Re: Debian Edu Stretch manual translation

2017-09-01 Thread Holger Levsen
On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:33:18PM +0200, Wolfgang Schweer wrote:
> No response from the Finnish translator in 7 days, no activity on
> https://hosted.weblate.org/projects/debian-edu-documentation/debian-edu-stretch/fi/
> either. Still only 3 strings (15 words) translated. IMO the PO file 
> should be removed from git.

agreed & done, thanks.


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Bug#873931: nm-applet missing on MATE and Xfce desktop

2017-09-01 Thread Holger Levsen
package: debian-edu
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On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 10:29:02PM +0200, Wolfgang Schweer wrote:
> > tasks/{standalone,roaming-workstation}: Ideally both 
> > network-manager applets are available (plasma-nm, 
> > network-manager-gome). As we don't know the desktop-environment, let's 
> > pull in both.
> 
> After investigating this issue I noticed:
> 
> GNOME: nothing to do (gnome depends on network-manager-gnome)
> KDE Plasma: ditto (kde-standard depends on plasma-nm)
> LXDE: ditto (lxde depends on wicd)
> LXQt: ditto (lxqt depends on cmst) [cmst: 'connman system tray']
> MATE: network-manager-gnome needs to be installed
> Xfce: network-manager-gnome needs to be installed; also, 
>   tasks/desktop-xfce needs xfce4-notifyd as additional dependency
>   to actually let the applet show up in the system tray.
> 
> IMO only one applet for each DE is needed / wanted.
> So tasks/standalone and tasks/roaming-workstation should depend on
> network-manager-gnome | plasma-nm | cmst | wicd
> 
> Please check.


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Re: nm-applet (Was: Re: [debian-edu-commits] debian-edu/ 19/31: tasks/{standalone, roaming-workstation}: Ideally both network-manager applets are available (plasma-nm, network-manager-gome). As we don

2017-09-01 Thread Mike Gabriel

Hi Wolfgang,

On  Do 31 Aug 2017 22:29:02 CEST, Wolfgang Schweer wrote:


Hi Mike,

thanks for reworking the task files.

On Mon, Aug 21, 2017 at 02:28:32PM +, Mike Gabriel wrote:
[..]

commit dcbe745ce151205ee7d6a6340b2f02b1ac516f32
Author: Mike Gabriel 
Date:   Sun Aug 13 22:59:40 2017 -0400

tasks/{standalone,roaming-workstation}: Ideally both
network-manager applets are available (plasma-nm,
network-manager-gome). As we don't know the desktop-environment, let's
pull in both.


After investigating this issue I noticed:

GNOME: nothing to do (gnome depends on network-manager-gnome)
KDE Plasma: ditto (kde-standard depends on plasma-nm)
LXDE: ditto (lxde depends on wicd)
LXQt: ditto (lxqt depends on cmst) [cmst: 'connman system tray']
MATE: network-manager-gnome needs to be installed
Xfce: network-manager-gnome needs to be installed; also,
  tasks/desktop-xfce needs xfce4-notifyd as additional dependency
  to actually let the applet show up in the system tray.

IMO only one applet for each DE is needed / wanted.
So tasks/standalone and tasks/roaming-workstation should depend on
network-manager-gnome | plasma-nm | cmst | wicd

Please check.

Wolfgang


I remember that I had to frown at those deps/recommends in the first  
place, when I worked on them.


Shouldn't that be entirely be handled by the respective desktop  
environment and its meta packages?


Mike
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Re: nm-applet (Was: Re: [debian-edu-commits] debian-edu/ 19/31: tasks/{standalone, roaming-workstation}: Ideally both network-manager applets are available (plasma-nm, network-manager-gome). As we don

2017-09-01 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
On Fri, Sep 01, 2017 at 11:04:20AM +, Mike Gabriel wrote:
> > IMO only one applet for each DE is needed / wanted.
> > So tasks/standalone and tasks/roaming-workstation should depend on
> > network-manager-gnome | plasma-nm | cmst | wicd
> I remember that I had to frown at those deps/recommends in the first place,
> when I worked on them.
> 
> Shouldn't that be entirely be handled by the respective desktop environment
> and its meta packages?
 
Could be, yes. I suspect the reason for those deps/recommends has once 
been to only install packages when really needed - what makes sense, I 
figure. My proposal followed that assumed intention.

Wolfgang


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