Re: spews Was: seeking input on rbls and anti-spam measures
* Miroslav Zervan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030306 02:42] spake thusly: > Hello! > > I've got one question. What is your experience with relays.osirusoft.com, > especialy with the spews. > > On Monday my provider get on spews list. As far I know ISP terminated all > spammers and is still on the list. Due to strategy of spews (to include > inocent customers to force ISP solve the problem) on the list is all > range of IP (including mine). > > I've tried to read their forum, but I think they are too radical. I could not agree with you more. When we ended up on SPEWS some time ago, our request for removal degenerated into a flame war pages long with network operators blocking our address space because they "didn't like our attitude." As one of us remarked at the time, "I didn't realize that SPEWS required a PR expert." -mp -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Good qmail tutorial
Hi, I'm trying to setup a web and email server for our LUG. I've chosen qmail for my MTA. I'm having a rough time getting it configured though. There aren't too many tutorials around online on how to configure qmail, so I'm pretty much stuck on where to even start. :( Does anyone know of any good tutorials or HOWTOs that'll help me setup qmail under Debian Woody? I'm using the qmail-src package from Woody BTW. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good qmail tutorial
Blake Covarrubias wrote: Hi, I'm trying to setup a web and email server for our LUG. I've chosen qmail for my MTA. I'm having a rough time getting it configured though. There aren't too many tutorials around online on how to configure qmail, so I'm pretty much stuck on where to even start. :( Does anyone know of any good tutorials or HOWTOs that'll help me setup qmail under Debian Woody? I'm using the qmail-src package from Woody BTW. http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good qmail tutorial
Thanks Mark. I should have mentioned that I've already tried this tutorial, and my attempts to get email working have failed. :( I'm not sure what I've done wrong. On Sun, 2003-03-09 at 14:37, Mark Sprong wrote: > Blake Covarrubias wrote: > > Hi, I'm trying to setup a web and email server for our LUG. I've chosen > > qmail for my MTA. I'm having a rough time getting it configured though. > > There aren't too many tutorials around online on how to configure qmail, > > so I'm pretty much stuck on where to even start. :( Does anyone know of > > any good tutorials or HOWTOs that'll help me setup qmail under Debian > > Woody? I'm using the qmail-src package from Woody BTW. > > > > > http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good qmail tutorial
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 02:32:09PM -0700, Blake Covarrubias wrote: [ please don't top post ] > On Sun, 2003-03-09 at 14:37, Mark Sprong wrote: > > Blake Covarrubias wrote: > > > Hi, I'm trying to setup a web and email server for our LUG. I've chosen > > > qmail for my MTA. I'm having a rough time getting it configured though. > > > There aren't too many tutorials around online on how to configure qmail, > > > so I'm pretty much stuck on where to even start. :( Does anyone know of > > > any good tutorials or HOWTOs that'll help me setup qmail under Debian > > > Woody? I'm using the qmail-src package from Woody BTW. > > > > > > > > http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ > > Thanks Mark. I should have mentioned that I've already tried this > tutorial, and my attempts to get email working have failed. :( I'm not > sure what I've done wrong. No offense intended, but if you can't get qmail up and running after reading lifewithqmail.org, you probably ought to be running an MTA that's easier to configure. Debian installs exim by default; it's not too hard to get going. -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never tell people how to do things. Tell them WHAT to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity. -- Gen. George S. Patton, Jr. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Good qmail tutorial
LifeWithQmail.org does have a lot of information about setting up Qmail, but there's parts of it that I can't even get working. Here's the output of qmail-showctl. You can see below that I'm having some problems. qmail home directory: /var/qmail. user-ext delimiter: -. paternalism (in decimal): 2. silent concurrency limit: 120. subdirectory split: 23. user ids: 64010, 64011, 64015, 0, 64016, 64014, 64013, 64012. group ids: 65534, 64010. badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed. bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON. bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is bouncehost. concurrencylocal: (Default.) Local concurrency is 10. concurrencyremote: (Default.) Remote concurrency is 20. databytes: (Default.) SMTP DATA limit is 0 bytes. defaultdomain: (Default.) Default domain name is defaultdomain. defaulthost: (Default.) Default host name is defaulthost. doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: doublebouncehost. doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster. envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is envnoathost. helohost: (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is helohost. idhost: (Default.) Message-ID host name is idhost. localiphost: (Default.) Local IP address becomes localiphost. locals: (Default.) Messages for me are delivered locally. me: (Default.) My name is undefined! Uh-oh. percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed. plusdomain: (Default.) Plus domain name is plusdomain. qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers. queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in the queue is 604800 seconds. rcpthosts: SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at localhost. morercpthosts: (Default.) No effect. morercpthosts.cdb: (Default.) No effect. smtpgreeting: (Default.) SMTP greeting: 220 smtpgreeting. smtproutes: (Default.) No artificial SMTP routes. timeoutconnect: (Default.) SMTP client connection timeout is 60 seconds. timeoutremote: (Default.) SMTP client data timeout is 1200 seconds. timeoutsmtpd: (Default.) SMTP server data timeout is 1200 seconds. virtualdomains: Virtual domain: my.domain.com:my.domain.com users: I have no idea what this file does. rcpthosts.bak: I have no idea what this file does. virtualdomains.bak: I have no idea what this file does. defaultdelivery: I have no idea what this file does. concurrencyincoming: I have no idea what this file does. Search these file names on the qmail tutorial to see what they do.Also, here's a warning message I get when starting qmail. Starting qmail svc: warning: unable to control /service/qmail-send/log: file does not exist svc: warning: unable to control /service/qmail-smtpd/log: file does not exist On Sun, 2003-03-09 at 16:01, Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 02:32:09PM -0700, Blake Covarrubias wrote: > > [ please don't top post ] > > > On Sun, 2003-03-09 at 14:37, Mark Sprong wrote: > > > Blake Covarrubias wrote: > > > > Hi, I'm trying to setup a web and email server for our LUG. I've chosen > > > > qmail for my MTA. I'm having a rough time getting it configured though. > > > > There aren't too many tutorials around online on how to configure qmail, > > > > so I'm pretty much stuck on where to even start. :( Does anyone know of > > > > any good tutorials or HOWTOs that'll help me setup qmail under Debian > > > > Woody? I'm using the qmail-src package from Woody BTW. > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ > > > > Thanks Mark. I should have mentioned that I've already tried this > > tutorial, and my attempts to get email working have failed. :( I'm not > > sure what I've done wrong. > > No offense intended, but if you can't get qmail up and running after > reading lifewithqmail.org, you probably ought to be running an MTA > that's easier to configure. Debian installs exim by default; it's not > too hard to get going. > > -- > Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Never tell people how to do things. Tell them WHAT to do and > they will surprise you with their ingenuity. > -- Gen. George S. Patton, Jr. > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: spews Was: seeking input on rbls and anti-spam measures
* Miroslav Zervan ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [030306 02:42] spake thusly: > Hello! > > I've got one question. What is your experience with relays.osirusoft.com, > especialy with the spews. > > On Monday my provider get on spews list. As far I know ISP terminated all > spammers and is still on the list. Due to strategy of spews (to include > inocent customers to force ISP solve the problem) on the list is all > range of IP (including mine). > > I've tried to read their forum, but I think they are too radical. I could not agree with you more. When we ended up on SPEWS some time ago, our request for removal degenerated into a flame war pages long with network operators blocking our address space because they "didn't like our attitude." As one of us remarked at the time, "I didn't realize that SPEWS required a PR expert." -mp
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also sprach Michelle Konzack <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003.02.19.0024 +0100]: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] is there a replacement for this dead list? -- Please do not CC me when replying to lists; I read them! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do than fixing a system NOTE: The pgp.net keyservers and their mirrors are broken! Get my key here: http://people.debian.org/~madduck/gpg/330c4a75.asc pgp0zwYB7NDe1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Good qmail tutorial
Hi, I'm trying to setup a web and email server for our LUG. I've chosen qmail for my MTA. I'm having a rough time getting it configured though. There aren't too many tutorials around online on how to configure qmail, so I'm pretty much stuck on where to even start. :( Does anyone know of any good tutorials or HOWTOs that'll help me setup qmail under Debian Woody? I'm using the qmail-src package from Woody BTW.
Re: Good qmail tutorial
Blake Covarrubias wrote: Hi, I'm trying to setup a web and email server for our LUG. I've chosen qmail for my MTA. I'm having a rough time getting it configured though. There aren't too many tutorials around online on how to configure qmail, so I'm pretty much stuck on where to even start. :( Does anyone know of any good tutorials or HOWTOs that'll help me setup qmail under Debian Woody? I'm using the qmail-src package from Woody BTW. http://www.lifewithqmail.org/
Re: Good qmail tutorial
Thanks Mark. I should have mentioned that I've already tried this tutorial, and my attempts to get email working have failed. :( I'm not sure what I've done wrong. On Sun, 2003-03-09 at 14:37, Mark Sprong wrote: > Blake Covarrubias wrote: > > Hi, I'm trying to setup a web and email server for our LUG. I've chosen > > qmail for my MTA. I'm having a rough time getting it configured though. > > There aren't too many tutorials around online on how to configure qmail, > > so I'm pretty much stuck on where to even start. :( Does anyone know of > > any good tutorials or HOWTOs that'll help me setup qmail under Debian > > Woody? I'm using the qmail-src package from Woody BTW. > > > > > http://www.lifewithqmail.org/
Re: Good qmail tutorial
On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 02:32:09PM -0700, Blake Covarrubias wrote: [ please don't top post ] > On Sun, 2003-03-09 at 14:37, Mark Sprong wrote: > > Blake Covarrubias wrote: > > > Hi, I'm trying to setup a web and email server for our LUG. I've chosen > > > qmail for my MTA. I'm having a rough time getting it configured though. > > > There aren't too many tutorials around online on how to configure qmail, > > > so I'm pretty much stuck on where to even start. :( Does anyone know of > > > any good tutorials or HOWTOs that'll help me setup qmail under Debian > > > Woody? I'm using the qmail-src package from Woody BTW. > > > > > > > > http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ > > Thanks Mark. I should have mentioned that I've already tried this > tutorial, and my attempts to get email working have failed. :( I'm not > sure what I've done wrong. No offense intended, but if you can't get qmail up and running after reading lifewithqmail.org, you probably ought to be running an MTA that's easier to configure. Debian installs exim by default; it's not too hard to get going. -- Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Never tell people how to do things. Tell them WHAT to do and they will surprise you with their ingenuity. -- Gen. George S. Patton, Jr.
Re: Good qmail tutorial
LifeWithQmail.org does have a lot of information about setting up Qmail, but there's parts of it that I can't even get working. Here's the output of qmail-showctl. You can see below that I'm having some problems. qmail home directory: /var/qmail. user-ext delimiter: -. paternalism (in decimal): 2. silent concurrency limit: 120. subdirectory split: 23. user ids: 64010, 64011, 64015, 0, 64016, 64014, 64013, 64012. group ids: 65534, 64010. badmailfrom: (Default.) Any MAIL FROM is allowed. bouncefrom: (Default.) Bounce user name is MAILER-DAEMON. bouncehost: (Default.) Bounce host name is bouncehost. concurrencylocal: (Default.) Local concurrency is 10. concurrencyremote: (Default.) Remote concurrency is 20. databytes: (Default.) SMTP DATA limit is 0 bytes. defaultdomain: (Default.) Default domain name is defaultdomain. defaulthost: (Default.) Default host name is defaulthost. doublebouncehost: (Default.) 2B recipient host: doublebouncehost. doublebounceto: (Default.) 2B recipient user: postmaster. envnoathost: (Default.) Presumed domain name is envnoathost. helohost: (Default.) SMTP client HELO host name is helohost. idhost: (Default.) Message-ID host name is idhost. localiphost: (Default.) Local IP address becomes localiphost. locals: (Default.) Messages for me are delivered locally. me: (Default.) My name is undefined! Uh-oh. percenthack: (Default.) The percent hack is not allowed. plusdomain: (Default.) Plus domain name is plusdomain. qmqpservers: (Default.) No QMQP servers. queuelifetime: (Default.) Message lifetime in the queue is 604800 seconds. rcpthosts: SMTP clients may send messages to recipients at localhost. morercpthosts: (Default.) No effect. morercpthosts.cdb: (Default.) No effect. smtpgreeting: (Default.) SMTP greeting: 220 smtpgreeting. smtproutes: (Default.) No artificial SMTP routes. timeoutconnect: (Default.) SMTP client connection timeout is 60 seconds. timeoutremote: (Default.) SMTP client data timeout is 1200 seconds. timeoutsmtpd: (Default.) SMTP server data timeout is 1200 seconds. virtualdomains: Virtual domain: my.domain.com:my.domain.com users: I have no idea what this file does. rcpthosts.bak: I have no idea what this file does. virtualdomains.bak: I have no idea what this file does. defaultdelivery: I have no idea what this file does. concurrencyincoming: I have no idea what this file does. Search these file names on the qmail tutorial to see what they do.Also, here's a warning message I get when starting qmail. Starting qmail svc: warning: unable to control /service/qmail-send/log: file does not exist svc: warning: unable to control /service/qmail-smtpd/log: file does not exist On Sun, 2003-03-09 at 16:01, Nathan E Norman wrote: > On Sun, Mar 09, 2003 at 02:32:09PM -0700, Blake Covarrubias wrote: > > [ please don't top post ] > > > On Sun, 2003-03-09 at 14:37, Mark Sprong wrote: > > > Blake Covarrubias wrote: > > > > Hi, I'm trying to setup a web and email server for our LUG. I've chosen > > > > qmail for my MTA. I'm having a rough time getting it configured though. > > > > There aren't too many tutorials around online on how to configure qmail, > > > > so I'm pretty much stuck on where to even start. :( Does anyone know of > > > > any good tutorials or HOWTOs that'll help me setup qmail under Debian > > > > Woody? I'm using the qmail-src package from Woody BTW. > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.lifewithqmail.org/ > > > > Thanks Mark. I should have mentioned that I've already tried this > > tutorial, and my attempts to get email working have failed. :( I'm not > > sure what I've done wrong. > > No offense intended, but if you can't get qmail up and running after > reading lifewithqmail.org, you probably ought to be running an MTA > that's easier to configure. Debian installs exim by default; it's not > too hard to get going. > > -- > Nathan Norman - Incanus Networking mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Never tell people how to do things. Tell them WHAT to do and > they will surprise you with their ingenuity. > -- Gen. George S. Patton, Jr. >
