Re: New translation coordinator for Icelandic
On 13/09/2005, at 3:25 AM, David Geirsson wrote: The new language process for Icelandic is just about complete, so translation will start soon. I will take the role of language coordinator, and try to find more people interested in translating. Anyway, on a less formal note, my name is Davíð, I'm 20 years old and I live in Reykjavík. I study electronics at a local college. Although this is the first time I take an active role in the debian project, I have been a user for around four years now. Velkomin Davíð! It's great to have the Icelandic language in Debian! The wonderful thing about the Net in general, and translation projects in particular, is that we can share our languages and cultures so easily from parts of the world as distant as yours and mine. :) "Debian speaks your language." :) We should have a T-shirt made. Do we have a webpage yet, where we say that in all our different languages? That would be fun, as well as giving any browser's Unicode support a good workout. ;) Good luck with everything, Davíð, especially your study, your Debian system and the Icelandic Team! from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm Việt hóa phần mềm tự do) http://groups-beta.google.com/group/vi-VN
Providing context (was: Re: Limping on with GIMP)
On 13/09/2005, at 5:33 PM, Vincent Untz wrote: On Tue, September 13, 2005 06:45, Clytie Siddall wrote: BTW, if someone wants to add some translator comments to the GIMP source code to reduce ambiguity of such strings, I'd very much welcome such an effort and would take care of applying such a patch as fast as possible. Is this really our responsibility? I'm interested. I'd say it's the responsability of the maintainers and the translators: the maintainers might not know/think that one particular string is difficult to translate. However, it's true that maintainers probably have a better idea of what should be written in the comments... Thanks, Vincent, that helps clarify it for me. There's a current thread on the TP list about the context issue in general, and it brought up _how_ we as translators could add to contextual information for each other, as our part of this responsibility. (The maintainer part being up to them, although we might be able to have useful input.) We really need a way for the comments we _can_ input to be picked up when the main file is updated, and then passed out with all the updated PO files. Could this be done by adapting any of the l10n scripts currently in action? For example, I finally work out what: msgid "S" means, and input my comment: # This stands for Silly String, and appears in the Strange Menu msgid "S" msgstr "Chuỗi ngớ ngẩn" and upload the file. Next time the original file is updated, a script is run which collects all current comments from the PO files, then makes sure each PO file has all the comments (a variant on msgmerge?). One could imagine a large total of comments, but certainly to start out with, it would provide the translator with some information in the PO file, not having to hunt it up anywhere else, and allow us to help each other out, not duplicate effort. Is this at all doable? from Clytie (vi-VN, Vietnamese free-software translation team / nhóm Việt hóa phần mềm tự do) http://groups-beta.google.com/group/vi-VN
Re: New translation coordinator for Icelandic
> > The new language process for Icelandic is just about complete, so > > translation will start soon. I will take the role of language > > coordinator, and try to find more people interested in translating. Probably there are efforts around; one should avoid splitting teams without colaborating, we have this ciurrently in Romania, and is not good at all (we intend to fix this soon) > > Anyway, on a less formal note, my name is Davíð, I'm 20 years old > > and I live in Reykjavík. I study electronics at a local college. > > Although this is the first time I take an active role in the debian > > project, I have been a user for around four years now. Welcome and good luck! > "Debian speaks your language." :) > > We should have a T-shirt made. Do we have a webpage yet, where we say > that in all our different languages? We can add it to the wiki ;-) I have just added the page to the Wiki: http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianSpeaksYourLanguage > That would be fun, as well as giving any browser's Unicode support a > good workout. ;) Please add your translation ;-) -- Regards, EddyP = "Imagination is more important than knowledge" A.Einstein
Re: New translation coordinator for Icelandic
Quoting Eddy Petrişor ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > The new language process for Icelandic is just about complete, so > > > translation will start soon. I will take the role of language > > > coordinator, and try to find more people interested in translating. > > Probably there are efforts around; one should avoid splitting teams > without colaborating, we have this ciurrently in Romania, and is not > good at all (we intend to fix this soon) Well, the "around" for Iceland is really small..:-) (in terms of number of people) I already pointed David to the early discussions that took place in debian-user-icelandic about Debian translations. Up to now, the interest to translate the installer in Icelandic was not that high because many Icelandic geeks share the unfortunately common feeling that, as most of the people in their country speak English, this is not needed (which is a complete mistake if one thinks way far ahead from the geeky communityeven people with good skills in a foreign language want to use tools in their *native* language). I guess there is some l10n effort for end-user applications in Icelandic, but David is probably aware of this...or will soon contact some of them anyway. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Providing context (was: Re: Limping on with GIMP)
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 06:07:17PM +0930, Clytie Siddall wrote: [...] > We really need a way for the comments we _can_ input to be picked up > when the main file is updated, and then passed out with all the > updated PO files. Could this be done by adapting any of the l10n > scripts currently in action? I disagree, if translators believe that comments should be added, they talk to developers and such comments are added to sources and automatically merged into PO files afterwards. With your solution, you cannot know who made these comments, and what happens if several people add comments in different PO files at the same time? > One could imagine a large total of comments, but > certainly to start out with, it would provide the translator with > some information in the PO file, not having to hunt it up anywhere > else, and allow us to help each other out, not duplicate effort. This can also be achieved by adding a comments.po file which is hand edited by translators if they want to add comments before they reach sources. I believe that it is pretty useless, but we could give it a try. Denis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
