Re: Broken applications: Could we be honest?

2006-07-08 Thread Oliver Rother

Art Edwards wrote:


Unless such core pieces as the debugging tool (ddd) and the data display tool
(xmgrace) are working, it is dishonest to pretend that the 64-bit version 
is ready for testing. 


ddd and grace are in Debian testing (etch) amd64 and work fine. So where 
exactly is the issue?


We use an mixture of testing and unstable here with the following 
priority setting /etc/apt/preferences:


Package: *
Pin: release a=testing
Pin-Priority: -1
Package: *
Pin: release a=unstable
Pin-Priority: -2

So, if a package is still brocken in testing (as parts of gnome at least 
at box installation time), we take it from unstable with


apt-get install PACKAGE -t unstable,

including its dependencies.

So far, we observerd no major issues.

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Re: Broken applications: Could we be honest?

2006-07-08 Thread Oliver Rother

Jimmy Tang wrote:

At the risk of imposing what we do at our work place onto your work 
flow, i find that users generally should have access to better 
debuggers/profilers than what ships with standard gnu distros. 


Well, if you intend to start a flame war on the lists... but enough on that.


presumably if you are doing scientific computations, you probably have
access to a commercial compiler? 


Oh, we do. Consider an project with a timeline of many years or even 
decades of years. would you choose a non onepn source (commercial) 
compiler/debugger for that project? I'm pretty sure, you won't.


also shouldnt users be using programs like xmgrace 


Talking about commerical applications from your point of view - why use 
free software for data analysis when powerful commercial packages like 
IDL are available?


Olli

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