Re: What is the default value for the Multi-Arch field?

[Johannes Schauer]

Hi,

Quoting Thomas Hood (2014-09-04 15:42:00)
> On 3 September 2014 10:28, Johannes Schauer  wrote:
> > Can we somehow fix that?
> >
> > CC-ing Thomas Hood as he introduced that change into the spec.
> 
> Please note that at that time (Octobler 2013) I was trying to clarify
> and expand the explanation in order to reflect what I thought was
> intended, not to change those prescriptions on my own (nonexistent)
> authority. I was told, however, that I shouldn't revise that document
> (but presumably create a new page for the purpose of explaining how to
> interpret the spec) and vorlon reverted some of my changes. I
> subsequently suggested and now suggest again that the rest of my
> changes be reverted.

as of today the spec still says "none". Who would have the authority to revert
it back?

cheers, josch


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Re: [Multiarch-devel] What is the default value for the Multi-Arch field?

[Steve Langasek]

On Sat, Oct 11, 2014 at 09:18:35AM +0200, Johannes Schauer wrote:
> Hi,

> Quoting Thomas Hood (2014-09-04 15:42:00)
> > On 3 September 2014 10:28, Johannes Schauer  wrote:
> > > Can we somehow fix that?

> > > CC-ing Thomas Hood as he introduced that change into the spec.

> > Please note that at that time (Octobler 2013) I was trying to clarify
> > and expand the explanation in order to reflect what I thought was
> > intended, not to change those prescriptions on my own (nonexistent)
> > authority. I was told, however, that I shouldn't revise that document
> > (but presumably create a new page for the purpose of explaining how to
> > interpret the spec) and vorlon reverted some of my changes. I
> > subsequently suggested and now suggest again that the rest of my
> > changes be reverted.

> as of today the spec still says "none". Who would have the authority to revert
> it back?

Reverted the no->none change.

Those changes that were not reverted, I regarded as reasonable text
clarifications that did not change the meaning of the spec.  I overlooked
this particular incompatibility with the implementation at the time, sorry
about that.

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Re: ETA for string freeze / upload planning? (especially for L10n teams)

[Guillem Jover]

Hi!

On Tue, 2014-10-07 at 20:25:33 +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> yesterday quite a few changed / added strings were added to the master
> repository.
> 
> Since the Freeze is quickly approaching I wanted to ask when the
> strings stabilize, i.e. translation teams (which might require some
> time for review!) should start working on the updates.

As I mentioned in
, in
principle I should have stopped doing mass string changes two months
before the freeze. I'm not aware of any such change that might have
slipped into 1.17.14, but maybe I missed some. Supposedly the string
changes there were for new features and similar.

The string freeze would still be two weeks before the freeze, but I
realize it might be too tight? Because dpkg will require 10 days
before the freeze to migrate, hmmm.

> Also is there a plan for future uploads (before the Freeze). IIRC, the
> last possible date would be around October 25th.

Probably some more, but if there's any string change, it should be
pretty targetted and specific. No general text rewrites and similar,
or string cleanups.

I guess, I'll be preparing a CfT soon, so that translators do have
time to get ready, even if few more strings might change during the
coming 1/2 weeks.

Thanks,
Guillem


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Accepted dpkg 1.17.17 (source all) into unstable

[Guillem Jover]

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Description:
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   [ Guillem Jover ]
   * Add dpkg-vendor, Dpkg/File.pm and Dpkg/Util.pm to the list of files with
 translatable strings, so that they can be translated.
   * Fix some typos for versioned and mentioned in comments and changelogs.
   * Mark for translation and unify "rm cleanup" string in dpkg.
   * Mark for translation and improve dselect method handling error messages.
   * Defer trigger processing if the package does not fulfill dependencies.
 Closes: #671711
   * Do not write to the database when changing selections with --dry-run.
 Closes: #764673
   * Add missing imports from Dpkg::BuildProfiles in dpkg-genchanges.
 Regression introduced in dpkg 1.17.14. Closes: #764216
 Reported by Johannes Schauer .
   * Initialize dependencies with the correct minimum version from a symbols
 file with multiple SONAMEs in dpkg-shlibdeps.
 Thanks to Jérémy Bobbio . Closes: #764721
   * Perl modules:
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   when parsing the DEB_BUILD_PROFILES environment variable.
   Thanks to Johannes Schauer .
 - New Dpkg::Getopt private module.
 - Document public module Dpkg.
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   * Add support for --host-arch, --host-type, --target-arch and --target-type
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 dpkg-architecture. This restores the ability to specify the target
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   * Do not modify the topic variable values in list functions in perl code.
   * List Dpkg::Exit and Dpkg::Interface::Storable as public modules in
 libdpkg-perl package description.
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Re: ETA for string freeze / upload planning? (especially for L10n teams)

[Helge Kreutzmann]

Hello Guillem,
On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 06:27:59AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
> On Tue, 2014-10-07 at 20:25:33 +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> > yesterday quite a few changed / added strings were added to the master
> > repository.
> > 
> > Since the Freeze is quickly approaching I wanted to ask when the
> > strings stabilize, i.e. translation teams (which might require some
> > time for review!) should start working on the updates.
> 
> As I mentioned in
> , in
> principle I should have stopped doing mass string changes two months
> before the freeze. I'm not aware of any such change that might have
> slipped into 1.17.14, but maybe I missed some. Supposedly the string
> changes there were for new features and similar.

I just wondered because the man pages got 65 fuzzy and 15 new strings.
I'm almost done with working on them, most of the are rather small
changes. But as they appeared the moment you release the last version
(well, the one with the build problems, not the ones fixing them) I
wondered if there were more changes in the pipeline.

> The string freeze would still be two weeks before the freeze, but I
> realize it might be too tight? Because dpkg will require 10 days
> before the freeze to migrate, hmmm.

For German this is no problem. But e.g. Swedish (the third best
translated man pages) has 96+33 strings to do, and polish (the next
one) 360+134 (though I don't know how active the polish dpkg
translation is).

Usually, for much smaller (Debconf) templates, there is a string
freeze, a 10 day call for translations (enabling teams to translate
and review the changes) and than an upload. 

> > Also is there a plan for future uploads (before the Freeze). IIRC, the
> > last possible date would be around October 25th.
> 
> Probably some more, but if there's any string change, it should be
> pretty targetted and specific. No general text rewrites and similar,
> or string cleanups.
> 
> I guess, I'll be preparing a CfT soon, so that translators do have
> time to get ready, even if few more strings might change during the
> coming 1/2 weeks.

Thanks. I tentitavely thought about a CfT as well, unfortunately
Bubulle had to reduce his i18n work so I have a lot to do for getting
in "forgotten" German translations in various packages.

Greetings

   Helge

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Distribution: unstable
Urgency: low
Maintainer: Dpkg Developers 
Changed-By: Guillem Jover 
Description:
 dpkg   - Debian package management system
 dpkg-dev   - Debian package development tools
 dselect- Debian package management front-end
 libdpkg-dev - Debian package management static library
 libdpkg-perl - Dpkg perl modules
Closes: 671711 764216 764673 764721
Changes:
 dpkg (1.17.17) unstable; urgency=low
 .
   [ Guillem Jover ]
   * Add dpkg-vendor, Dpkg/File.pm and Dpkg/Util.pm to the list of files with
 translatable strings, so that they can be translated.
   * Fix some typos for versioned and mentioned in comments and changelogs.
   * Mark for translation and unify "rm cleanup" string in dpkg.
   * Mark for translation and improve dselect method handling error messages.
   * Defer trigger processing if the package does not fulfill dependencies.
 Closes: #671711
   * Do not write to the database when changing selections with --dry-run.
 Closes: #764673
   * Add missing imports from Dpkg::BuildProfiles in dpkg-genchanges.
 Regression introduced in dpkg 1.17.14. Closes: #764216
 Reported by Johannes Schauer .
   * Initialize dependencies with the correct minimum version from a symbols
 file with multiple SONAMEs in dpkg-shlibdeps.
 Thanks to Jérémy Bobbio . Closes: #764721
   * Perl modules:
 - Allow multiple whitespace in Dpkg::BuildProfiles::get_build_profiles()
   when parsing the DEB_BUILD_PROFILES environment variable.
   Thanks to Johannes Schauer .
 - New Dpkg::Getopt private module.
 - Document public module Dpkg.
 - Document public module Dpkg::Gettext.
 - Mark Dpkg::BuildProfiles as a public module.
 - Document all public module versions in a CHANGES section.
 - Remove EXPORTED from POD section titles.
 - Document private modules as such in a CHANGES section.
   * Set the DEB_TARGET_* dpkg-architecture variables from architecture.mk.
 Missed in dpkg 1.17.14.
   * Initialize DEB_TARGET_ARCH variable without requiring DEB_HOST_ARCH,
 which is not being set at all when querying for DEB_TARGET_ variables.
   * Normalize dpkg-architecture command-line parsing, so that «--option=value»
 «--option value», «-ovalue» and «-o value» will all be accepted.
   * Add long option names for all dpkg-architecture short options.
   * Add support for --host-arch, --host-type, --target-arch and --target-type
 long options in dpkg-buildpackage. These will get passed through to
 dpkg-architecture. This restores the ability to specify the target
 architecture when building cross-compilers. Regression introduced in
 dpkg 1.17.14. Reported by Helmut Grohne .
   * Do not modify the topic variable values in list functions in perl code.
   * List Dpkg::Exit and Dpkg::Interface::Storable as public modules in
 libdpkg-perl package description.
 .
   [ Updated programs translations ]
   * German (Sven Joachim).
   * Vietnamese (Trần Ngọc Quân).
 .
   [ Updated scripts translations ]
   * German (Helge Kreutzmann).
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