Re: no home-directory on diskless workstations

2012-05-09 Thread George
Hi Georg,

Tx for your advice. 
I removed the client and recreated 
it with another ip, enabled dhcp, enabled dns and added it to nis-groups
 workstations and all-hosts.. Rebooted the workstation.

Still no luck. It does not mount the homedir..

I
 don't really know where to look next. Could it have anything to do with
 the /skole/tjener/home0 being mounted at the server from a nfs host? I dont 
think it should affect the exports from the chroot, but thats the only change 
Ive done with the homedir.

It
 works without a glitch when booting thin-clients from 192.168.1.0 
network, and even when booting this workstation at the 10.0.0.0 network 
as a thinclient. But not when booting as a workstation.
I tried with another client also, but the same thing.
When going in to shell and looking at mtab I see a line like this;
tmpfs /home tmpfs rw,relatime,mode=755 00

thats the only reference to the home dir. If looking in to /skole/tjener it is 
empty. No home0
If looking in to /home it is also empty.

Hope someone has an idea  /George


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Ämne: Re: no home-directory on diskless workstations [SOLVED]
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Datum: fredag 4 maj 2012 23:34

Hi,

> Sorry if I hijack your thread. If so, let me know, I will start a new.
> 
> I have a  similar problem. In diskless workstations I dont get home dir...
> 
> If I log in to a shell on the diskless workstation and do
> cat /etc/mtab
> I see an entry showing that tjener.intern:/home0 is mounted at
> /skole/tjener/home0 but that dir is empty.. Nothing seems to be mounted.
> 
> The workstation is added to workstation-hosts  nis-group in Gosa2
> 
> I guess my problem is that I removed the lvm-group skole+tjener+home0 and
> mounted the /skole/tjener/home0 to a nfs share like this:
> 10.0.2.10:/home_edu /skole/tjener/home0 nfs
> rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr          0       0 That works very
> nicely with thinclients.. Maybe it causes a problem with how skolelinux
> exports the homedir to discless workstations?
> 
> Even I would like to know more about how discless workstation mounts there
> homedir..
> 
> I guess there has to be other people putting the homedir outside the server
> installation? If so, does it work for you? (So I can exlcude that from the
> list of probable causes..)

it helped to assign a different IP to the diskless workstation in gosa. After 
adding it again to the  nis-group workstation-hosts in Gosa2 
/skole/tjener/home0 is mounted.

Georg


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Re: Content and translation status for the debian-edu-squeeze manual

2012-05-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Oliver,

On Mittwoch, 9. Mai 2012, Olivier Vitrat wrote:
> I've tested & documented the 2 FIXME about joining the SKOLELINUX Domain
> with Windows XP and Vista/7 client in the wiki.

very cool, thanks!


cheers,
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Bug#672227: RoM: please remove lwat

2012-05-09 Thread Holger Levsen
package: ftp.debian.org
x-debbugs-cc: debian-edu@lists.debian.org

Hi,

given the fact that lwat has not seen a maintainer upload in Debian sid since 
2008 and that it doesnt work with php5 >= 5.4 I hereby request the removal of 
lwat from Debian sid main.

#658893 [S|  |  ] [lwat] Call-time pass-by-reference has been removed from 
php5 (>= 5.4) 
 
Outstanding bugs -- Important bugs; Unclassified (1 bug)
#669810 [i|  |  ] [lwat] lwat: transition towards Apache 2.4

(I'm filing this request as a RoM as the Debian Edu team has been the defacto 
maintainer in 2009-2010 (but only uploaded in Debian Edu but with access to 
the same svn repo)... since 2011 Debian Edu has switched away from lwat to 
GOsa².)


cheers,
Holger



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Re: no home-directory on diskless workstations

2012-05-09 Thread George
Hi,

sorry for all mails.. I checked out mount on tjener, for home it looks like 
this;
10.0.2.10:/home_edu on /skole/tjener/home0 type nfs 
(rw,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr,addr=10.0.2.10)

If I go in to the chroot and do mount I see this;
/dev/mapper/vg_system-root on /srv/nfs4/home0 type ext3 
(rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered)

and this;
10.0.2.10:/home_edu on /skole/tjener/home0 type nfs 
(rw,relatime,vers=3,rsize=8192,wsize=8192,namlen=255,hard,proto=tcp,timeo=14,retrans=2,sec=sys,mountaddr=10.0.2.10,mountvers=3,mountport=33191,mountproto=udp,addr=10.0.2.10)

The first entry in chroot referring to /srv/nfs4/home0 I dont understand. The 
dir /srv inside the chroot is empty.. Nothing there.
Outside the chroot, on tjener, it contains subdirs like this: /srv/nfs4/home0 
but home0 is empty...

When logging in to a thin client and after that issuing "mount" on tjener 
(outside chroot) this entry appears;
gvfs-fuse-daemon on /skole/tjener/home0/george/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon 
(rw,nosuid,nodev,user=george)

Inside chroot I see this;
gvfs-fuse-daemon on /skole/tjener/home0/stutes/.gvfs type fuse.gvfs-fuse-daemon 
(rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=1003,group_id=1003)

But when logging in to a diskless workstation no such thing appears. That I 
guess is ok?

Unfortunatley I cant try to make a manual mount from the diskless workstation 
because I cant gain root access. I can ping the nfs-server though. (10.0.2.10)

I hope my description is clear enough. This problem is starting to wear on my 
nerves.. Hoping someone can help.
Noone using san or nas for homedirs on debian-edu? If so, how have you set it 
up?

Sincerely   /George

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Datum: onsdag 9 maj 2012 10:00

Hi Georg,

Tx for your advice. 
I removed the client and recreated 
it with another ip, enabled dhcp, enabled dns and added it to nis-groups
 workstations and all-hosts.. Rebooted the workstation.

Still no luck. It does not mount the homedir..

I
 don't really know where to look next. Could it have anything to do with
 the /skole/tjener/home0 being mounted at the server from a nfs host? I dont 
think it should affect the exports from the chroot, but thats the only change 
Ive done with the homedir.

It
 works without a glitch when booting thin-clients from 192.168.1.0 
network, and even when booting this workstation at the 10.0.0.0 network 
as a thinclient. But not when booting as a workstation.
I tried with another client also, but the same thing.
When going in to shell and looking at mtab I see a line like this;
tmpfs /home tmpfs rw,relatime,mode=755 00

thats the only reference to the home dir. If looking in to /skole/tjener it is 
empty. No home0
If looking in to /home it is also empty.

Hope someone has an idea  /George


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Ämne: Re: no home-directory on diskless workstations [SOLVED]
Till: debian-edu@lists.debian.org
Datum: fredag 4 maj 2012 23:34

Hi,

> Sorry if I hijack your thread. If so, let me know, I will start a new.
> 
> I have a  similar
 problem. In
 diskless workstations I dont get home dir...
> 
> If I log in to a shell on the diskless workstation and do
> cat /etc/mtab
> I see an entry showing that tjener.intern:/home0 is mounted at
> /skole/tjener/home0 but that dir is empty.. Nothing seems to be mounted.
> 
> The workstation is added to workstation-hosts  nis-group in Gosa2
> 
> I guess my problem is that I removed the lvm-group skole+tjener+home0 and
> mounted the /skole/tjener/home0 to a nfs share like this:
> 10.0.2.10:/home_edu /skole/tjener/home0 nfs
> rsize=8192,wsize=8192,timeo=14,intr          0       0 That works very
> nicely with thinclients.. Maybe it causes a problem with how skolelinux
> exports the homedir to discless workstations?
> 
> Even I would like to know more about how discless workstation mounts there
>
 homedir..
> 
> I guess there has to be other people putting the homedir outside the server
> installation? If so, does it work for you? (So I can exlcude that from the
> list of probable causes..)

it helped to assign a different IP to the diskless workstation in gosa. After 
adding it again to the  nis-group workstation-hosts in Gosa2 
/skole/tjener/home0 is mounted.

Georg


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Re: no home-directory on diskless workstations

2012-05-09 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[George]
> Could it have anything to do with the /skole/tjener/home0 being
> mounted at the server from a nfs host? I dont think it should affect
> the exports from the chroot, but thats the only change Ive done with
> the homedir.

This might be the cause, as it is problematic (impossible?) to export a
NFS mounted directory via NFS.  Did you change the automount map to get
the client to mount from the other NFS server, or are the client trying
to NFS mount from tjener?  I would recommend making sure clients mount
from the real NFS server, and not try to re-export it via tjener.

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Thin Client sessions freeze with certain applications

2012-05-09 Thread RalfGesellensetter
Dear list,

a German school is trying to upgrade to squeaze.
Years ago, it was Philipp who helped them out to
have their thin clients work.

There is a very detailed logging page in our Wiki,
in short, thin clients will freeze if users start
openoffice. This is not the case for direct sessions
from LTSP server. 

My crystal ball hints to insufficient RAM / missing swap,
but of course, there might also be an issue with the
network cards/driver of the thin clients.

I am not deep familiar enough with current locations
of corresponding log files, for you it might be 
a quick guess, however.

Please consult
http://wiki.skolelinux.de/HolderbergSchule
(mostly German) for more details.

Regards
Ralf


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Fwd: Weitere Pakete installieren?

2012-05-09 Thread RalfGesellensetter
briefly: where can I place third party deb packages
(like geogebra, bluej) to be installed over pxe?
--- Begin Message ---
Hallo,

die Arbeitsstationen werden über pxe/Netzwerk installiert. 
Zusätzlich würde ich gerne Greenfoot und Smartboard mitinstallieren lassen. 
Wo speichere ich auf dem tjener die .deb Dateien, damit sie bei der 
Installation gefunden werden und
welche Änderungen werden in der debian-edu-install.dat eingefügt?

Danke
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Re: Content and translation status for the debian-edu-squeeze manual

2012-05-09 Thread David Prévot
Hi,

TL;DR: let's consider a string freeze from Friday 11 to Wednesday 16
May, in order to allow proper translation update and review.

Le 09/05/2012 05:09, Holger Levsen a écrit :
> On Mittwoch, 9. Mai 2012, Olivier Vitrat wrote:
>> I've tested & documented the 2 FIXME about joining the SKOLELINUX Domain
>> with Windows XP and Vista/7 client in the wiki.
> 
> very cool, thanks!

+1

I intend to upload the last up to date version in a week (Wednesday 16
May). The German translation is already up to date (thanks Wolfgang who
also fixed some typos), and I'll ask for other translations update
Friday or Saturday (the manual being currently fully available in five
languages, I'd love to keep this internationalized status as far as
possible). So, if you plan to make any more change in the manual,
please, just do it now.

Regards

David




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Re: no home-directory on diskless workstations

2012-05-09 Thread George
Hi,

Thanks. I guessed that but couldnt really debug it. I looked 
at the auto.* files and in the ldap settings using ldapvi, but I cant 
see where the map for the automounter are.. Do you have a pointer where I
 can read up on this?

Googling gives me a lot on setting up ldap 
and the automounter, but I still dont understand how to change this. 
(Since I dont find the settings...)

Regards  /George

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Till: debian-edu@lists.debian.org
Datum: onsdag 9 maj 2012 14:15

[George]
> Could it have anything to do with the /skole/tjener/home0 being
> mounted at the server from a nfs host? I dont think it should affect
> the exports from the chroot, but thats the only change Ive done with
> the homedir.

This might be the cause, as it is problematic (impossible?) to export a
NFS mounted directory via NFS.  Did you change the automount map to get
the client to mount from the other NFS server, or are the client trying
to NFS mount from tjener?  I would recommend making sure clients mount
from the real NFS server, and not try to re-export it via tjener.

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Petter Reinholdtsen


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