Bug#1020928: marked as done (pam-python: Python2 removal in sid/bullseye)
Your message dated Mon, 24 Oct 2022 21:34:34 + with message-id and subject line Bug#1020928: fixed in debian-edu-config 2.12.24 has caused the Debian Bug report #1020928, regarding pam-python: Python2 removal in sid/bullseye to be marked as done. This means that you claim that the problem has been dealt with. If this is not the case it is now your responsibility to reopen the Bug report if necessary, and/or fix the problem forthwith. (NB: If you are a system administrator and have no idea what this message is talking about, this may indicate a serious mail system misconfiguration somewhere. Please contact ow...@bugs.debian.org immediately.) -- 1020928: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1020928 Debian Bug Tracking System Contact ow...@bugs.debian.org with problems --- Begin Message --- Package: src:pam-python Version: 1.0.6-1.1 Severity: normal Tags: sid bullseye User: debian-pyt...@lists.debian.org Usertags: py2removal Python2 becomes end-of-live upstream, and Debian aims to remove Python2 from the distribution, as discussed in https://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2019/07/msg00080.html Your package either build-depends, depends on Python2, or uses Python2 in the autopkg tests. Please stop using Python2, and fix this issue by one of the following actions. - Convert your Package to Python3. This is the preferred option. In case you are providing a Python module foo, please consider dropping the python-foo package, and only build a python3-foo package. Please don't drop Python2 modules, which still have reverse dependencies, just document them. This is the preferred option. - If the package is dead upstream, cannot be converted or maintained in Debian, it should be removed from the distribution. If the package still has reverse dependencies, raise the severity to "serious" and document the reverse dependencies with the BTS affects command. If the package has no reverse dependencies, confirm that the package can be removed, reassign this issue to ftp.debian.org, make sure that the bug priority is set to normal and retitle the issue to "RM: PKG -- removal triggered by the Python2 removal". - If the package has still many users (popcon >= 300), or is needed to build another package which cannot be removed, document that by adding the "py2keep" user tag (not replacing the py2remove tag), using the debian-pyt...@lists.debian.org user. Also any dependencies on an unversioned python package (python, python-dev) must not be used, same with the python shebang. These have to be replaced by python2/python2.7 dependencies and shebang. This is the least preferred option. If the conversion or removal needs action on another package first, please document the blocking by using the BTS affects command, like affects + src:pam-python If there is no py2removal bug for that reverse-dependency, please file a bug on this package (similar to this bug report). If there are questions, please refer to the wiki page for the removal: https://wiki.debian.org/Python/2Removal, or ask for help on IRC #debian-python, or the debian-pyt...@lists.debian.org mailing list. --- End Message --- --- Begin Message --- Source: debian-edu-config Source-Version: 2.12.24 Done: Holger Levsen We believe that the bug you reported is fixed in the latest version of debian-edu-config, which is due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive. A summary of the changes between this version and the previous one is attached. Thank you for reporting the bug, which will now be closed. If you have further comments please address them to 1020...@bugs.debian.org, and the maintainer will reopen the bug report if appropriate. Debian distribution maintenance software pp. Holger Levsen (supplier of updated debian-edu-config package) (This message was generated automatically at their request; if you believe that there is a problem with it please contact the archive administrators by mailing ftpmas...@ftp-master.debian.org) -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2022 23:28:55 +0200 Source: debian-edu-config Architecture: source Version: 2.12.24 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Debian Edu Developers Changed-By: Holger Levsen Closes: 1020928 Changes: debian-edu-config (2.12.24) unstable; urgency=medium . [ Mike Gabriel ] * debian/control: + Change D (d-e-c) on libpam-python to a versioned dependency (>= 1.1.0~git20220701.1d4e111-0.3~). Starting with this version, libpam-python has fully been ported to Python3. (Closes: #1020928). Checksums-Sha1: 7f2305c72e97d5f7dfa7448db826d15f838f879d 2026 debian-edu-config_2.12.24.dsc 8b63be54399dee7feb7e587a56c9d5e564f222b9 352480 debian-edu-config_2.12.24.tar.xz b6e11d50387f9797bccd513f208ca16b66088ffe 5911 debian-edu-config_2.12.24_source.buildinfo Checksums-Sha256: fdc64d098c67828c3ac5e1bb5e496a8cbf85b028f616f084a1e3a3c1c007a139 2026 debian-edu-confi
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Re: Testing DebianEdu
Hi Dashamir, sorry for the late reply! and while I was thinking about some emails from you I still want to answer I realized I should ask you, whether you know about IRC and the #debian-edu channel on irc.debian.org? https://webchat.oftc.net/?channels=#debian-edu is an easy way to connect with a webbrowser, though I'd recommend a native client :) I usually reply more quickly on IRC, if I can contribute... On Fri, Sep 30, 2022 at 09:17:37PM +0200, Dashamir Hoxha wrote: > and, are you testing Debian Edu bullseye or bookworm? > > > bullseye > > The aim of this testing is to get used with DebianEdu, and to teach an > online course about it (which is going to be announced soon). So, I guess > that the latest stable version is more suitable. ok, that's very cool and a sensible approach and we definitly can use more testers and more tutorials for stable! https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Status/Bullseye and https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Bullseye are the main sources to document the status and everything else about Bullseye. > Do you think we should use bookworm? well, yes, no, maybe ;D If you are not familar with Debian Edu it's definitly better to first make you familar with it, using a stable release. And then, Debian Edu definitly needs more helping hands, in general, but also for the maintenance of the current stable release (see URLs above and please also file Debian bugs where appropriate ;) and especially also for developing and testing and documenting the next release, which goes by these URLs: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Status/Bookworm and https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Bookworm :) Currently Debian Edu Bookworm is broken though, because of https://bugs.debian.org/1003694 "gosa: completly broken in bookworm, breaking debian-edu" Fixing that requires someone knowing how to port PHP apps from php 7.4 to 8.x - do you happen to know someone who knows how to do that or has time and skills to learn this? ;) -- cheers, Holger ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ OpenPGP: B8BF54137B09D35CF026FE9D 091AB856069AAA1C ⠈⠳⣄ All data, over time, approaches deleted, or public. (@quinnnorton) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Getting started with DebianEdu
Hi Dashamir, On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 12:31:16PM +0200, Dashamir Hoxha wrote: > I have published a screen recording that shows how to get started with > DebianEdu: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbHrmBl7d20 \o/, nice! > Please let me know your objections. Is it too long? Is it boring? Is it low > quality of recording? Is the explanation not clear and confusing? Is it > useless? these are quite some many questions ;) I can definitly answer the first one for me, 1:22h is too long ;-D And then, for the next questions, I guess I'm not the right audience. (Though honestly, the length made me stop it after a minute :/ I definitly dont think it's useless! I definitly think there's an audience for tutorial videos about Debian Edu, i just know -edu well & don't like video tutorials cause I prefer to read stuff, so I stopped watching as I did. (:/) That said, I think it would help, if you'd start the video with a short intro and split it into severals: - hi, I'm Dashamir (some bits about you, why you are doing this, something like this - and this can be really short, like 5s) - this is a short series about Debian Edu, showing $this and $that (or whatever you do in the video(s) ;) - in this video, part X of Y, i will show you in 10-15min (or less) $this_aspect. (if splitting into shorter topics makes sense..) Thanks for sharing and for testing Debian Edu like this! 👍 -- cheers, Holger ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ OpenPGP: B8BF54137B09D35CF026FE9D 091AB856069AAA1C ⠈⠳⣄ We need to learn to live with cholera. What is the alternative? Breaking up all streets, building drainage with toilets in every building? (@tadeas_) signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Online training about DebianEdu
On Wed, Oct 05, 2022 at 07:34:48AM +0200, Dashamir Hoxha wrote: > The last lesson is about some development topics. Can someone help with > this part? Or should I leave it out of this course? Any other suggestions > about the topics/outline? Very brief: Debian Edu is Debian. And as everything in Debian, Debian Edu on the technical level is defined by the packages we maintain, which mainly are the ones listed here: https://udd.debian.org/dmd.cgi?email1=debian-edu%40lists.debian.org Relevant bugs in our packages: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?maint=debian-edu%40lists.debian.org Plus, to communicate, we have this very mailing list and the #debian-edu IRC channel on irc.debian.org. -- cheers, Holger ⢀⣴⠾⠻⢶⣦⠀ ⣾⠁⢠⠒⠀⣿⡁ holger@(debian|reproducible-builds|layer-acht).org ⢿⡄⠘⠷⠚⠋⠀ OpenPGP: B8BF54137B09D35CF026FE9D 091AB856069AAA1C ⠈⠳⣄ "I became an antifascist out of a sense of common decency.” – Marlene Dietrich signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Testing DebianEdu
On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 12:24 AM Holger Levsen wrote: > I should ask you, whether you know about > IRC and the #debian-edu channel on irc.debian.org? > I know about IRC, but I am against using it, in principle. It never worked for me in the past anyway. Maybe you want to tell me something which you cannot share in the public, but I'd like to rely only on the information that is available publicly. Otherwise I don't see how IRC can be more useful or effective, compared to other means of communication. With email you have at least the opportunity to answer months later (after your vacations are over). > Do you think we should use bookworm? > > well, yes, no, maybe ;D > > If you are not familar with Debian Edu it's definitly better to first make > you familar with it, using a stable release. > > Currently Debian Edu Bookworm is broken though, because of > https://bugs.debian.org/1003694 > "gosa: completly broken in bookworm, breaking debian-edu" > This is a strong reason not to use bookwork for learning/training. I found it difficult even when everything works correctly (in bullseye); with a broken gosa it would have been impossible for me to learn how to use it. Fixing that requires someone knowing how to port PHP apps from php 7.4 > to 8.x - do you happen to know someone who knows how to do that or has > time and skills to learn this? ;) > Maybe this can be a good project for GSoC. Debian participates there regularly, so it is almost guaranteed that this project would be accepted. As a workaround, is it possible to install in debian-edu the php7.4, instead of the latest one (or besides it)? This would allow GOsa to work, until it is fixed. I have to install many web applications on my server and they all have conflicting requirements about the tools that they use and their versions (for example one of them needs php7.4 and another needs php8.x). For this reason I install each of them in a Docker container, so that they can be isolated from each-other, and they don't step on the toes of each-other. I am not sure whether using Docker containers in DebianEdu is an option. If it was, I might try to containerize GOsa, so that its old dependencies don't affect the rest of the system. Regards, Dashamir
Re: Getting started with DebianEdu
On Tue, Oct 25, 2022 at 12:43 AM Holger Levsen wrote: > > these are quite some many questions ;) I can definitly answer the first one > for me, 1:22h is too long ;-D > > And then, for the next questions, I guess I'm not the right audience. > (Though honestly, the length made me stop it after a minute :/ > > I definitly dont think it's useless! I definitly think there's an audience > for tutorial videos about Debian Edu, i just know -edu well & don't like > video tutorials cause I prefer to read stuff, so I stopped watching as I > did. (:/) > Thanks for your comments. Criticism is better than no answer at all (because I know after all that my work is not perfect). However don't expect me to take your suggestions seriously if you did not even watch the video. (:/) Regards, Dashamir
