Bug#158079: ITP: aseqview -- ALSA Sequencer Event Viewer
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-25 Severity: wishlist * Package name: aseqview Version : 0.1.4 Upstream Author : Takashi Iwai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.alsa-project.org/~iwai/ * License : GPL Description : ALSA Sequencer Event Viewer ASeqView is an ALSA sequencer user-client which works as event viewer. It visualizes received events, e.g. note-on/off, controls, pitch wheels, using bar graphs. -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux TK150122 2.4.19 #1 Tue Aug 6 20:38:52 CEST 2002 i586 Locale: LANG=C, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- no debconf information
Bug#158102: ITP: spiralsynthmodular -- Object orientated modular softsynth / sequencer / sampler
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-08-25 Severity: wishlist * Package name: spiralsynthmodular Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : Dave Griffiths <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.pawfal.org/Software/SSM/ * License : GPL Description : Object orientated modular softsynth / sequencer / sampler You can use it in a fairly straight forward way to make tracks with, or get very experimental. Audio or control data can be freely passed between the plugins, there is no difference. Data can also be fed back on itself for chaotic effects. It depends on the new fltk 1.1 libraries. I'll take over the old ones from the current fltk maintainer and package the new ones. SpiralSynthModular and rather old but working fltk1.1 packages can be downloaded from http://people.debian.org/~swan . -- System Information: Debian Release: testing/unstable Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux TK150122 2.4.19 #1 Tue Aug 6 20:38:52 CEST 2002 i586 Locale: LANG=C, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- no debconf information
Orphaning my packages
Hello! [Please CC me!] I have some packages left I'd like to orphan: fltk, fltk1.1: The Fast Light Toolkit (www.fltk.org). A C++ GUI toolkit. spiralsynthmodular (http://www.pawfal.org/Software/SSM/) : a modular software synth. Needs fltk. aseqview: displays ALSA synthesizer events. I'd be glad if someone could orphan the packages that nobody wants to take right now, because I don't have access to a debian system to do it myself. Thanks, Stefan
Bug#141450: ITP: jackit -- JACK low-latency sound server
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-04-06 Severity: wishlist * Package name: jackit Version : 0.24.2 Upstream Author : Paul Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://jackit.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL/LGPL Description : JACK low-latency sound server JACK allows the connection of multiple applications to an audio device, as well as allowing them to share audio between themselves. It will be the output "device" for professionial sound applications like ardour (ardour.sourceforge.net), it soon will be supported by alsaplayer, ecasound, etc. Note that I can't call my package "jack" because there already is a jack package in debian, so I called it jackit for now. I'm still discussing the name with upstream though. I'm no DD yet but I already have found a sponsor for the package. It's already available at http://www.shockfrosted.org/debian -- System Information Debian Release: 3.0 Architecture: i386 Kernel: Linux TK150122 2.4.17 #3 Thu Apr 4 18:11:20 CEST 2002 i586 Locale: LANG=C, [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Recommending non-free software
Hello, I'm the maintainer of the snd and snd-dmotif packages. In the upstream author's opinion the gtk+ version (snd) is far inferiour to the openmotif version (snd-dmotif), so I would like to add a note about that in README.Debian, so that users that don't know snd yet will install the more useful package snd-dmotif (which is in contrib, since openmotif is non-free). I know that debian prefers free software, but the interests of our users have even more priority, so I think it would be right to add such a note. Any objections? regards, Stefan -- Wanna listen to my music? <-- > http://www.shockfrosted.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommending non-free software
Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > I know that debian prefers free software, but the interests of our users > > have even more priority, so I think it would be right to add such a > > note. > The interests of our users do not have *more* priority, as if they > were ranked. But if both conflict, you have to decide for one. And I thought that the order in which they are called implies a ranking. > Perhaps if you could say *why* upstream believes this to be the > case...then you might get better advice. Simply because gtk+ support is newer and still not finished. >From the README: Gtk+ is not as sophisticated as Motif, and the port is still somewhat new, so there are a number of differences and rough-edges in that version of Snd. The primary differences are 1) Gtk+ paned-window widget only accepts two panes. This means that simple boxes are used throughout rather than panes. 2) Gtk+ colors are a bottomless pit; colors may or may not work right. 3) Gtk+ file selection dialog's filter is restricted to a simple string using "*" -- the just-sounds button of Motif, and the associated sound file extension list are omitted. When I asked him the last time if gtk+ 2.0 support is already better then gtk+ 1.2 one, he said no - and that he's thinking about removing gtk-support from snd altogether, because gtk is such a mess... And after telling him that for snd this would mean to be removed from the main distribution, he said that he would prefer no snd to gtk+ snd. regards, Stefan -- Wanna listen to my music? <-- > http://www.shockfrosted.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommending non-free software
Samuel Hocevar wrote: >Yes. Debian does prefer free software, so let's use free software > and distribute free software. Are you and/or the snd author aware of > the existence of LessTif? snd is even on their compatibility list: > http://chronos.cs.msu.su/LessTif/apps.html >If I'm not terribly mistaken, this could lead to completely free snd > packages. Of course, I should have mentioned this. LessTif doesn't work for snd, so this compatibility list seems to be wrong or (more probably) outdated. Upstream doesn't support lesstif anymore. regards, Stefan -- Wanna listen to my music? <-- > http://www.shockfrosted.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommending non-free software
Steve Langasek wrote: > > Of course, I should have mentioned this. LessTif doesn't work for snd, > > so this compatibility list seems to be wrong or (more probably) > > outdated. > > Upstream doesn't support lesstif anymore. > This has been mentioned before; however, the goal of the Lesstif project > is to provide complete compatibility -- ABI and API -- with the Motif > libraries. The only reason snd would not be compatible with Lesstif > (regardless of whether it's supported by upstream) would be a bug in > Lesstif; and overall, the number of bugs in Lesstif is going down, not > up. When was the last time you tried to compile snd with Lesstif? Today. It didn't work. Maybe it will work one day, but now it doesn't. And it doesn't make sense if I compile the program with lesstif, as long as upstream doesn't want to support it, because if people file bug reports against snd in debian, and I forward it to him, he'll most probably not want to deal with them - because it simply is not recommended to compile snd with lesstif. Until snd works reasonably with lesstif, or gtk+, I think it would be good to tell the users, that the motif version is the version that upstream prefers. regards, Stefan -- Wanna listen to my music? <-- > http://www.shockfrosted.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommending non-free software
Marcus Brinkmann wrote: > > Simply because gtk+ support is newer and still not finished. > Then the solution is to improve it. I am still hoping that gtk support will improve, but at the moment, it doesn't seem that upstream wants to spend much time on it. Maybe he will some time in the future, but not now. > [...] > All this sounds like minor problems, if they are problems at all. I think > we should not value the GUI preferences of the author over Debian's goal to > provide a completely free operating system to the user. Well, but the author wrote the program, and he used the openmotif library, and he says that his program works best with it. He provides an alternative that doesn't work as good. Shouldn't our users be told what's supposed to work better, namely the motif version? > You gave him the wrong alternative. If he abandons the Gtk support, and snd > is worth to be used on a free software system at all, other people will pick > it up and fork development. It's good to think in long terms, too, but at the moment I think about _now_. Now I think it wold be good to let users know the status quo of the gtk version in the description of the package. The upstream README.Snd does state that the motif version's better anyway. regards, Stefan -- Wanna listen to my music? <-- > http://www.shockfrosted.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Recommending non-free software
Samuel Hocevar wrote: >Well, the interface has a few glitches, but it remains extremely > usable. At least it compiled flawlessly against lesstif on my Sid box > (both snd 5.8 and 5.9). Did you also compile the xm module (configure --with-static-xm)? I get errors when trying to do that, and the build fails. And you need the xm module to customize the gui with guile. This allows for example the use of Dave Phillip's extensions, which makes many features of snd more easily accesible. regards, Stefan -- Wanna listen to my music? <-- > http://www.shockfrosted.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
