, and I liked this really, because I need
> stability, and only fixes for the important bugs.
> What about Woody ?
> 
> > See  http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/
> > Of course we use it.
> 
> Sorry, it is not so obvious to me !  ( Ignorant I am :-)

If you have language problems, I hope you noticed that most debian pages
are available in many different languages, so it should really be clear.

cheers
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PHP 4.3.x

2003-08-14 Thread Adrian von Bidder 
Yo!

Anyobdy here has preliminary packages of a recent PHP version? Self-compiling 
with all dependencies etc. etc. is somewhat tedious...

(Or, even better, Adam, you got news for us?)

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Re: Postfix! [WAS: Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..]

2003-09-05 Thread Adrian von Bidder 
On Friday 05 September 2003 13:45, Nico Meijer wrote:

> - wietse venema is [...] d) dutch

Taking into account that .nl is one of the major sources of spam right now 
(through a2000.nl and plant.nl), I'm not sure if this counts for or against 
using postfix.

-- vbi (Happy postfix user)

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attempted joke for serious: 

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Dovecot (was: Re: Sendmail or Qmail ? ..)

2003-09-08 Thread Adrian von Bidder 
On Monday 08 September 2003 14:41, mimo wrote:
> I have just played around with dovecot imap server. I can use your
> existing mail spool files. Also it allows for craetion of IMAP folders
> in users' home dirs which worries me a bit. I'd rather have the mailbox
> in MySQL or something like that. But that's a differnet discussion I guess.

Can you share your experiences? How does dovecot perform? Does it support SSL 
(I guess so since it depends on gnutls)? What configuration options does it 
have? I guess since it supports standard mailboxen, standard mail delivery 
via procmail can be used by default.

Yes, I'll do my own homework - but if people can give a recommendation pro or 
contra, I might have an idea where to set my hopes. (Ok, it should be an 
improvement over uw-imapd in any case ;-)

cheers
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Re: Dovecot

2003-09-08 Thread Adrian von Bidder 
Yo!

Thanks for a great review!

On Monday 08 September 2003 16:56, mimo wrote:

>   default_mail_env = mbox:/var/imap/mail/%d/%n/:INBOX=/var/mail/%u
> to have users' files at least in one directory tree and not split up all
> over the file system.
> Maybe this is the kind of configuration info you were asking for?

Yep, exactly. Coming from uw-imapd, this is exactly the kind of thing I was 
missing.

> ? not sure about what you asking about delievery via procmail. postfix
> leaves stuff in /var/mail/ and dovecot uses this. I guess you
> can have procmail in between.

From the description I was guessed so, but I wanted to be sure that no special 
delivery program is necessary, thanks.

(And - sorry, can't help you with an imap server with the mails in a 
relational db, I don't know of any solution that does this.)

greetings
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Re: Bayes filter at ISPs

2004-02-19 Thread Adrian von Bidder 
On Thursday 19 February 2004 13.09, Adam ENDRODI wrote:

> I'd like to ask how do you teach it to separate ham and spam
> correctly?  In particular, how do I select a representative set
> of ham and spam?  Is it a good idea to deploy bogofilter for an
> entire organization at all?

Run spamassassin and bogofilter in parallel for the first months, and use sa 
to train bogofilter?

I think separate databases per user are highly beneficial - some people hardly 
have any HTMl mail, for instance, others do - same with mail in foreign 
languages.

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Re: qmail or postfix? (was: RE: What is the best mailling list manager for qmail and Domain Tech. Control ?)

2004-02-20 Thread Adrian von Bidder 
[no cc:s necessary, thanks]
On Friday 20 February 2004 12.37, Craig Sanders wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 20, 2004 at 08:36:08AM +0100, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von 
Bidder wrote:

> > I guess the document was written years ago, when postfix did indeed lack
> > *some* of the features people did expect (one of them being the ability
> > to reject mail instead of bounce it ;-)
>
> actually, it is qmail and not postfix that can't 5xx reject mail.  qmail
> has to accept and bounce it.postfix has always been able to reject
> unwanted mail during the SMTP session (although the relay_recipient_maps
> option is a relatively recent addition for rejecting unknown relay
> recipient addresses).

Hmm. Weren't there some early postifx 1.x releases who did by default bounce 
on unknown users? Or was it something different? I seem to dimly remember 
some discussions about the possibility to bounce directly in the SMTP dialog 
instead of bouncing under some circumstances.

Anyway, the issue is of purely historic interest - today's postfix does of 
course reject mail quite early in most, if not all, cases where this is 
possible.

cheers
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Re: AW: Apache: adding massive amount of users for .htaccess from text file

2004-02-20 Thread Adrian von Bidder 
On Friday 20 February 2004 16.24, Erik Dörnbach wrote:
...

Hi,

Could you please avoid starting a new thread every time you reply to a 
message? 

Thanks
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Re: Is gray-listing a one-shot anti-spam measure?

2004-12-10 Thread Adrian von Bidder 
On Tuesday 07 December 2004 20.41, mimo wrote:
> Russell Coker wrote:
> >On Friday 03 December 2004 20:07, Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
> ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> >>(And - this to Stephen Frost, I believe - there is a patch to postgrey
> >>which I will include in the next version, and I believe which will also
> >> be included in the next upstream, to whitelist a client IP as soon as
> >> one greylisted email came through.  So the load on legitimate
> >> mailservers will be even smaller.)
> >
> >As has already been suggested it would be good to be able to configure
> > the number of messages that come through before the client IP is
> > white-listed.

> But I think the
> problem of this would be that initial messages would be even more
> delayed, depending on the sending server, than they are with normal
> one-shot greylisting.

I think you misunderstand Russel.  He does, afaict, not want the initial 
message be rejected multiple times, but he wants to see several messages 
coming through, with normal greylisting in effect, before the IP is 
whitelisted for all email.

greetings
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postgrey 1.17rc2 Debian packages

2004-12-13 Thread Adrian von Bidder 
Hi,

postgrey 1.17rc2 Debian packages are now available at 


(the 1.17~rc2 version number allows a seamless upgrade to the release 1.17 
in Debian.  Just don't worry about it.)

Posting this to the debian-isp mailing list because there was recent 
discussion about greylisting:  this release features the automatic 
whitelisting of a sending mailserver after a certain number of emails have 
come through the greylisting (option: --auto-whitelist-clients.)

(The package should be usable, but the logcheck files has not yet been 
updated.  Also, since this is not uploaded: please report bugs in the 
Debian packaging directly to me by email; problems with the postgrey 
program as such, especially the --auto-whitelist-clients function, to the 
postgrey mailing list.)


greetings
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Re: makejail and perl modules

2004-12-20 Thread Adrian von Bidder 
On Monday 20 December 2004 10.46, George Chelidze wrote:
> What is the easy way to put all required perl modules
> into chroot jail? I'd like to put minimal files there so

Never done it, so might not work, or might eat your cat.

strace  | grep open

should give you all necessary files.  Obviously - depending on how your cgi 
script works - you'll need to fake a CGI environment and pass HTTP POST 
data into stdin so that the cgi scripts actually starts to load all the 
libraries it will need.

cheers
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Re: [OT] Backup on DLT (recommandation)

2005-01-10 Thread Adrian von Bidder 
On Saturday 08 January 2005 17.46, Michelle Konzack wrote:
[Tapes]
> My only problem is that my purse is very limited
> to <=700 Euro.
>

If you believe their advertisement, Exabytes VXA tapes are a cost-effective 
solution, compared to other tape solutions.

I have no experience with them, I just thought I'd point you in that 
direction if you haven't investigated them yet.

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