Re: (nl) Some more translations
On 09/05/2019 21:40, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: > Hi Frans, > > On Thu, May 09, 2019 at 08:29:24PM +0200, Frans Spiesschaert wrote: >> Please find attached a Dutch translation for the >> Debian Edu / Skolelinux homepage and for the >> Debian Edu buster release announcement. >> >> Since I'm not a member of the Debian blends team nor of the Debian >> publicity team, I'm not in a position to commit them all by myself. > > Thanks a lot for your work! Both translations committed. > > And thanks to your work on debian-edu-doc also localized images (Desktop > and Network) are available on the Dutch page: > https://blends.debian.org/edu/index.nl.html > > Wolfgang > Hi Wolfgang and Frans, I couldn't resist looking at it and I hope I improved some if the translations in the process.. (see attached) Cheers /Simon # Translation file for Debian Pure Blends edu-website. # Copyright (C) YEAR Debian Pure Blends Team debian-ble...@lists.debian.org # This file is distributed under the same license as the edu-website package. # FIRST AUTHOR , YEAR. # Frans Spiesschaert , 2019. # msgid "" msgstr "" "Project-Id-Version: edu-website 0.1.0\n" "Report-Msgid-Bugs-To: debian-edu@lists.debian.org\n" "POT-Creation-Date: 2019-04-28 23:52+0200\n" "PO-Revision-Date: 2019-05-10 09:47+0200\n" "Last-Translator: Frans Spiesschaert \n" "Language-Team: Debian Dutch l10n Team \n" "Language: nl\n" "MIME-Version: 1.0\n" "Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8\n" "Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit\n" "Plural-Forms: nplurals=2; plural=(n != 1);\n" "X-Generator: Poedit 2.0.6\n" #. type: Attribute 'lang' of: #: index.en.html:2 msgid "en" msgstr "nl" #. type: Content of: #: index.en.html:4 msgid "Debian Edu Pure Blend" msgstr "Specifieke uitgave van Debian (Debian Edu Pure Blend)" #. type: Content of: #: index.en.html:15 msgid "https://www.debian.org/\"; title=\"Debian Home\">" msgstr "https://www.debian.org/\"; title=\"Debian Home\">" #. type: Attribute 'alt' of: #: index.en.html:16 msgid "Debian" msgstr "Debian" #. type: Content of: #: index.en.html:16 index.en.html:37 msgid "" msgstr "" #. type: Content of: #: index.en.html:18 msgid "Pure Blend" msgstr "Specifieke uitgave (Pure Blend)" #. type: Content of: #: index.en.html:22 msgid "https://blends.debian.org/edu/tasks\";>Meta-Packages" msgstr "https://blends.debian.org/edu/tasks\";>Metapakketten" #. type: Content of: #: index.en.html:23 msgid "https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu\";>Wiki" msgstr "https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu\";>Wiki" #. type: Content of: #: index.en.html:24 msgid "" "https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Status/Stretch\";>Stretch Status " "Page" msgstr "" "https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Status/Stretch\";>Statuspagina " "voor Stretch" #. type: Content of: #: index.en.html:25 msgid "" "https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Status/Buster\";>Buster Status " "Page" msgstr "" "https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Status/Buster\";>Statuspagina " "voor Buster" #. type: Content of: #: index.en.html:26 msgid "" "https://jenkins.debian.net/userContent/debian-edu-doc/"; "\">Documentation" msgstr "" "https://jenkins.debian.net/userContent/debian-edu-doc/"; "\">Documentatie" #. type: Content of: #: index.en.html:27 msgid "https://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/\";>Mailing List" msgstr "https://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/\";>Mailinglijst" #. type: Content of: #: index.en.html:31 msgid "" "https://blends.debian.org\";>Debian Pure Blends Overview / https://salsa.debian.org/debian-edu\";>Debian Edu Git" msgstr "" "https://blends.debian.org\";>Overzicht van specifieke uitgaven van " "Debian / https://salsa.debian.org/debian-edu\";>Debian Edu Git" #. start edu logo #. type: Content of: #: index.en.html:37 msgid "https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu\";>" msgstr "https://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu\";>" #. type: Attribute 'alt' of: #: index.en.html:37 msgid "Debian Edu wiki" msgstr "Debian Edu wiki" #. type: Content of: #: index.en.html:40 msgid "" "Debian Edu is a Debian based operating system that fits the requirements of " "schools and similar institutions. It allows one to set up a complete network and " "integrates a large number of educational software packages grouped into " "topic or education level related https://blends.debian.org/edu/"; "tasks\">meta-packages; it's a Debian Pure Blend. Dedicated official Debian installation " "media are available." msgstr "" "Debian Edu is een op Debian gebaseerd besturingssysteem dat beantwoordt aan " "de vereisten van scholen en vergelijkbare instellingen. Het maakt het " "mogelijk om een " "compleet netwerk in te stellen en het groepeert een groot aantal " "pakketten educatieve software volgens thema of onderwijsniveau in https://blends.debian.org/edu/tasks\";>metapakketten. Het is een " "zogenaamde Debian Pure Blend (een doelgroepspecifieke uitgave van Debian). Er zijn speciaal " "hiervoor gemaakte officiële Debian installatiemedia voorhanden." #. type: Content of: #: index.en.html:46 msgid "" "Detailed information is pro
Debian Edu manual Japanese status, and question about gateway and "profiles".
To: Debian Edu team Greeting. Manual Translation Report = It seems I finished the major part translations. (I "Save"d most of them at Weblate this time, except LDAP related translations.) Copyright and history sections still have no translations a lot; I'll do that later. maybe. 2019-05-13 version will be in almost ja, I hope. My plan --- And, my new hardware test finished successfully. So, next week, I would start building my own testing Debian Edu env, using the "translated" manual as possible, to verify the content at once. Question about gateway using Debian Edu Minimal === When I checked the "gateway howto" script, I found this. $ apt-file show debian-edu-config | grep nat debian-edu-config: /etc/init.d/enable-nat I think following the manual to build amd64 gateway using Debian Edu would makes things easy and simple, and I'll do in the way; Even so, here is what I want to ask, just because I'm curious about it. Q: What is the pros of using Debian Edu for gateway? (except the setting script and the nat-service above) some kind of admin such as syslog become more friendly? Question about (translation of) "Profiles" == Q: Should profile names have "translated names"? IMHO they should be English, from 2 reasons. * It would make "machine or profile" explicit. * Considering some locale C ttys and PXE menu. Q: Should profile names have explicit "profile" post-fixes? Say, "Main Server Profile", "LTSP Server Profile". It may help users not to be confused about "Is this main server means the machine, or profile?" Regards.
Bug#928756: debian-edu-config: search domain not configured correctly on diskless workstations in subnet00
Package: debian-edu-config Version: 2.10.64 Severity: important -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 The following misbehaviour occurs reproducibly in a new installation of Debian Edu buster. 1. Install a combined server like normal. 2. Add a machine on the LTSP network 192.168.0.0/32 as in the screenshot. 3. Boot that machine as diskless workstation. If done like that, the /etc/resolv.conf generated at boot by ltsp-init with the information provided by 08-edu-hostname is missing a search domain entry (it should probably be subnet00.intern intern). Thus, short hostnames, like used by the default Firefox start page, are not resolvable. The configuration of the search domain works perfectly on the main network 10.0.0.0/16. I only tested on (two different) combined servers, not on a dedicated terminal server. - -- System Information: Debian Release: buster/sid Architecture: amd64 (x86_64) Kernel: Linux 4.19.0-4-amd64 (SMP w/8 CPU cores) Kernel taint flags: TAINT_PROPRIETARY_MODULE, TAINT_FIRMWARE_WORKAROUND, TAINT_OOT_MODULE, TAINT_UNSIGNED_MODULE Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /usr/bin/dash Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system) LSM: AppArmor: enabled Versions of packages debian-edu-config depends on: ii bind9-host 1:9.11.5.P4+dfsg-1 ii cfengine33.12.1-2 ii debconf [debconf-2.0]1.5.71 ii debconf-utils1.5.71 ii debian-edu-artwork 2.10.5-1 ii desktop-profiles 1.4.30 ii e2fsprogs1.44.5-1 ii education-tasks 2.10.47 ii fping4.2-1 ii isenkram-cli 0.41 ii ldap-utils 2.4.47+dfsg-3 ii ldapscripts 2.0.8-1 ii libconfig-inifiles-perl 3.01-1 ii libfilesys-df-perl 0.92-6+b4 ii libhtml-fromtext-perl2.07-1 ii libio-socket-ssl-perl2.060-3 ii libnet-ldap-perl 1:0.6500+dfsg-1 ii libnet-netmask-perl 1.9104-1 ii libnss3-tools2:3.42.1-1 ii libpacparser11.3.6-1.1+b4 ii libpam-python1.0.6-1.1 ii libproxy1-plugin-kconfig 0.4.15-5 ii libproxy1-plugin-networkmanager 0.4.15-5 ii libproxy1-plugin-webkit 0.4.15-5 ii libterm-readkey-perl 2.38-1 ii libtext-unaccent-perl1.08-1.3+b3 ii lockfile-progs 0.1.18 ii lsb-base 10.2019031300 ii lsb-release 10.2019031300 ii mime-support 3.62 ii net-tools1.60+git20180626.aebd88e-1 ii netcat-traditional [netcat] 1.10-41.1 ii ng-utils 1.0-1+b1 ii openssl 1.1.1b-1 ii patch2.7.6-3 ii python 2.7.16-1 ii python-notify0.1.1-4 ii ssl-cert 1.0.39 ii swaks20181104.0-2 ii tftp-hpa 5.2+20150808-1+b1 ii uuid 1.6.2-1.5+b7 Versions of packages debian-edu-config recommends: ii binutils 2.31.1-15 ii libnotify-bin 0.7.7-4 ii lsof 4.91+dfsg-1 ii memtest86+ 5.01-3 pn resolvconf ii syslinux 3:6.04~git20190206.bf6db5b4+dfsg1-1 debian-edu-config suggests no packages. - -- Configuration Files: /etc/sssd/sssd-debian-edu.conf [Errno 13] Keine Berechtigung: '/etc/sssd/sssd-debian-edu.conf' - -- debconf-show failed -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQJ+BAEBCABoFiEEPJ1UpHV1wCb7F/0mt5o8FqDE8pYFAlzVeD0xGmh0dHBzOi8v d3d3LmRvbWluaWstZ2VvcmdlLmRlL2dwZy1wb2xpY3kudHh0LmFzYxgcbmF0dXJl c2hhZG93QGRlYmlhbi5vcmcACgkQt5o8FqDE8pazfw//RV0gY6hiwqAj0VAnjZHQ +42aDgBSII0r/TBUFXMZjAzGSlEFivoJ366Yxcww8IbJ0fk8gCD0Pz/mdI6Vc6aj 7YeMgkbXChFPSED9PaqjeiAIY6sGl++5Y6Av3X51tsP/+lOkVH8kII5CI55Ggmk1 XY+j02jgh67mstrYZbuiX5DB/bVGuOwVY06t1FO6d8Wsi/YEP4sx7IDJL4o3Ng8b H1jiCFYWUNUt/b1dOTbUhKQS0dIuyPQp0KANQk8aXQ9/VffeypASi/XZQKwAfGF/ wB2ZwYUqtWAQ0qvYsc3WqTj6fkcSqvGc2KGm9vsT3OjfuShs6xPj5Dw0qN3WV2Hk MmlDnRhmUWS8P2y1W9ItbUXMuQ3lUYrxKbpz+E6qBqsriKRIw4KiLGViAwxftrpH fLwim9hC/VPk7bwNU7w0KSWcQfvOWYf6wre4xw3aGgxrk4fuV3i9EutPSSyRNd8m 9NzP1XJRUlghxL66JcYzisKMjKT12aenyABjy3ExOCCwpuZ6L7SWYHKwAbvNQP1b x9F/N0wyEciZ81H1S0GUdEyr5/AnohFlFLrxL7JaNg8xXE/t2JVHWWbO2iCNKbgp 8iUGrvyO8/FsF42UjexiWrNHg7hKDPBEWa4DLtpCMEjvIGEF/QIP4Q/RvBOC+vQC fdI4jtonFwurGbnWV2x5wLE= =ftWv -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: About Debian edu manual terminology, etc.
To: Debian Edu team I started building my isolated Debian Edu Buster env, then I got a trouble around gateway. (I have to start with gateway by personal issue) It's about NIC name rules. ethN -> enpxxx I'm not sure but I think Linus said something like "Just code it." So I attach my "gateway's /etc/network/interfaces generator" It's a bash script. Tested on my new gateway Debian Edu Buster Minimal machine, amd64(Kaby Lake) dual NIC. It seems any other part works fine. I only edit /etc/network/interfaces. I'm now LAN cable shortage and not tested LAN side. Just did some minimum tests. Apology for that. Regards. And this is also a re-sending message, as shown below. On 5/10/19 10:47 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 09:57:12PM +0900, hoxp18 wrote: Dear Holger Levsen, On 5/8/19 10:38 PM, Holger Levsen wrote: * NIC names: ethN Both Stretch and Buster now uses enpXsYfZ styles. Will it be changed? no I tried Debian Edu Buster 2019-05-06 netinst, Minimal Profile install on my amd64 dual NIC machine to make it my gateway. eth0 and eth1 is preconfigured in /etc/network/interfaces, but they fail when "service networking start". /sys/class/net shows the NICs as "enp0s31f6" and "enp1s0". I replaced eth0 and eth1 by them. Then it works. WAN side: I confirmed by apt update. LAN side: not yet NAT: "systemctl status enable-nat.service" shows "active" Perhaps the manual and scripts should mention about it. yes, seems so. What I'm considering now is something like this. $ find /sys/class/net ! -name net -a ! -name lo -exec basename \[\} \; enp1s0 enp0s31f6 $ # and some more automated /etc/network/interfaces settings. # cp new-interfaces /etc/network/interfaces # service networking stop # and go on Since I just now have the gateway only, I have no idea about this issue; I send this mail only for you. please resend to the list, this is a good question and I wont have time to reply in the next 24h, sorry. (also for this very brief email!) Thank you for your quick and precise reply, Holger Levsen. gateway-setup.sh Description: application/shellscript
Re: (nl) Some more translations
Hi Simon and Frans, On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 09:48:40AM +0200, Simon Oosthoek wrote: > I couldn't resist looking at it and I hope I improved some if the > translations in the process.. (see attached) If the two of you could find an agreement about the Dutch content of those two different strings, I'll commit it. Wolfgang signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Debian Edu manual Japanese status, and question about gateway and "profiles".
Hi hoxp18, On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 07:25:31PM +0900, hoxp18 wrote: > Manual Translation Report > = > > It seems I finished the major part translations. > (I "Save"d most of them at Weblate this time, > except LDAP related translations.) That's very good news. Thank you so much. > Copyright and history sections still have > no translations a lot; I'll do that later. maybe. > > 2019-05-13 version will be in almost ja, I hope. Great. > My plan > --- > > And, my new hardware test finished successfully. > > So, next week, I would start building my own testing > Debian Edu env, using the "translated" manual as possible, > to verify the content at once. That's a good idea. > Question about gateway using Debian Edu Minimal > === > > When I checked the "gateway howto" script, I found this. > > $ apt-file show debian-edu-config | grep nat > debian-edu-config: /etc/init.d/enable-nat > > I think following the manual to build amd64 gateway > using Debian Edu would makes things easy and simple, > and I'll do in the way; > > Even so, here is what I want to ask, > just because I'm curious about it. > > Q: What is the pros of using Debian Edu for gateway? >(except the setting script and the nat-service above) Nothing else, I guess. It's intended as help for users. > Question about (translation of) "Profiles" > == > > Q: Should profile names have "translated names"? Yes. Please use/keep the translations that are used during system setup, see: https://salsa.debian.org/debian-edu/debian-edu-install/raw/master/debian/po/ja.po >IMHO they should be English, from 2 reasons. >* It would make "machine or profile" explicit. >* Considering some locale C ttys and PXE menu. No, please see above. > Q: Should profile names have explicit "profile" post-fixes? > >Say, "Main Server Profile", "LTSP Server Profile". No, in the manual it should rather be "Main-Server" profile, "LTSP-Server" profile with those terms translated to ja like already existent. >It may help users not to be confused about >"Is this main server means the machine, or profile?" If you find related text in the manual, please report it. Thanks for your work, really awesome! Wolfgang signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: About Debian edu manual terminology, etc.
On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 11:53:45PM +0900, hoxp18 wrote: > I started building my isolated Debian Edu Buster env, > then I got a trouble around gateway. > (I have to start with gateway by personal issue) > > It's about NIC name rules. ethN -> enpxxx > > > I tried Debian Edu Buster 2019-05-06 netinst, > > > Minimal Profile install on my amd64 dual NIC machine > > > to make it my gateway. > > > > > > eth0 and eth1 is preconfigured in /etc/network/interfaces, > > > but they fail when "service networking start". > > > > > > /sys/class/net shows the NICs as "enp0s31f6" and "enp1s0". > > > > > > I replaced eth0 and eth1 by them. Then it works. Please check /etc/default/grub, for the "Minimal" profile it should be: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="net.ifnames=0 quiet" If it isn't the case, adjust it and run 'update-grub' and reboot. This makes sure that eth0 and eth1 are kept. Wolfgang signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: About Debian edu manual terminology, etc.
Dear Wolfgang Schweer, On 5/11/19 12:58 AM, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 11:53:45PM +0900, hoxp18 wrote: I started building my isolated Debian Edu Buster env, then I got a trouble around gateway. (I have to start with gateway by personal issue) It's about NIC name rules. ethN -> enpxxx I tried Debian Edu Buster 2019-05-06 netinst, Minimal Profile install on my amd64 dual NIC machine to make it my gateway. eth0 and eth1 is preconfigured in /etc/network/interfaces, but they fail when "service networking start". /sys/class/net shows the NICs as "enp0s31f6" and "enp1s0". I replaced eth0 and eth1 by them. Then it works. Please check /etc/default/grub, for the "Minimal" profile it should be: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="net.ifnames=0 quiet" If it isn't the case, adjust it and run 'update-grub' and reboot. This makes sure that eth0 and eth1 are kept. Wolfgang I completely had no idea about that kernel parameter. I'll check-it and reinstall-the-gateway ASAP. (Since I'm in LAN cables and KVM shortage; I have to do messy re-cabling for a while) Thank you. Have a nice day.
Re: Debian Edu manual Japanese status, and question about gateway and "profiles".
Dear Wolfgang Schweer, On 5/11/19 12:50 AM, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: Question about gateway using Debian Edu Minimal === When I checked the "gateway howto" script, I found this. $ apt-file show debian-edu-config | grep nat debian-edu-config: /etc/init.d/enable-nat I think following the manual to build amd64 gateway using Debian Edu would makes things easy and simple, and I'll do in the way; Even so, here is what I want to ask, just because I'm curious about it. Q: What is the pros of using Debian Edu for gateway? (except the setting script and the nat-service above) Nothing else, I guess. It's intended as help for users. Got it. I'll keep using Debian Edu gateway for a while. In the future, perhaps I replace it pure Debian with iptables. Question about (translation of) "Profiles" == Q: Should profile names have "translated names"? Yes. Please use/keep the translations that are used during system setup, see: https://salsa.debian.org/debian-edu/debian-edu-install/raw/master/debian/po/ja.po Oh, shame. That's what I should/need/have-to read it! Thank you for telling! IMHO they should be English, from 2 reasons. * It would make "machine or profile" explicit. * Considering some locale C ttys and PXE menu. No, please see above. Q: Should profile names have explicit "profile" post-fixes? Say, "Main Server Profile", "LTSP Server Profile". No, in the manual it should rather be "Main-Server" profile, "LTSP-Server" profile with those terms translated to ja like already existent. It may help users not to be confused about "Is this main server means the machine, or profile?" If you find related text in the manual, please report it. Ack. This weekend I'll re-check those terms in the manual which does not match with the installer po file. Thanks for your work, really awesome! Wolfgang Great thanks for you, too!
Re: (nl) Some more translations
Hi Simon and Wofgang, Wolfgang Schweer schreef op vr 10-05-2019 om 17:38 [+0200]: > Hi Simon and Frans, > > On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 09:48:40AM +0200, Simon Oosthoek wrote: > > I couldn't resist looking at it and I hope I improved some if the > > translations in the process.. (see attached) Thank you Simon for your review, which is sometimes lacking at debian-l 10n-du...@lists.debian.org (although this particular file wasn't submitted there for review by me). > > > If the two of you could find an agreement about the Dutch content of > those two different strings, I'll commit it. I consider both suggestions by Simon as being an improvement, indeed. So Wolfgang please do commit Simon's attachment. > > Wolfgang -- Kind regards, Frans Spiesschaert
Re: (nl) Some more translations
On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 06:26:17PM +0200, Frans Spiesschaert wrote: > I consider both suggestions by Simon as being an improvement, indeed. > So Wolfgang please do commit Simon's attachment. Thanks, done. Should be online in a minute. Wolfgang signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: About Debian edu manual terminology, etc.
Hi hoxp18, hoxp18 schreef op za 11-05-2019 om 01:17 [+0900]: > Dear Wolfgang Schweer, > > On 5/11/19 12:58 AM, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: > > On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 11:53:45PM +0900, hoxp18 wrote: > > > I started building my isolated Debian Edu Buster env, > > > then I got a trouble around gateway. > > > (I have to start with gateway by personal issue) > > > > > > It's about NIC name rules. ethN -> enpxxx > > > > > I tried Debian Edu Buster 2019-05-06 netinst, > > > > > Minimal Profile install on my amd64 dual NIC machine > > > > > to make it my gateway. > > > > > > > > > > eth0 and eth1 is preconfigured in /etc/network/interfaces, > > > > > but they fail when "service networking start". > > > > > > > > > > /sys/class/net shows the NICs as "enp0s31f6" and "enp1s0". > > > > > > > > > > I replaced eth0 and eth1 by them. Then it works. > > > > Please check /etc/default/grub, for the "Minimal" profile it should > > be: > > GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="net.ifnames=0 quiet" > > If it isn't the case, adjust it and run 'update-grub' and reboot. > > > > This makes sure that eth0 and eth1 are kept. An alternative is to switch to the new network interfaces naming scheme: the release-notes for buster explain how to accomplish this. See https://ddp-team.pages.debian.net/release-notes/amd64/release-note s/ch-information.en.html#migrate-interface-names Unfortunately the Japanese translation of that part of the release- notes hasn't been updated yet. > > > > Wolfgang > > I completely had no idea about that kernel parameter. > > I'll check-it and reinstall-the-gateway ASAP. > (Since I'm in LAN cables and KVM shortage; > I have to do messy re-cabling for a while) > > Thank you. Have a nice day. > -- Kind regards, Frans Spiesschaert
Bug#928756: debian-edu-config: search domain not configured correctly on diskless workstations in subnet00
On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 03:10:22PM +0200, Dominik George wrote: > 1. Install a combined server like normal. > 2. Add a machine on the LTSP network 192.168.0.0/32 as in the screenshot. Thanks for providing the screenshot. It's a special case to have fixed IPs in this subnet. If you untick DNS it is supposed to work. Please test. Wolfgang signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Bug#928756: debian-edu-config: search domain not configured correctly on diskless workstations in subnet00
Hi, > Thanks for providing the screenshot. It's a special case to have fixed > IPs in this subnet. If you untick DNS it is supposed to work. But then I don't get a resolvable, fixed hostname, right? That was the whole idea behind adding the hosts: Have them limited to PXE booting, but still get readable hostnames in logs and for SSH access. I will still test without DNS. -nik signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: About Debian edu manual terminology, etc.
Dear Frans Spiesschaert, Wolfgang Schweer, On 5/11/19 2:02 AM, Frans Spiesschaert wrote: hoxp18 schreef op za 11-05-2019 om 01:17 [+0900]: On 5/11/19 12:58 AM, Wolfgang Schweer wrote: On Fri, May 10, 2019 at 11:53:45PM +0900, hoxp18 wrote: eth0 and eth1 is preconfigured in /etc/network/interfaces, but they fail when "service networking start". /sys/class/net shows the NICs as "enp0s31f6" and "enp1s0". I replaced eth0 and eth1 by them. Then it works. Please check /etc/default/grub, for the "Minimal" profile it should be: GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="net.ifnames=0 quiet" If it isn't the case, adjust it and run 'update-grub' and reboot. This makes sure that eth0 and eth1 are kept. An alternative is to switch to the new network interfaces naming scheme: the release-notes for buster explain how to accomplish this. See https://ddp-team.pages.debian.net/release-notes/amd64/release-note s/ch-information.en.html#migrate-interface-names Both seems interesting for me. I'll try them as possible as I can. IMHO, for Debian Edu Buster, keeping ethN scheme seems better, with making sure about the kernel setting, because both code and manual seems to keep ethN scheme. When I build the gateway with plain Debian, It seems I should switch to the new naming scheme, using nftables instead of iptables. BTW the page at ddp-team.pages.debian.net shows only 404 for me. I guess it it because I'm accessing from Japan or some other auth and/or firewall related, etc. I'll read https://www.debian.org/releases/testing/releasenotes and the ch-information.en.html#migrate-interface-names page, instead. Thank you for giving fine information. Regards.
Main server ja translation on manual : prioritize installer .po
To: Debian Edu team CC: Debian ja translators (debian-Japanese ML) Greeting. I've considered about "main server" ja candidates for Debian Edu Buster manual during my translation. There are a problem of mismatched translation. Current Situation = * installer uses "主サーバ"@ja = "main server"@en #. Type: multiselect #. Choices #. __Choices: Main-Server, Workstation, Roaming-Workstation, LTSP-Server, Standalone, Minimal #: ../debian-edu-profile-udeb.templates:2001 msgid "Main Server" msgstr "主サーバ" * the manual uses "中心サーバ"@ja != "main server"@en. It rather means "center/central server"@en. I don't know the reason. Some Japanese prefer the manual expression, Some other prefer the installer expression. My suggestion = Unify those terms "主サーバー"@ja or "メインサーバー"@ja, both means "main server"@en; it's just differences between katakana and kanji. IMHO "メインサーバー"@ja (= "主サーバ"@ja.installer.po) would be better, but also think changing installer.po so soon may make things more complicated. So, at first I'll attempt to unify them as "主サーバー"@ja in both installer (and other components) po file(s) and the manual. (add omitted prolonged sound symbol (I'll call it OPSS) at its tail; more natural expression in "2019" Japan) Reasons --- * The installer .po has longer history. * "main server" is only one in Debian Edu system. * "main server" could have "standby server" for fault tolerance and/or load balance purpose in the future (as an option), I hope. I guess it may make the Debian Edu system more widely used. In that occasion, "主サーバー" allows terms like "standby server" translation easier. e.g.) "副サーバー"@ja and/or "代替サーバー"@ja. Comments - I've not noticed about installer Japanese display, since I usually prefer expert mode installation in English. Summary * I'll try to create and send a diff patch for installer .po for OPSSs. I should make them for the other components .po files, too. * I'll edit the manual to change "中心サーバ"@ja into "主サーバー"@ja.installer.po-with-OPSS-patch. The reason is described above. More detail, please read the thread https://lists.debian.org/debian-edu/2019/05/msg00020.html If you have any suggestion, please tell me. Regards.
[patch] adding omitted prolonged sound symbols.
To: Debian Edu team CC: Debian Japanese team As I send a message about "main server" and issue about installer.po-manual-ja mismatch and prolonged sound symbols, I created a patch for installer.po. It just adds omitted prolonged sound symbols for "server" Background == Japanese veteran IT tech people prefer omitting the trailing prolonged sound symbols which corresponds to "server"/"printer"'s "-er" part. It was useful on limited resolution and/or transfer sizes, etc. Now, in many cases those omits are no longer recommended, I guess. e.g) "サーバ"@ja should now be "サーバー"@ja. I attach my diff patch. Regards. === modified file 'ja.po' --- ja.po 2019-05-11 00:53:37 + +++ ja.po 2019-05-11 00:59:26 + @@ -38,7 +38,7 @@ #. __Choices: Main-Server, Workstation, Roaming-Workstation, LTSP-Server, Standalone, Minimal #: ../debian-edu-profile-udeb.templates:2001 msgid "Main Server" -msgstr "主ãµã¼ã" +msgstr "主ãµã¼ãã¼" #. Type: multiselect #. Choices @@ -59,7 +59,7 @@ #. __Choices: Main-Server, Workstation, Roaming-Workstation, LTSP-Server, Standalone, Minimal #: ../debian-edu-profile-udeb.templates:2001 msgid "LTSP Server" -msgstr "LTSP ãµã¼ã" +msgstr "LTSP ãµã¼ãã¼" #. Type: multiselect #. Choices @@ -107,13 +107,13 @@ " - Minimal: fully integrated into the Debian Edu network but\n" "contains only a basic system without any GUI." msgstr "" -" - 主ãµã¼ã: Debian Edu ãµã¼ãã¨ãã¦äºç´ããã¾ããGUI (ã°ã©ãã£ã«ã«ã¦ã¼ã¶\n" +" - 主ãµã¼ãã¼: Debian Edu ãµã¼ãã¨ãã¦äºç´ããã¾ããGUI (ã°ã©ãã£ã«ã«ã¦ã¼ã¶\n" " ã¤ã³ã¿ã¼ãã§ã¤ã¹) ãå«ãã§ãã¾ãããDebian Edu ãããã¯ã¼ã¯ã§\n" " ãã®ãµã¼ã㯠1 ã¤ã®ã¿ã§ããã¹ãã§ãã\n" " - ã¯ã¼ã¯ã¹ãã¼ã·ã§ã³: Debian Edu ãããã¯ã¼ã¯ã®é常ã®ãã·ã³ã§ãã\n" " - ãã¼ãã³ã°ã¯ã¼ã¯ã¹ãã¼ã·ã§ã³: Debian Edu ãããã¯ã¼ã¯ã§ã®åä¸ã¦ã¼ã¶ãã·ã³\n" " åãã§ããã®ãããã¯ã¼ã¯ããå¤ã«åºããã¨ãããã¾ãã\n" -" - LTSP ãµã¼ã:\n" +" - LTSP ãµã¼ãã¼:\n" " 'ã¯ã¼ã¯ã¹ãã¼ã·ã§ã³' ãå«ã¿ã2 æã®ãããã¯ã¼ã¯ã«ã¼ããå¿ è¦ã§ãã\n" " - ã¹ã¿ã³ãã¢ãã³: Debian Edu ãããã¯ã¼ã¯å¤ã§ä½¿ããããã·ã³ã§ãã\n" " GUI ãå«ã¿ãã»ãã®ãããã¡ã¤ã«ã¨ã¯ç«¶åãã¾ãã\n" @@ -222,14 +222,14 @@ #. Debian Edu main server menu entry for partman recipe. #: ../debian-edu-profile-udeb.templates:10001 msgid "Debian Edu Main Server" -msgstr "Debian Edu 主ãµã¼ã" +msgstr "Debian Edu 主ãµã¼ãã¼" #. Type: text #. Description #. Debian Edu ltsp server menu entry for partman recipe. #: ../debian-edu-profile-udeb.templates:11001 msgid "Debian Edu LTSP Server" -msgstr "Debian Edu LTSP ãµã¼ã" +msgstr "Debian Edu LTSP ãµã¼ãã¼" #. Type: text #. Description @@ -243,14 +243,14 @@ #. Debian Edu combo main+ltsp menu entry for partman recipe. #: ../debian-edu-profile-udeb.templates:13001 msgid "Debian Edu Main Server and LTSP Server" -msgstr "Debian Edu 主ãµã¼ã㨠LTSP ãµã¼ã" +msgstr "Debian Edu 主ãµã¼ãã¼ã¨LTSP ãµã¼ãã¼" #. Type: text #. Description #. Debian Edu combo main+ws menu entry for partman recipe. #: ../debian-edu-profile-udeb.templates:14001 msgid "Debian Edu Main Server and Workstation" -msgstr "Debian Edu 主ãµã¼ãã¨ã¯ã¼ã¯ã¹ãã¼ã·ã§ã³" +msgstr "Debian Edu 主ãµã¼ãã¼ã¨ã¯ã¼ã¯ã¹ãã¼ã·ã§ã³" #. Type: text #. Description
