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Re: Asking for a new pseudo package in the BTS: l10n-french
On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 12:47:59AM +0100, Michael Bramer wrote: [...] > Owners: debconf/frontend >What is 'Owners'? This is the list of questions bound to this template. >It must be in the file (or you get: "Can't call >method "clearall" on an undefined value at >/usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Template.pm line 150") >It is all the time equal with 'Name'? Not necessarily (see eg. console-data) > - The debconf dat file don't need the english text. This is IMHO a big >problem. Not only for us. You get all the time the text from the >stack top db! [...] This is why I wrote Yes it works out of the box if your localized templates.dat files are up to date. There are issues when text changes, but IMO they are not very important, because with this scheme you can translate all debconf templates during the freeze. But I do not know if the DDTP can be used for distributions different than unstable. Denis
Re: Asking for a new pseudo package in the BTS: l10n-french
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 11:41:56AM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: > On Sun, Feb 16, 2003 at 12:47:59AM +0100, Michael Bramer wrote: > [...] > > Owners: debconf/frontend > >What is 'Owners'? > > This is the list of questions bound to this template. > > >It must be in the file (or you get: "Can't call > >method "clearall" on an undefined value at > >/usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Template.pm line 150") > >It is all the time equal with 'Name'? > > Not necessarily (see eg. console-data) But this is a problem. The ddtp server don't know this information... Have someone a solution? > > - The debconf dat file don't need the english text. This is IMHO a big > >problem. Not only for us. You get all the time the text from the > >stack top db! > [...] > > This is why I wrote >Yes it works out of the box if your localized templates.dat files >are up to date. The templates.dat is normal uptodate. But maybe someone install some older or private packages... > There are issues when text changes, but IMO they are not very important, > because with this scheme you can translate all debconf templates during > the freeze. But I do not know if the DDTP can be used for distributions > different than unstable. The server know the templates from sid, sarge and woody. It can produce templates.dat files/packages for all this distributions... Gruss Grisu -- Michael Bramer - a Debian Linux Developer http://www.debsupport.de PGP: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Linux Sysadmin -- Use Debian Linux Free Software is like sex: You don't know what you're missing until you've tried it. pgp5cQFLzOMQr.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Hello. I want us to really decide on how i18n is going to work in d-i since it's something that may cause big design changes. There are several things that need translating: - Debconf templates. These are not a problem, we happily use po-debconf for this and everything is UTF-8 and great. - Dynamically generated menus. I can think of three right now. 1. The main menu 2. anna's retriever question 3. anna's module selection question - Other random strings. The partitioning/mkfs/mounting tools need to be friendlier, they can't just spit out strings like "/dev/discs/disc0/part1" without explanation. How will these strings be translated? There is support in main-menu for using Description-LL fields from the control files in order to do i18n but it is largely untested since we don't really have any translated control files yet. anna could do the same thing, for both questions. Is this a good way to do it? Does this mean putting UTF-8 stuff in the control files? Can we integrate it with po-debconf? How do we make it easy for translators? All things in a package that can be translated should be collected in one place, making it as easy as possible for translators. Can we use DDTP, grisu? How do we build our packages so they will automatically get the latest translations of everything? As usual, I've probably missed something, but I really want some discussion going. /Martin signature.asc Description: Detta =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=E4r?= en digitalt signerad meddelandedel
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Re: Asking for a new pseudo package in the BTS: l10n-french
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 12:17:35PM +0100, Michael Bramer wrote: [...] > But this is a problem. The ddtp server don't know this information... > Have someone a solution? Right, I misunderstood your point. Putting localized databases after the debconf one seems to be a much better solution, you then can skip all unwanted fields. The only problem is that outdated localized fields cannot be overwritten, but I guess we can live with that. Denis
Re: Asking for a new pseudo package in the BTS: l10n-french
On Wed, Feb 19, 2003 at 08:29:52PM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: > Putting localized databases after the debconf one seems to be a much > better solution, you then can skip all unwanted fields. How can we make this? Gruss Grisu -- Michael Bramer - a Debian Linux Developer http://www.debsupport.de PGP: finger [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Linux Sysadmin -- Use Debian Linux Falls Ihr Rechner zu oft blau macht ist es Zeit auf Linux umzusteigen. pgpCWRm9Uz9GW.pgp Description: PGP signature
