XF86 betas (Re: D68K: The next step...)

1996-08-02 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble
llucius wrote:
> Actually, I've not gotten to "The Next Step" yet anyway.  I finally bit 
> the bullet and downloaded XFree86 (whew!), compiled it, and am now going 
> through all the X related packages.

Speaking of X, as a member of the beta team (XFree86), I have access to
the source code for the XF86 betas. Would it be worthwhile setting up
packages for these in the contrib section? In particular, I'm kind of
annoyed that if I want support for my W32p (revision A), I have to go
to 3.1.2E - and it's not available for Debian. Net result: either I
have proper support for my card, and can't install new X-based packages
(dpkg barfs at the postinst and configuration stages), or I'm stuck with
the SVGA server.

Before you ask - no, I am _not_ going to provide the source code to
the betas to the world in general. Nor diffs. (I'm just trying to get
16/24bpp modes going on the cards - and getting nowhere fast, it seems.
Oh well, maybe by Feb next year...)

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Re: XF86 betas (Re: D68K: The next step...)

1996-08-02 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble
> Mr Stuart Lamble writes:
> >annoyed that if I want support for my W32p (revision A), I have to go
> >to 3.1.2E - and it's not available for Debian. Net result: either I
> >have proper support for my card, and can't install new X-based packages
> >(dpkg barfs at the postinst and configuration stages), or I'm stuck with
> >the SVGA server.
> 
> Not at all.  Install the svga server using dselect.  Put it on hold.
> Get the 3.1.2E server binary, install it, adjust /etc/X11/config.
> 
> I'm doing just this to run the current Mach64 card, since my RAMDAC
> isn't supported by the non-beta 3.1.2.  No problems at all.

Strictly speaking, if you install the 3.1.2E server, you're supposed to
install the 3.1.2D libs as well - 3.1.2D was a complete replacement for
3.1.2, and 3.1.2E is supposed to be a drop-in server replacement for the
3.1.2D server when it expired.

That's what I'm carping on about. :-)

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Bug#4003: minor typo in dchanges

1996-08-02 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble
Package: dchanges
Version: 3.4

If dchanges finds an old style file name, it gives the following messages:


Deb file ok: libelf-dev_0.5.2-1_i386.deb
Deb file ok: libelf_0.5.2-1_i386.deb
WARNING: old style file name: libelf-0.5.2-1.tar.gz
  should be: libelf_0.5.2-1.deb
WARNING: old style file name: libelf-0.5.2-1.diff.gz
  should be: libelf_0.5.2-1.diff.gz
File ok: libelf_0.5.2-1.changes
2 warning(s) - hit return to continue


The problem with .tar.gz can be fixed by applying the following (trivial :)
diff.

--- dchanges.oldWed Jul 31 20:56:47 1996
+++ dchangesWed Jul 31 20:57:36 1996
@@ -477,7 +477,7 @@
   if [ "$TAR_FN" = "${SOURCE}-${VERSION}.tar.gz" ]
   then
stderr  "WARNING: old style file name: ${TAR_FN}"
-   warning "  should be: ${SOURCE}_${VERSION}.deb"
+   warning "  should be: ${SOURCE}_${VERSION}.tar.gz"
   else
stderr "ERROR: Source file incorrectly named: $TAR_FN"
error  "   expected ${SOURCE}_${VERSION}.tar.gz"




unzip_5.12-13 uploaded to master

1996-08-04 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble
Hmm. Forgot to mention that there's a new maintainer. Oh, well.
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Urgency: Low
Maintainer: Stuart Lamble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Source: unzip
Version: 5.12-13
Binary:  unzip
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 unzip: De-archiver for .zip files
Changes:
 Uses dpkg-name to move the new .deb file rather than manually moving it;
 fixed lack of multi-architecture support (Bug #3916); added a long
 description (Bug #3693)
Files:
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zip_2.01-13 uploaded to master

1996-08-04 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble
Another one that I forgot to mention the new maintainer in...oh, well,
put it down to a late night. :-)
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Source: zip
Version: 2.01-13
Binary:  zip
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 zip: Archiver for .zip files
Changes:
 Uses dpkg-name rather than manually moving the .deb file; added
 multi-architecture support (Bug #3934); added a long description
 (Bug #3692)
Files:
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vim_3.0-6 uploaded to master

1996-08-04 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble
Hopefully, this will be the last modifications made to vim 3.0 - version
4.2 is out (with restrictions on distribution on CDs), and 4.3 is due in
a few weeks (without those restrictions). I'll be upgrading the sources
to 4.3 when it's released.

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Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: Stuart Lamble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Source: vim
Version: 3.0-6
Binary:  vim
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 vim: VI iMproved - enhanced vi editor
Changes:
 New maintainer; fixed lack of multi-architecture support (Bug #3924);
 added a "Depends" field (now depends on libc5 and ncurses3.0, as it
 should); corrected the permissions of postinst and prerm.
Files:
 e0cd25093f4a8889f6f5a4a41ab9d4d3  470134  editors  -  vim_3.0-6.tar.gz
 6c9dbcfd3e864dd448d00114408b49b0  15989  editors  -  vim_3.0-6.diff.gz
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Re: New virtual packages suggestion (make)

1996-08-06 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble
> The problem with this approach is that it breaks everything that assumes  
> that make is the GNU make - for instance, the kernel. And probably several  
> debian.rules files.

It would probably be a fair assumption to say that make, under Linux, is
GNU make: the average user would have this installed. I very much doubt
that anybody, except very serious developers, would have any other version
of make installed.

I don't believe that this sort of a change is necessary.

-- 
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http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/ for all your PC software requirements. ;-)




Re: Bug#4078: lynx should be in `contrib'

1996-08-13 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble
Michael Meskes wrote:
> Ian Jackson writes:
> > No, because packages which depend on contrib packages must go in
> > contrib too.
> 
> Hmm, that wasn't what was said a while ago when we moved xforms.
> 
> I'd like to ask the other developers what they think. While I see th elogic
> behind your approach I still think LyX should be an official part of Debian.
> 
> What happens if I recompile it statically? Would it go into the standard
> tree then?

If you're going to recompile it statically, I beg of you, provide a non-
statically linked version too (in a separate package, perhaps). One of my
major gripes about many programs is that they are larger than they need to
be, because they are statically linked, and I've got the libraries installed
on my system.

I've only got 350MB allocated to Linux...! :-)

-- 
Windows is not the answer. Windows is the question. Linux is the answer.
http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/ for all your PC software requirements. ;-)




Re: CC's on this mailing list

1996-08-15 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble
> Dale Scheetz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > In fact it would be nice if this message didn't go to you twice, but
> > I don't see any easy way to avoid this, short of writing more
> > functionality into the list manager.
> 
> I may have already said this, but for those interested, gnus will
> generally remove duplicates for you if you want it to.  It keeps a
> cache of incoming mail message ID's and can be cofigured to do
> anything you want with the duplicates.  I have it place them in a
> separate mail group which I just trash every now and then.

All very nice, but it dodges the major reason for people disliking duplicate
copies of messages: they pay for their PPP link (or UUCP feed, or whatever).
Identifying duplicates by their message IDs means that you have to download
both messages, unless you can do the filtering at your ISP's end of the link.

I'm not overly concerned personally at the moment - I'm at university, and
the government pays for my feed :-) - but it's generally not good etiquette
full stop.

-- 
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http://sunsite.unc.edu/mdw/ for all your PC software requirements. ;-)




Bug#4161: dev/idsn instead of isdn in MAKEDEV

1996-08-15 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble
> Package: base
> Version: 1.1.0-14
> 
> the: 
> makedev idsn$no c 45 $no $system
> makedev idsnctrl$no c 45 `math 64 + $no` $system
> should read:
> makedev idsn$no c 45 $no $system
> makedev idsnctrl$no c 45 `math 64 + $no` $system

You mean:

should read:
   makedev isdn$no   c 45 $no $system
   makedev [EMAIL PROTECTED]   c 45 `math 64 + $no` $system

perhaps? :-)




Location for libelf?

1996-08-18 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble
Ok, I've fiddled around, and have reached the stage where I can upload
libelf to master. The one question I have is: should it go into contrib,
or devel? Currently, the library is considered to be in alpha stages -
it's definitely usable, but there you are.

I seem to recall that alpha stuff should go into contrib; but recent
discussion on this list appears to contradict that. Anybody want to come
down one way or the other?

Cheers (and thanks).




Re: Uploaded: mount 2.5l-1

1996-08-19 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble
[snipped]
> Urgency: Low
   ^^^

Where a security fix is involved, shouldn't the urgency be a little bit
higher than "low"? (especially where the problem affects many systems.)




fsp_2.71-3 and libelf_0.5.2-1 uploaded

1996-08-25 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble

I've finally got around to doing these. I'm not entirely sure that
libelf belongs in devel, but since nobody has responded to my queries
on this matter... shrug. Bug me if I'm wrong.

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Format: 1.6
Distribution: unstable
Urgency: Low
Maintainer: Stuart Lamble <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Source: fsp
Version: 2.71-3
Binary:  fsp
Architecture:  i386 source
Description: 
 fsp: An alternative to anonymous FTP
Changes:
 - Fixed a typo in fhostcmd.1 (c/o Michael Meskes)
 - all man pages are now compressed with gzip -9
 - added postinst script to automatically add fspd to /etc/inetd.conf
 - added corresponding prerm to disable fspd. :-) (thanks to Michael Meskes
   for his help with these)
 - moved fspd.conf from the examples directory to /etc
 - added /etc/fspd.conf to the (new :-) conffiles listing
 - moved /usr/doc/examples/fsp to /usr/doc/fsp/examples
 - added a changelog (probably not in the right format, though),
 - removed the changes list from the copyright information file.
Files:
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Date: 24 Aug 96 09:01 UT
Format: 1.6
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Source: libelf
Version: 0.5.2-1
Binary:  libelf-dev libelf
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 libelf: an ELF object file access library
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 New packages - added the Debian control files.
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Bug#4272: ncftp core dumping

1996-08-27 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble

It didn't core dump on me, but it _did_ start going into an infinite
loop when the xterm reached around 180 columns. On investigation, the
problem appears to be the typedef:


typedef string char[160];


If the xterm is wider than around 160 characters, overruns start to
occur. This is Not a Good Thing(tm). Fixing this is not incredibly
difficult, but it _is_ tedious - I had a quick try yesterday, and
ncftp definitely started core dumping with the quick and dirty fix
I tried. *sighs*

Anybody want to forward this bug report (with this note attached :-)
to the upstream author? (the submitter was correct when he said he
thought it was an ncftp bug - it most definitely is.) In the worst
case, I'll submit a diff around the end of the year. (don't have time
before then to even _think_ about fiddling around with code that's
not mine to worry about. :-)




vim 4.2?

1996-09-13 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble

I've received a few emails since I took over vim, asking if vim 4.2
has yet been packaged in debian format. The stock response has been
that, since 4.2 introduced a condition - "distribute vim on a CD-ROM,
and you should/must send me a copy of that CD-ROM" - I decided not to.
Would it perhaps be reasonable to package up 4.2, and place it in the
non-free section, especially considering that 4.3 (currently in beta
test) will remove that condition?

It's been at least a month since I took over 3.0, and a number of
people are probably getting impatient :-)

Cheers.




Bug#4530: ld cannot find most shared libraries

1996-09-20 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble

Package: ldso
Version: 1.8.2-1

I've recently had problems linking programs non-statically with (e.g.) the
X11 libraries, etc. Static libraries are fine, shared have problems. Upon
investigation, and discussion with a friend, it appears that ld cannot find
files of the form:

  libfoo.so.1
  libfoo.so.1.2.3

etc. - there has to be a symlink libfoo.so for libfoo to be found. Upon
creating such symlinks, everything worked fine. (well, once I got rid of
the /lib/libc.so => /lib/libc.so.4 link, that is :-) Oops. :)

This is (IMO) a bug in the upstream sources. (I'm not sure whether this
is confined to certain directories or not, especially since libc doesn't
have this problem.)




contemplations of libelf

1996-09-27 Thread Mr Stuart Lamble

Well, after a lot of fiddling and hacking and threatening of dpkg, I finally
managed to get libelf compiling with 2.1.1.0 compliant sources. Before I
upload it, though, I want a few things cleared up:

  1) Should I rename the package to "libelf0" (Replaces: and Conflicts: libelf)
 in the same way that libc has libc4 and libc5?
  2) Since libelf has a couple of header files also found in libc (which
 really shouldn't be there IMO, since libc doesn't implement those
 functions), I've added a Replaces: libc. Is this a Bad Thing(tm)? (it
 seemed the right thing to do when I was poking around the policy/
 programmers' manual...)

I'd appreciate responses; I don't want to tread on anybody's toes here...