Mondo and Debian
Hello all! I've been switching from Red Hat to Debian the last 6 months and have become very partial to Mondo Rescue -- mondorescue.org for backups. This and Debian do not seem to like each other too much What types of software do you use to run backups on Debian servers to create iso bootable images? or...Even better -- any one know how to tweak Debian and Mondo? Thanks! Christopher Davis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mondo and Debian
Christopher Davis wrote: Hello all! I've been switching from Red Hat to Debian the last 6 months and have become very partial to Mondo Rescue -- mondorescue.org for backups. This and Debian do not seem to like each other too much What types of software do you use to run backups on Debian servers to create iso bootable images? or...Even better -- any one know how to tweak Debian and Mondo? Thanks! Christopher Davis What exactly do you mean "do not seem to like each other too much"? Whilst I haven't tried these there are packages for this in stable and unstable, so one would image an "apt-get install mondo" would do the trick. Dave -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Starting isp and going to use Debian
Nicolas Rueff wrote: Anyway, my question is what software do most of you use? Obviously, we have decided to use Debian for our base os. However, what do most of you use for: 1. Webmail Imp. Works well. Really. I've had a lot of headaches with Imp. Imp relies on Horde being correctly setup. It seems that, every time I do an update of my packages to the latest .deb's, Imp and Horde break. I have to completely purge it, and re-install it... and that fixes it about half the time. The other half, I have to wait a few weeks for something to get fixed in Imp or Horde. Sometimes, it's a clear error, where I get an error page about how it can't find some .php file in its path. Other times (most of the time, lately), it just says that my username/password combination we wrong and it dumps me back to the login screen. When it works, however, it *is* cool... all the features you can set (you can restrict what IMAP servers the user can connect to, for example..). The newer Imp3 and Horde2 are even cooler, because Horde2 now has more cool PIM plugins, like the calendaring tool. However, like I said... it's broken most of the time on our servers. Instead, I direct our users to Squirrelmail. It's more basic... but that's its strength, I guess. Less chance to break. 2. Imap/pop access Courier, definitely. Virtual-user based conf. I use Courier, too. I like it because it's one-stop shopping. Courier has SMTP, secure-SMTP, SMTP authentication, POP, secure-POP, IMAP, and secure-IMAP. A world of difference from having to use, say, Exim for SMTP and UW-IMAP and UW-IMAP-SSL. - Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Starting isp and going to use Debian
On Sun, 22 Feb 2004 21:35, Joe Emenaker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've had a lot of headaches with Imp. Imp relies on Horde being > correctly setup. It seems that, every time I do an update of my packages > to the latest .deb's, Imp and Horde break. I have to completely purge > it, and re-install it... and that fixes it about half the time. The > other half, I have to wait a few weeks for something to get fixed in Imp > or Horde. I've found similar issues. One particular problem is the creation of the database account. I've had many problems related to databases. Imp/Horde depend on PostgreSQL with the default settings, PostgreSQL (in Debian at least) is significantly more difficult to install and manage than MySql. This difficulty isn't beneficial for Imp which in most cases does not have much importance to the database. Imp supports LDAP and MySQL as alternate methods of storing the data. -- http://www.coker.com.au/selinux/ My NSA Security Enhanced Linux packages http://www.coker.com.au/bonnie++/ Bonnie++ hard drive benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/postal/Postal SMTP/POP benchmark http://www.coker.com.au/~russell/ My home page -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mondo and Debian
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 04:14:29AM -0500, Christopher Davis wrote: > I've been switching from Red Hat to Debian the last 6 months > and have become very partial to Mondo Rescue -- > mondorescue.org for backups. This and Debian do not seem to > like each other too much > > What types of software do you use to run backups on Debian > servers to create iso bootable images? > > or...Even better -- any one know how to tweak Debian and > Mondo? > I've used amanda. Both on a disk and tape system. Works fine for me. j -- == + It's simply not | John Keimel+ + RFC1149 compliant!| [EMAIL PROTECTED]+ + | http://www.keimel.com + == pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: Mondo and Debian
Dave: > -Original Message- > From: Dave Watkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 5:18 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Mondo and Debian > > > Christopher Davis wrote: > > >Hello all! > > > >I've been switching from Red Hat to Debian the > last 6 months > >and have become very partial to Mondo Rescue -- > >mondorescue.org for backups. This and Debian do > not seem to > >like each other too much > > > >What types of software do you use to run backups > on Debian > >servers to create iso bootable images? > > > >or...Even better -- any one know how to tweak Debian and > >Mondo? > > > >Thanks! > >Christopher Davis > > > > > > > What exactly do you mean "do not seem to like > each other too much"? > > Whilst I haven't tried these there are packages > for this in stable and > unstable, so one would image an "apt-get install > mondo" would do the trick. > > Dave I have not been able to get the packages in stable to work -- they WILL create the backup, but on the restore will not restore the partition information correctly. The Mondo mail list requires usage of up-to-date software -- the stable version of Mondo is around 1.5 yrs old. In working with the unstable packages -- everything will backup great, but the boot cd's will not boot to run the restore programs. In correspondence with the Mondo list, easier compatibility with Debian is on the to-do list. In searching many mail list archives, I have found notes on 'it worked for me', but no such luck for info that would help get it rolling. Thanks! Christopher Davis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
How do you deploy a new system ?
Hi, What are you guys using to deploy new systems. In our env we are bringing up one system every other week. So far, we've been using Red Hat and Kickstart. We simply save the config on a floppy then boot from the CD and a few minutes later the system is ready without the endless Yes/No questions. BTW, I tried Mondo on the latest stable Woody-3.2 and it didn't seem to work i.e. I issued the command: $ mondoarchive -Oi -d /mnt/NFS/Images -E /mnt and it started doing something but then it never returned back (left it running for 4 hrs) to the prompt and there was no disk activity after the first 10 mins. I Ctrl-C'd it and never looked into it. FAI etc sound too complicated to setup. Anaconda port doesn't sound that great since you have to use a special kernel to make it work...from what I've heard ? We are just curious about the setups of other big ISP/University type environments since we're thinking of doing a swtich from RH to Debian. Thank You. __ Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do you deploy a new system ?
FAI is what we're using. mondo does work on debian, but you gotta make sure you dont' do anything 'dumb' -- its not super robust int he face of errors during image creation. --On Sunday, February 22, 2004 20:55 -0500 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, What are you guys using to deploy new systems. In our env we are bringing up one system every other week. So far, we've been using Red Hat and Kickstart. We simply save the config on a floppy then boot from the CD and a few minutes later the system is ready without the endless Yes/No questions. BTW, I tried Mondo on the latest stable Woody-3.2 and it didn't seem to work i.e. I issued the command: $ mondoarchive -Oi -d /mnt/NFS/Images -E /mnt and it started doing something but then it never returned back (left it running for 4 hrs) to the prompt and there was no disk activity after the first 10 mins. I Ctrl-C'd it and never looked into it. FAI etc sound too complicated to setup. Anaconda port doesn't sound that great since you have to use a special kernel to make it work...from what I've heard ? We are just curious about the setups of other big ISP/University type environments since we're thinking of doing a swtich from RH to Debian. Thank You. __ Introducing the New Netscape Internet Service. Only $9.95 a month -- Sign up today at http://isp.netscape.com/register Netscape. Just the Net You Need. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Michael Loftis Modwest Sr. Systems Administrator Powerful, Affordable Web Hosting -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Starting isp and going to use Debian
Nicolas Rueff wrote: Ainsi parla Chris Hoover le 52ème jour de l'an 2004: Me and some friends are looking into starting a local isp. My friends are networking experts with some linux experience and I am the linux expert with some networking experience. Anyway, my question is what software do most of you use? Obviously, we have decided to use Debian for our base os. However, what do most of you use for: 1. Webmail Imp. Works well. Really. 2. Imap/pop access Courier, definitely. Virtual-user based conf. 3. User management LDAP. 5. Drive usage control (i.e. user only get 10M for mail and 15M for web) Quota. Any other advice sould be appreciated. MTA: Postfix. I'll second his opinion on every point. And add the secure version of every protocol you offer, either natively or via stunnel. Plus, it may be good to have reiserfs and some sort of volume management layer (ie. LVM) preferably on hardware raid, to quickly increase (and maybe decrease?) storage on the boxes if needed, as well as as for allowing online hotswapping of damaged hard disks. This will increase the time the service goes uninterrupted and may even aid in structuring some service level agreements with your clients. Jose PS please reply to the list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How do you deploy a new system ?
Michael: > -Original Message- > From: Michael Loftis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 9:43 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: How do you deploy a new system ? > > > FAI is what we're using. mondo does work on > debian, but you gotta make > sure you dont' do anything 'dumb' -- its not > super robust int he face of > errors during image creation. [...] How did you get Mondo to work? Thanks! Christopher Davis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How do you deploy a new system ?
et the latest available stable from http://mondorescue.org/ -- make sure you satisfy its reqs, bzip2, afio, *NEWER* version of cdrecord (RH boxes have HUGE problems there), and some others i know i'm forgetting. There really isn't much of a trick to it. It doesn't do a great job looking at MD RAID and doesn't handle LVM at all. It also has trouble with 'odd' devices like the DAC960 /dev/rd/* stuff, it doesn't' always recognize them as valid devices. --On Sunday, February 22, 2004 22:19 -0500 Christopher Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Michael: -Original Message- From: Michael Loftis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 22, 2004 9:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How do you deploy a new system ? FAI is what we're using. mondo does work on debian, but you gotta make sure you dont' do anything 'dumb' -- its not super robust int he face of errors during image creation. [...] How did you get Mondo to work? Thanks! Christopher Davis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Michael Loftis Modwest Sr. Systems Administrator Powerful, Affordable Web Hosting -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Starting isp and going to use Debian
On Sun, Feb 22, 2004 at 12:38:47PM -0600, Jose Alberto wrote: > > Plus, it may be good to have reiserfs and some sort of volume > management layer (ie. LVM) preferably on hardware raid, to quickly Strange as it sounds, but I've noticed that LVM (kernel 2.4.22) also increased performance wrt reading. > increase (and maybe decrease?) storage on the boxes if needed, as well Well, to use LVM for this purpose, one should choice file system carefully as not all of them are shirnkable or expandable, not especially while they are mounted. > as as for allowing online hotswapping of damaged hard disks. This will > increase the time the service goes uninterrupted and may even aid in > structuring some service level agreements with your clients. Indeed, we've got "cheap" customers and "precious" ones who stay on the mirrored volumes :) bit, adam -- Am I a cleric? | 1024D/37B8D989 Or maybe a sinner? | 954B 998A E5F5 BA2A 3622 Unbeliever?| 82DD 54C2 843D 37B8 D989 Renegade? | http://sks.dnsalias.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
