Re: status update LT 2003 CD

2003-06-10 Thread Martin Schulze
Sven Hoexter wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 09, 2003 at 08:04:33AM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote:
> > Stefan Gybas wrote:
> > > Here is my list:
> > > 
> > > # Blackdown JDK
> > > deb ftp://ftp.gwdg.de/pub/languages/java/linux/debian woody main non-free
> >
> > 
> > I believe we should only distribute software which is considerably
> > free.  One of the requirements for additional packages for the Knoppix
> > DVD is that the software needs to be free.  It would be real ashaming
> > if the Knoppix DVD would only contain free software and the Debian CD
> > made of the Debian Team would contain non-free software.
> What do you think about Christian Marillats packages? He includes acrobat
> reader wich might be usefull but is non-free and on the other side we
> include a recent version of xpdf.

When they are free, they're fine.  When they are not, we should not
distribute them.  For example, we must not distribute the dll's he
collected to provide codecs.

Acrobat should not be included.  xpdf should be fine, though.

Regards,

Joey

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Re: status update LT 2003 CD

2003-06-10 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include 
* Martin Schulze [Tue, Jun 10 2003, 07:42:47AM]:

> Acrobat should not be included.  xpdf should be fine, though.

Here we disagree, xpdf is not always fine.

However, Acroread must not be included when we add anything writting PDF
files to the media (say, Ghostscript).

MfG,
Eduard.
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LinuxTag -> Debcamp/Debconf car trip.

2003-06-10 Thread Sven Luther
Hello, 

I am going to attend both LinuxTag and Debconf, furthermore, i am going
to go from LinuxTag to Debcamp by car. I will leave Karlsruhe to
Frederiskavhn or Hirstals by car, and then take the ferry to oslo there
or something such. My car is a peugeot 306, but not a diesel, and the
trip would be 1000 to 1200 km per car, so i expect to use two full
tanks, or around 100 Euros gazoline. Furthermore, the ferry should cost
175 Euros per car (upto 5 persons). 4 can travel confortabily but 5
people would be ok too.

On the way back, i will be able to go only upto Bremen or Hannover or
thereabout though.

So, if anyone is interested, please tell me, so we can plan this out, i
think i have already one place occupied though.

Friendly,

Sven Luther




Northern Europe travel info

2003-06-10 Thread Enrico Zini
Hello.

In order to organize trips to Oslo, I'm looking for some informations
about traveling in northern Europe.  Here are some questions:

About Denmark, Sweden and Norway:

 - Are there toll roads?  If yes, how much do they cost?
 - Are there crossing fees for some special places?  (bridges,
   ferries, tunnels, cities, national boundaries...)
 - How much do petrol (benzin) and gasoline (diesel) cost per liter?

 - What is the best way to cross from Denmark to Norway (or Sweden) ?
 - Is there some crossing route that is both cheap and does not require
   booking in large advance?
 - About the Malmö bridge, how much does it cost?  And how much does it
   cost to arrive in Copenhagen, since it would require taking a ferry
   to cross the sea to the island where Copenhagen is located?

About Germany:

 - I heard of a Deutsche Bahn Schönste Wochenende Ticket that offers
   miracle fares when travelling during the week end.  Could someone
   give more info, like:
- How much does it cost
- Where do you buy it
- What can you do with it
- How many people can travel with it
- What is its range of validity
- What people do usually use it for

 From the voices I heard about it it would be worth considering buying
such a ticket in group to move from Karlsruhe to Kiel and then cross by
ferry without a car.


I'd be grateful for any useful informations you might be able to give
me.


Ciao,

Enrico

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Re: Northern Europe travel info

2003-06-10 Thread Tobias Wolter
On 2003-06-10T22:09:33+0200 (Tuesday), Enrico Zini wrote:

>  - I heard of a Deutsche Bahn Schönste Wochenende Ticket that offers
>miracle fares when travelling during the week end.  Could someone
>give more info, like:
> - How much does it cost
> - Where do you buy it
> - What can you do with it
> - How many people can travel with it
> - What is its range of validity
> - What people do usually use it for

Happy-Weekend-Ticket

For up to 5 persons traveling together and for parents traveling with
their children aged 18 and under on Saturdays or Sundays between 12
a.m. until 3 a.m. of the following day for only EUR 28,-. Valid on all
local trains, 2nd class only.

http://www.bahn.de/pv/int_guest/offers/pv2_offers_national.shtml#1

Should be available everywhere where the DB sells tickets.

And is usually used for groups to travel somewhere or when you've got
time and the normal ticket is too expensive when planning a weekend
trip.

>  From the voices I heard about it it would be worth considering buying
> such a ticket in group to move from Karlsruhe to Kiel and then cross by
> ferry without a car.

If it's weekend. But it might take you some time to get there...

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