Re: some feedback after alpha install

2013-06-26 Thread nigel barker
On 26 June 2013 14:54, Petter Reinholdtsen  wrote:

> This sound very strange, and do not happen in my testing.  What is the
> output from running '/usr/sbin/debian-edu-test-install | grep error:'
> as root?
>

attached. I also included warnings. I suppose the memory error means
something went wrong with the install?



> Did you use a very short password?  This sound like the problem that
> d-i accept any password, but Kerberos reject too short passwords,
> leaving us with a initial user that can't log into the desktop, but
> probably can log in to Gosa.

Yes. I will document this if you can tell me how long the pw must be.

Something I forgot to mention, is that the welcome/configuration page
on tjener needs English fixes. How do I do that?

cheers
Nigel


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Re: some feedback after alpha install

2013-06-26 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Nigel barker]
> attached. I also included warnings. I suppose the memory error means
> something went wrong with the install?

Not really.  I believe the "memory error" just is DMI reporting that
you have error correcting ram.  The only errors (you grepped for
error, not error:) are these:

  error: ./cups: URL 'https://www:631/' is not working.
  error: ./cups: URL 'https://localhost:631/' is not working.
  error: ./doc: Release manual have 14 FIXMEs.  Please fix at 
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Wheezy .
  error: ./nagios: Nagios count NUMSVCCRIT is not zero but 1.

Nagios is probably discovering that you lack Internet connection.  Not
sure why cups is complaining.  Look like an old error we fixed a while
back.

> Yes. I will document this if you can tell me how long the pw must be.

I had a look in tools/kerberos-kdc-init, and there

  kadmin.local -q "addpol -minlength 5 users"

is called.  I believe this mean that the passwords must be at least 5
characters long.

I guess we should at least mention it in
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Wheezy/Installation >.
Perhaps other places too?

> Something I forgot to mention, is that the welcome/configuration
> page on tjener needs English fixes. How do I do that?

Edit debian-edu-config/www/index.html.en.  Note that this will
invalidate translations.

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Re: some feedback after alpha install

2013-06-26 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 11:53:05AM +0900, Nigel Barker wrote:
> 
> I installed a test tjener behind an ipcop. The ipcop originally was
> serving dhcp so that I could do the netinst.
> After first boot, I notice that tjener has reconfigured its networking
> correctly and is serving dhcp, so I disabled dhcp in the ipcop, then
> rebooted a test client (plain wheezy)
> Now I have some difficulties:
> 
> 1. DNS is not working properly.
> The client on the test network can ping outside the school by ip
> address, but not by name. It can ping tjener by name and number, and
> the ipcop by number.
> The new tjener can't ping the ipcop by number, but it can ping the
> client by number! It can't ping outside at all.
> I'm a bit confused what to configure, because on the other side of the
> ipcop is the real tjener, with the same ip address.

I believe that your described network architecture causes the problems. 
(two times tjener with same ip). IMO a test network should be separated 
from your existing network using a gateway, one nic with IP 10.0.0.1 
attached to a switch connected to the new tjener main network, the other 
one attached to a thin client net of the old tjener with a fixed IP like 
192.168.0.5 (configured in old tjener's LDAP with GOsa²) and nat enabled 
on this gateway. Test clients could be attached to the new tjener's main 
network, if you lack network components.

To test the new network only in itself, just attach the new jener (nic 
with IP 10.0.2.2) and a client to a separate switch.

Wolfgang



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Installing new workstation

2013-06-26 Thread Andreas Weller
Hi.
How to add a workstation to a tjener server - not a terminal or a
diskless workstation? I just did a plain (skole squeeze based)
installation to hard disk - but there's still my old problem with "no
home directory found". The workstation is connected to the main network.
For installation I chose "workstation" in the text mode installer. DHCP
is working and I can ping tjener. So I suspect there's something wrong
with adding the Workstation to gosa²: do I need to assign the
workstation's IP from a special IP range - or is the default 10.0.2.x
good? Which NIS groups must the machine belong to? How to add a new
workstation to gosa²?


Thank you and
regards,
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Re: Is sshfs usable and sensible as home directory file system?

2013-06-26 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen

[Wolfgang Schweer]
> By default, LTSP in wheezy uses LDM for diskless workstations. So
> sshfs is used to access home dirs -- same as with thin clients.

This comment made me believe that LTSP in Debian Edu Wheezy used sshfs
to access user home directories, and that we no longer needed to add
diskless workstations to DNS and the workstation-hosts netgroup.

But I was wrong.  Our LTSP setup still uses NFSv4 to mount home
directories, and it is impossible to log in if the machine isn't
registered in GOSA and added to DNS, DHCP and the workstation-hosts
netgroup.

So I wonder, are you talking about some non-edu setup above, or is there
something wrong with my setup compared to your setup?  Perhaps we should
switch to sshfs in Debian Edu?

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Re: Is sshfs usable and sensible as home directory file system?

2013-06-26 Thread Wolfgang Schweer
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 04:18:25PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote:
> 
> [Wolfgang Schweer]
> > By default, LTSP in wheezy uses LDM for diskless workstations. So
> > sshfs is used to access home dirs -- same as with thin clients.
> 
> This comment made me believe that LTSP in Debian Edu Wheezy used sshfs
> to access user home directories, and that we no longer needed to add
> diskless workstations to DNS and the workstation-hosts netgroup.
> 
> But I was wrong.  Our LTSP setup still uses NFSv4 to mount home
> directories, and it is impossible to log in if the machine isn't
> registered in GOSA and added to DNS, DHCP and the workstation-hosts
> netgroup.
> 
> So I wonder, are you talking about some non-edu setup above, or is there
> something wrong with my setup compared to your setup?  Perhaps we should
> switch to sshfs in Debian Edu?
 
I'll have another look at LTSP clients soon. A few weeks ago it was as 
stated above, iirc. It was default Debian Edu setup.

Wolfgang



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Re: Generic Screenshots in all debian packages?

2013-06-26 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen

[Petter Reinholdtsen 2013-05-11]
>[Philipp Huebner]
>> There is:
>> http://screenshots.debian.net/
> 
> Yes, and it is the one used by all Debian services needing
> screenshots, so please help us make sure all educational packages have
> content there.  Check which ones are missing images using
> http://blends.alioth.debian.org/edu/tasks/ >.

http://debian-edu.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/edu-debtags.cgi > now
give an overview of all the packages with the use::learning debtag that
lack screenshots.  Please help us by adding screenshots on
http://screenshots.debian.net/ >.  It is a simple way to help us
get a better distribution. :)

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Re: Installing new workstation

2013-06-26 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen

[Andreas Weller]
> Hi.
> How to add a workstation to a tjener server - not a terminal or a
> diskless workstation? I just did a plain (skole squeeze based)
> installation to hard disk - but there's still my old problem with "no
> home directory found". The workstation is connected to the main
> network.

See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEdu/Documentation/Squeeze/GettingStarted#Machine_Management_with_GOsa.2BALI-
 >.
Machines are only allowed to mount home directories if they are listed
in the workstation-hosts NIS netgroup.

> For installation I chose "workstation" in the text mode
> installer. DHCP is working and I can ping tjener. So I suspect there's
> something wrong with adding the Workstation to gosa²: do I need to
> assign the workstation's IP from a special IP range - or is the
> default 10.0.2.x good? Which NIS groups must the machine belong to?
> How to add a new workstation to gosa²?

You need to enable DHCP, DNS and add the machine to the
workstation-hosts NIS netgroup.  And perhaps wait a minute or so for the
setup to propagate.

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Re: some feedback after alpha install

2013-06-26 Thread Nigel Barker
On 26 June 2013 19:23, Wolfgang Schweer  wrote:

>
> I believe that your described network architecture causes the problems.
> (two times tjener with same ip). IMO a test network should be separated
> from your existing network using a gateway, one nic with IP 10.0.0.1
> attached to a switch connected to the new tjener main network, the other
> one attached to a thin client net of the old tjener with a fixed IP like
> 192.168.0.5 (configured in old tjener's LDAP with GOsa²) and nat enabled

Yes, this was a good idea.
I connected the ipcop to the 192 interface of ltspserver01 (which just
happens to be right next to my test bench), and now everything is
working properly. No configuration required, because I have dhcp on
the external NIC of the ipcop.

Thanks
Nigel


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hardware advice

2013-06-26 Thread Nigel Barker
Dear All,

I am in the unusual situation of being able to perform a major-ish
upgrade, and I was hoping someone could give me some tips.

Our school has less than 100 computers, and probably an equal number
of wireless devices. The maximum concurrent users is probably 50. At
the moment everything slows down waiting for tjener. (lenny on a 2GHZ
opteron 64 with 2GB and one 7200 sata drive of 500GB, which is half
full)

1. switches are currently 100Mbps. Should I upgrade them?
2. tjener.
a) I'm thinking of going with raid0 for home0. What do you think?
b) I can probably get a low end xeon (single socket). Is it better to
use the money to get a higher-spec core i5 or i7 instead?

If anyone has recommendations based on small schools they are familiar
with, please let me know.

Thanks
Nigel


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Re: some feedback after alpha install

2013-06-26 Thread Nigel Barker
On 26 June 2013 17:02, Petter Reinholdtsen  wrote:
> [Nigel barker]
>
>> Something I forgot to mention, is that the welcome/configuration
>> page on tjener needs English fixes. How do I do that?
>
> Edit debian-edu-config/www/index.html.en.  Note that this will
> invalidate translations.

I made minimal corrections that I believe shouldn't affect translations.

cheers
Nigel


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