Re: slink -> potato
yea...I just did an update today and something decided to remove /bin/sh during the upgrade...and didn't put it back before it was needed... so if something hoses for you just recreate it by linking it to like bash... Ivan On Fri, Oct 01, 1999 at 02:24:45PM +0200, andreas pålsson wrote: > Hello. > > I'm about to make an update of a base Slink-system to the unstable > Potato. > > Is there anything I should think of or preperations to be made before > updating? > > Why I do this is because I want to become a Debian-developer, and any > hints and tips are much appreciated. > > Sincerely... > Andreas > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---end quoted text--- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ivan E. Moore II Rev. Krusty http://www.tdyc.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Imagination is more important than knowledge - Albert Einstein -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- GPG KeyID=0E1A75E3 GPG Fingerprint=3291 F65F 01C9 A4EC DD46 C6AB FBBC D7FF 0E1A 75E3 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: slink -> potato
> > packages that conflict with them. An example is moving from the 1.1.2 > > KDE packages to the 2.0 ones, eg. from kdebase to kdebase-cvs etc. USing > > dselect and APT, what happens is that somehow installation of the new > > packages is tried first, and fails, and then deinstallation does not > > proceed. Soone needs to explicitely delete the old packages first and > > install the new ones after. That should be figured out by the package > > management tools. > > It is figured out by the tools, but it sounds like the KDE packages lack > the proper headers to tell what to do. it's more like they are extremly early .deb's and are still being tweaked. The first several rounds of them didn't even have proper conflicts/provides/etc stuff in them so the old packages would get removed after the new packages were unpacked and thus you'd end up with the new packages with missing files. Tho I haven't tested it yet, I'm assuming a Replaces line would cause them to be handled in the proper order. Ivan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ivan E. Moore II Rev. Krusty http://www.tdyc.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Imagination is more important than knowledge - Albert Einstein -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- GPG KeyID=0E1A75E3 GPG Fingerprint=3291 F65F 01C9 A4EC DD46 C6AB FBBC D7FF 0E1A 75E3 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
ITP sqmgrlog - report generation utility for squid
Unless someone else has beat me to it (and I missed it) I'm going to be uploading soon sqmgrlog. Sqmgrlog generates reports per user/ip/name from squid log file. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD pgpBY5n7hELET.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Qt going GPL ...
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:53:30PM +1200, Michael Beattie wrote: > On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 05:29:44PM -0500, David Starner wrote: > > > > I looked again, and http://incoming.debian.org still doesn't show it. > > The only things I can think of is that RevKrusty removed the packages > > himself (to upload versions that don't worry about the QPL-GPL > > problems), or some terribly freaky bug in the software that writes > > the webpage. > > kdesupport is on auric, kdelibs is on pandora (non-us) (dont ask me why, I > dont know) > KDE2 is doing alot with ssl stuff...konqueror, kmail, etc...kdelibs builds against libssl so it's in non-US. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD pgp5aOG76u74O.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Qt going GPL ...
> > > > Still in incoming... dont look at me :) > > I looked again, and http://incoming.debian.org still doesn't show it. > The only things I can think of is that RevKrusty removed the packages > himself (to upload versions that don't worry about the QPL-GPL > problems), or some terribly freaky bug in the software that writes > the webpage. > I had removed both to clean up licensing items at one point..then I removed kdelibs to drop it on non-US. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qt going GPL ...
On Mon, Sep 04, 2000 at 09:20:05PM +0200, Andreas Rottmann wrote: > Hugues Marilleau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Who is going to ITP kde ? > > > > I'm dreaming about an "apt-get install kde" ... > > > Rather task-kde ;-) (SCNR) > already have one. :) -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qt going GPL ...
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:44:06AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > > KDE2 is doing alot with ssl stuff...konqueror, kmail, etc...kdelibs builds > > against libssl so it's in non-US. > > > > Can you do a non-ssl version too for main? Otherwise American CD > manufacturers aren't going to be able to include it and therefore the rest > of KDE. (or will they? This whole topic is so confusing.) > > I'm going to have to do a similiar split for imap as the next version will > have SSL support. I guess I could..the question comes down to how many different versions of a package (or library) do we want? And what are the legal issues nowadays??? in the meantime I'll work on splitting off 2 seperate packages..1 with ssl and 1 without. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Qt going GPL ...
On Tue, Sep 05, 2000 at 01:53:12AM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > On Mon, 4 Sep 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > > > > in the meantime I'll work on splitting off 2 seperate packages..1 with > > ssl and 1 without. > > > > It may be easier just to build it twice, once with SSL and once > without. That's what I'm going to do. > I just want to make sure that binaries built against the non-ssl kdelibs package's will allow for the ssl functionality if used with the ssl kdelibs packages... for example...I build 2 different kdelibs..one with ssl one with out... kdebase comes along which has functionality that is only activitated when kdelibs is built with ssl...(ie..konqueror will have https support)...now, konqueror isn't built against libssl...so there is no requirement for it... I just need to find out whether kdelibs reports to kdebase during compile time whether it was built against ssl or not... Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ITP kdoc - C++ and IDL Source Documentation System
Description: C++ and IDL Source Documentation System KDOC creates cross-referenced documentation for C++ and CORBA IDL libraries directly from the source. Documentation can be embedded in special doccomments in the source. -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD pgpWQgoZXKVgI.pgp Description: PGP signature
ITP or rather upload... KDE
Ok...I leave for an extended weekend and Troll get's freaky on me! :) Since I've been basically doing this unofficially for almost 2 years now working with Stephan Kulow who was the maintainer/developer and who has since passed it on to me due to time and the fact he's not running woody and all...and since QT (which I also maintain currently) 2.2 will be GPL'd solving all those lovely issues of the past, I'm announcing my intent to do away with kde.tdyc.com and merge in all the KDE 2.x packages into main. These include the following: kdesupport (provides libuulib5, libmim1) - sup libraries needed for some KDE apps kdelibs - the core pieces (ssl and nonssl vers) kdebase (kdebase, -doc, -dev, kdewallpapers, and kdm) kdeadmin kdeutils kdegames kdegraphics kdemultimedia kdenetwork - kdetoys kdepim koffice kde-i18n (this is huge...all the locales broken down by language) .deb for each This will all happen after qt2.2 is released with the GPL lic and packaged/uploaded... (except for kdelibs and support which do not have the licensing issues) Ivan p.s. I think that's all the pieces..... -- ---- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD pgp4WlkCwBR7X.pgp Description: PGP signature
ITP: unixodbc
Description: ODBC tools libraries Binaries and libraries from the unixODBC package. COMPONENTS: . 1. libodbc.so (ODBC Driver Manager) 2. ODBCConfig (GUI Setup using libodbcinst.so) 3. libodbcinst.so (ODBC Installer/Setup) 4. odbcinst(cmd line UI for libodbcinst.so) 5. libini.a(ini file handler) 6. liblog.a(log handler) 7. libodbcdrvcfg1S.so (GUI config for server based sources... basic) 8. libodbcdrvcfg2S.so (GUI config for file based sources... basic) 9. liboplodbcS.so (GUI config for OpenLink's opl driver) 10. libodbcminiS.so (GUI config for MiniSQL driver) 11. libodbcmyS.so (GUI config for MySQL driver) 12. libodbcpgsqlS.so(GUI config for PostgreSQL driver) 13. libodbcmini.so (driver for MiniSQL) 14. libodbcmy.so(driver for MySQL) 15. libodbcpgsql.so (driver for PostgreSQL) 16. libodbctxt.so (driver for Text files) 17. dltest (simple cmd line tool) 18. isql(cmd line tool... batch & interactive SQL) 19. Driver Template (a template for Driver programmers) 20. DataManager (GUI to explore ODBC Data Sources) -- ---- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD pgpRNo02iewiG.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: ITP or rather upload... KDE
> I suggest you DON'T do away with kde.tdyc.com ... You have the > infrastructure in place already, use it as a repository for latest KDE and > people can just list it after the debian lines in their sources.list if > they want more bleeding edge stuff durring freezes and for releases. > > Just a suggestion. good point...plus the potato packages will still be desired. Ivan -- -------- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ITP or rather upload... KDE
On Wed, Sep 06, 2000 at 12:31:49PM +0200, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > > kdenetwork - > > > This will all happen after qt2.2 is released with the GPL lic and > > packaged/uploaded... > > (except for kdelibs and support which do not have the licensing issues) > > Be carefull, according to > http://developer.kde.org/documentation/licensing/licensing.html some parts > of kdenetwork are still licenced qpl. It may just need to recopy these > parts from an gpl'ed qt, but I do not know KDE or qt well enough. not according to the source code. I see GPL, LGPL, and Artistic. But I plan on doing yet another sweep of all the source, readme's, etc...prior to build and upload. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RFC: removal of libqt1g from woody
Hey, I'd like to remove qt1 from woody. I only seem to find 1 package that depends on it currently (tuxeyes) and due to the fact that it's non-free and qt2 is out with a gpl'd license and all, I think we should discourage it's use just as Troll is. Ivan -- ------------ Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RFC: removal of libqt1g from woody
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 07:35:44AM -0400, Brian Almeida wrote: > On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 04:16:03AM -0700, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > Hey, > > > > I'd like to remove qt1 from woody. I only seem to find 1 package that > > depends on it currently (tuxeyes) and due to the fact that it's non-free > > and qt2 is out with a gpl'd license and all, I think we should discourage > > it's > > use just as Troll is. > 'explorer' also depends on it (using the old qt1g package name): missed one..thanks. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and KDE
Hi, as Maintainer of KDE for Debian I'd like to chime in. kdelibs, kdesupport, and kdoc all are sitting in incoming. We had to wait till yesterday for qt2.2 to come out so that I could build it, then compile kde against it since the GPL'd status doesn't mean squat if you build against the old libs which aren't GPL'd. :) This was all discussed on debian-devel and I was interviewed by a few online magswhether any of that went anywhere is not my problem. On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 12:51:23PM -0300, Ben Woodhead wrote: > >From the article I have read about debian Stand On KDE, which said that > debian would like to help kde get there license issues resolved so kde could > be put into debian. Perhaps, that was not the case, and debian just wanted > to kick kde because you guys don't like it and the license issue was just a > reason for the kicking. > If I was wrong, I would have expected to see some news on the homepage > saying "Yeah, KDEs is completely GPLed and will be included in debian", or > at least something like that. After all the reading I did where debian was > saying that they would love to have kde but its not free. Well its FREE know > and I still don't see any of the people that where complaining about the > license saying something about it. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: QT on alpha potato does not compile
On Thu, Sep 07, 2000 at 06:16:12PM +0200, Ullrich Martini wrote: > I am trying to compile qt 2.2 on a alpha with potato, g++ 2.95.2-13 > using rkrustys patches from the > intel qt 2.2 diffs. I get lots of internal compiler errors on the files > generated by moc (moc_*.cpp), and > uic segfaults when compiling tools/designer/designer/listboxeditor.ui > > It looks like a alpha-gcc problem. The internal compiler errors go away > if the files > are compiled without optimization. I will file a bug against gcc because > of that. I had a similar problem on my alpha but chose to deal with it later. :) > The uic problem occurred when building the designer. I think the Qt > designer should go into > a separate package anyway. > it will since I want to turn on the KDE extensions which means that qt needs to be built first, then kde, then designer > The kde people had similiar bugs against kde2 betas in their bugtracking > system, but they closed them because they had a modified version of qt > which appearently fixed the problems. It looks like those patches didn't > find their way back to the trolls. > Anyway, did someone succeed in building qt-2.2 on a alpha/potato? I'll see if I can find more infoz on it. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: QT on alpha potato does not compile
On Fri, Sep 08, 2000 at 03:34:07AM -0400, Christopher C. Chimelis wrote: > > > It seems that trying to compile designer without having qt2.2 already > installed causes uic not to be able to find libqutil (since it hasn't been > installed yet and isn't preloaded). Designer really should be a different > source package anyway, IMO, which I'm going to recommend, especially since > it requires qt2.2 to be installed before compiling (a build dependency on > itself if it remains lumped in with the qt2.2 source package). > > I'm cc'ing the maintainer in hopes that we can resolve this without filing > a bug at this time. > Yup...I hosed the rules script and had a $(QTDIR)/libs instead of a $(QTDIR)/lib anyways, I'm migrating designer out into a completely seperate package so that we can turn on some of the other features (like kde2 widget support) which breaks the build order...I've fixed thee above problem on my end and once a clean build (from scratch) passes my eyes and I have a few tests done I'll upload and we'll see where we go from there. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Debian and KDE
> I would be happy to take over korganizer again for starters (from the status > information of the package on the tdyc site I believe that no-one else has > more interest in it than me). > > Ivan, if you're managing the KDE Debianizing stuff then perhaps you could > assign 2 or 3 other significant KDE packages to me, or a dozen of the tiny > things that don't require much work and aren't as important. > > Korganizer is significant IMHO because loss of data can cost users money and > there is more demand for fast action on bugs. Games aren't as important > because people don't care so much if their high-scores get temporarily > misplaced. ;) If you want to take over kdepim be my guest (since that's where korg is now). Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Bug#71107: [wmono@debian.org: Re: RFC: removal of libqt1g from woody]
> > I would also recommend removing explorer as it depends on a non-existant > > package (qt1g and not libqt1g) and therefore isn't installable. > > done. > > I cannot remove explorer unless the maintainer asks. besides, it should be > recompilable with qt2.2. > ok...the source we (Debian) have for explorer does not compile against qt2. The web site it refers to (and ftp site) don't work...it also seems that upstream has changed the name of the package...and that site is also non functional. All documentation I have seen on the net says it is coded for qt1 only and that documentation is 3 years old. As it is now the current package does not work, cannot be installed due to dependencies, and it's not part of main. The last few uploads have been done as NMU's... I understand not removing a package that works without the maintainers approval, but a package that is non-functional and un-installable? (not trying to beat you up..just trying to understand...if this is policy then I need to bring this scenerio up to debian-policy...) Anyways, I will continue to look online for this and hope either to get it to work or for the Maintainer to pipe up. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD pgp1XOt9jIug5.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Bug#71107: [wmono@debian.org: Re: RFC: removal of libqt1g from woody]
> > The maintainer may be unaware of our conversation, (god knows why) > > and may be working on an upload as we speak. IMO, its the same > > philosophy as doing a NMU. > > Oh, yeah. > > http://bugs.debian.org/68274 > > It's orphaned. And has been for about 7 months. The "maintainer" > should be debian-qa, but it has not been reset to that. ...that would explain it. :) -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE is not working!
yea..grab the .deb's out of incoming...or change your /usr/bin/startkde script iout with the one I'm attaching. Ivan On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 01:33:14PM -0700, Michael Meskes wrote: > I just updated my old 1.1.2 installation from Ivan's site to the new 2.0 > packages from woody. And nothing's going! KDM works but after login I get > that splash screen telling me it's trying to setup KDE and even telleing me > "KDE is up and running". Then it disappears and the screen remains grey. I > can move the mouse but do not get a menu or something like that. Of course I > do not get a panel or a kvt or anything I could work with. > > Anyone's out there with an idea what's going on? > > Michael > > P.S.: I did copy my .kde and .kderc aside before starting kde2. > -- > Michael Meskes > Michael@Fam-Meskes.De > Go SF 49ers! Go Rhein Fire! > Use Debian GNU/Linux! Use PostgreSQL! > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---end quoted text--- -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD #!/bin/sh # # DEFAULT KDE STARTUP SCRIPT ( KDE-2.0 ) # export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/qt2 export KDEDIRS=/usr export KDEDIR=/usr # Boot sequence: # # kdeinit is used to fork off processes which improves memory usage # and startup time. # # * kdeinit starts the dcopserver and klauncher first. # * then kdesktop is launched, it is started very early in the startup # process to give the user visual feedback as soon as possible. # Since it needs a working ksycoca database it waits for a # "sycoca database changed" signal from kded before it becomes functional. # * Then kded is started. kded is responsible for keeping the sycoca # database up to date. When an up to date database is present it sends # a "sycoca database changed" signal. # # * The rest of the start-up sequence is less critical. # # kdeinit starts dcopserver, klauncher, kdesktop, kicker, kded and # kwrited # Prevent an ever growing .ICEauthority file, since that will kill application # startup performance. rm -f $HOME/.ICEauthority # hack, workaraound, evil rm -f $HOME/.DCOPserver # Set a left cursor instead of the standard X11 "X" cursor, since I've heard # from some users that they're confused and don't know what to do. This is # especially necessary on slow machines, where starting KDE takes one or two # minutes until anything appears on the screen. # # Set the background to plain grey. # The standard X background is nasty, causing moire effects and exploding # people's heads. We use colours from the standard KDE palette for those with # palettised displays. xsetroot -cursor_name left_ptr -solid '#C0C0C0' # The user's personal KDE directory is usually $HOME/.kde, but this setting # may be overridden by setting KDEHOME. kdehome=$HOME/.kde test -n "$KDEHOME" && kdehome=$KDEHOME # Activate the kde font directories. # # There are 4 directories that may be used for supplying fonts for KDE. # # There are two system directories. These belong to the administrator. # There are two user directories, where the user may add her own fonts. # # The 'override' versions are for fonts that should come first in the list, # i.e. if you have a font in your 'override' directory, it will be used in # preference to any other. # # The preference order looks like this: # user override, system override, X, user, system # # Where X is the original font database that was set up before this script # runs. usr_odir=$kdehome/share/fonts/override sys_odir=$KDEDIR/share/fonts/override usr_fdir=$kdehome/share/fonts sys_fdir=$KDEDIR/share/fonts # We run mkfontdir on the user's font dirs (if we have permission) to pick # up any new fonts they may have installed. If mkfontdir fails, we still # add the user's dirs to the font path, as they might simply have been made # read-only by the administrator, for whatever reason. test -d $usr_odir && (mkfontdir $usr_odir ; xset +fp $usr_odir) test -d $sys_odir && xset +fp $sys_odir test -d $usr_fdir && (mkfontdir $usr_fdir ; xset fp+ $usr_fdir) test -d $sys_fdir && xset fp+ $sys_fdir # Ask X11 to rebuild its font list. xset fp rehash # Link "tmp" resource to directory in /tmp # Creates a directory /tmp/kde-$USER and links $KDEHOME/tmp-$HOSTNAME to it. lnusertemp tmp # Link "socket" resource to directory in /tmp # Creates a directory /tmp/ksocket-$USER and links $KDEHOME/socket-$HOSTNAME to it. lnusertemp socket # the splashscreen and progress indicator ksplash # We set LD_BIND_NOW to increase the efficiency of kdeinit. # kdeinit unsets this variable
Re: KDE is not working!
> ># Link "socket" resource to directory in /tmp > ># Creates a directory /tmp/ksocket-$USER and links > >$KDEHOME/socket-$HOSTNAME to it. > > I hope that last line is merged with the one before it in the uploaded > version ... it is -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...
uhh, FYI...the same person who did the package on kde.tdyc.com is the same and only person doing the packaging for Debian. The fact that I finally had time to work on the *MANY* requests to break down the packages and the fact that KDE *IS* beta shouldn't cause anyone to start pointing fingers at anyone else. It's kinda funny that I have not seen any bug reports (on the kde.tdyc.com mailing lists nor on the Debian BTS) about your problems. The current set of .deb's work fine for me on 3 different systems and I have not heard any other problems. (so far) There were problems with earlier builds due to alot of rework on the KDE side (mainly dealing with kdebase) but those issues have been fixed. A rant because your up until now functional beta packages decided to start croaking will solve nothing except cause those that work hard to bring you those packages to get fed up alot quicker and want to just drop it. Ivan aka [EMAIL PROTECTED] aka the KDE.tdyc.com guy aka the guy who uploaded the packages your griping about On Mon, Sep 11, 2000 at 10:47:22AM -0700, erik wrote: > Hi, > > I just can't keep my mouth shut about this any longer and the > unnecassary divisions (read demolitions) of KDE packages are the last > straw: I've been tracking the development of KDE2 for months and running > it quite successfully using "unofficial" debs (cheers to the folks at > kde.tdyc for bucking authority!) ... it was fine and coming along very > nicely. Was. And all it took was a week or so in the hands of a > ridiculously complicated and politically petty beuracracy like this and > being subjected to an absurdly complex re-packaging scheme to completely > destroy a perfectly useful desktop. First kdm goes, next update strange > browser crashes commence, next update the whole desktop is TOTALLY USELESS > and no longer even works for ANYTHING! On top of which it is now slated > for an unknown eternity in unstable ... well, now that its broken I guess > that's where it belongs. > > Nice job. > > I think this is a pretty blatant example of the obvious failings of an > aging and inflexible beuracratic empire that cares more for its protocols > and levels of "authority" (these things are oh so important, "not trivial > matters" at all ...) than making a good distribution anymore. Debian has > become an elitist club and it angers me because it is potentially the > finest OS available - but I am losing faith in that potential ever being > met. And that is very sad. > > I realize that this does not apply to many Debian developers - but if the > general attitude and atmosphere does not change here Debian will drift > into obscurity and forfiet the contributions that many talented people > would gladly have donated to the cause. The general disdain of "newbies" > and atmosphere of thinly veiled contempt (RTFM! ... uh, right; what > manual?) combined with an inflexible hierarchical beuracracy are dragging > this project into the mud right when it should be taking off with the rest > of the linux world. But no, Debian is spending its time arguing about > minutia and complaining about how there is too much to be done while > keeping "outsiders" waiting for months to even recieve acknowledgement of > reciept of application to voluteer (Oh, Yes, You too can help with > the Debian Project - just jump through these thirty complicated hoops and > apply to be a "developer" and wait around for a year or so and then if we > think you're cool ... garbage, why bother?). > > I'm sorry, being a "Debian developer" does not make one inherently > superior to other developers or persons that just use software, nor > does it make one's opinions about Debian development more valid - the end > user is the one that knows the most about what a piece of software needs > to be able to do. And without and end user your software is not superior, > it is just useless bits taking up storage. > > Arrogance and conceit are the signs of decay. And they certainly _not_ > conducive to enthusiastic community participation and the resulting high > quality software, which was the whole point of the free software movement > and the creation of the Debian Project - or was it? > > > Think about it. > > And try not to prove my point with condescending flames - its not > attractive. > > > -- > Erik Winn > -- >Never underestimate. Period. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---end quoted text--- -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...
> > > You _do_ realize that the same guy who packaged it for kde.tdyc _is_ the > > > same guy who is packaging it for Debian proper? > > > > Yep, I do -and it worked great before he had to repackage it. You could > > have simply copied them from tdyc and had done with it. had??? I didn't have to anything except conform to Debian policy which I was doing prior to uploading in preperation for the day in which I could (or someone coudl) upload it... In fact The Debian ftp folks were reluctant to install the packages due to lintian errors but did so and noted to me that I better get them fixed eventually... The difference between the kde.tdyc.com packages and the ones I uploaded to Debian are minimal. Instead of all the games coming in as one package, I broke them down. kdebase stayed the same. kdelibs stayed the same except I am now building 2 seperate packages..one with ssl support and one without. The kde.tdyc.com packages did not have ssl support for hte longest time. kdemuiltimedia (which hasn't been installed yet due to a screw up on my part) and koffice I broke down as well. I will continue to break the packages down as time permits. (oh yea..kdepim as well) Either way, if kde failes to work for you, then file a frikken bug report. If it does, be happy. Evenutally it will break again prior to woody's release I can guarentee it. You won't see it's stability until KDE 2 is officially released...I won't guarentee it nor would a KDE developer. There is still active development of it..things are getting tweaked and I don't always catch changes (as with a recent problem with KDE which caused it not to start up properly). If you don't like unstability then don't use an unstable version of Debian (or any distribution for that matter). If you want a stable KDE, use 1.1.2. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: KDE2 - nice demolition job ...
> Ivan, I want to apologize to you personally - I fully realize that you > are doing the work on KDE and ( as I mentioned before) I think you are > doing a great job. I have been running KDE from the other site and believe > me this was not targeted at you - if anything quite the opposite. The > point was that overbearing regulations had prevented a smooth > (and easy) integration of KDE. FYI and to anyone else reading. The direction I have gone with the packaging of KDE for Debian has not changed since day 1. I have focused on conforming to Debian policy (which I have mostly done already) and making the user base happy (breaking down of the packages) which is what I am focusing on now. I have had over the period of time that I hosted these packages on kde.tdyc.com had a crapload of broken packages. The ol' "it work's here" factor seems to work just as well today as it did back then. Until upstream settles down a bit and the source of problems focus's more on how I put them together we will still see bugs like the ones you see. You should see the list of porting issues I'm dealing with...up until now the KDE2 stuff hasn't been looked at beyond i386 and powerpc (for woody) and it shows. :) So I'm doing alot of work with that. Not once has any other Debian developer told me what to do (at least not since Branden told me to fix kdm from breaking xdm like almost 2 years ago). The extent that any other person has done have been requests...and I treat them as I do requests I get from folks like yourself. > > It's kinda funny that I have not seen any bug reports (on the kde.tdyc.com > > mailing lists nor on the Debian BTS) about your problems. The current > > Actually, the broken update happened about 20 minutes before said rant - > the other bugs I chalked up to beta. xerrors is about 50K and I have not > really figured out what is relevant yet - although I suspect the new > non-ssl linking scheme ... This is a possiblity...I haven't tested this whole thing alot. But, since your using woody, you are a beta tester and thus are my guinnee pig! muhaha > BTW, the rant has been a long time coming - this just keyed it. > > Purpose of Rant: Stir up the coals ... Well, I thank you for the high blood pressure and the doctors visit. :) -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: What is wrong with kde2.1 and unstable ?
On Sat, Jan 06, 2001 at 03:46:54PM +0100, Michael Meding wrote: > Hi all, > > as of three days ago, every attempt to do a dist-upgrade tries to uninstall > almost every kde package. What is wrong there. > > Maybe the package maintainer knows ? no clue...I don't use apt to upgrade. :) Your not alone tho, there is a existing bug report on this (#81365)...so any help you can give me to track down what's going on would be appreciated. On all the boxes I have access to I use dselect to manage my package list so I do know that dselect can handle whatever is going on. Ivan -- -------- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: What is wrong with kde2.1 and unstable ?
> > no clue...I don't use apt to upgrade. :) Your not alone tho, there is a > > existing bug report on this (#81365)...so any help you can give me to track > > I do use apt through dselect and did an upgrade un Thursday and on Friday. > It worked nicely expect that task-koffice was removed by apt. Don't know why > but since I usually don't use task I didn't care. because there are only 2 task-kde* packages that *should* exist now. The others have yet to be removed from the archive. (Bug#79708) Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
RE: [Fwd: False Representation at Google.com]
I’m sure your not the only Ava Driscoll in the world. Why don’t you track the person down who’s sending out the spam and ask him/her to cease desist using his/her name since he/she is the one sending the spam and not Debian. You have heard of Spam? -Original Message- From: Ava Driscoll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 3:47 PM To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Subject: [Fwd: False Representation at Google.com] Original Message Subject: False Representation at Google.com Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 14:20:27 -0700 From: Ava Driscoll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am experiencing bad results when I use Google: http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&client=REAL-tb&q=Ava+Driscoll I do not appreciate the following showing up: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200306/msg01662.html Please cease and desist using my name. Thank you. Sincerely, Ava Driscoll
dm management of wm listings (kdm/gdm/etc..)
Hi, Branden and I discussed the issue of dm's that have wm lists to choose from several months ago. At that time he thought that maybe the update-menu type of approach would be a good way to solve this. I'd like to restate what my understanding of the problem and current suggested solution and see what people think. (and then find out where we go next from here) Problem: Desktop Managers like kdm and gdm support Window Manager listings so that users can choose what they want to login in using. There currently is no common way for wm's to register themselves with each/any/all dm's that may be installed on the system. Solution?: create a program (update-dm?) that would pull the current list of window/session-managers installed on the system and build the appropriate config files for whichever dm's are currently installed. Use the update-menu's approach to things where each dm would supply a method file from which the update-dm program would know how to properly build it's config file. I think that this method would probably reduce the amount of possible duplication as long as the update-dm script pulled it's wm listing from /var/lib/dpkg/alternatives/x-window-manager for example. That way the only change any wm would have to do is add a call to update-dm in it's postinst. All dm's that would use this feature would then create a custom file and install it into /etc/X11/dm (for example) and run update-dm in it's postinst as well. comments? Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: dm management of wm listings (kdm/gdm/etc..)
> Ivan> Solution?: create a program (update-dm?) that would pull > Ivan> the current list of window/session-managers installed on the > Ivan> system and build the appropriate config files for whichever > > You should probably consider whether this program ought to simply be > update-menu. Is there any reason not to have a menu of window > managers? You could then have the method for the DM only pull window > managers. Note this is a serious question; there may well be many > good reasons this is a bad idea. hmmm...well menu already has the "wm" bit and if wm's create a menu entry using this that would allow for singling them out. menu also has the ability to do just about anything theoretically and would require no other programs except for customized menu-methods for each dm provided by the dm's. I don't see a reason why it can't be used. It's a *MUCH* cleaner approach than using the alternatives list and allows for proper names (ie.. Gnome vs. gnome-session). /me runs off to try it with kdm... Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 04:41:59PM -0600, Colin Watson wrote: > On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 02:07:57PM -0500, Ed Tomlinson wrote: > > I use debain. As a debian user I am quite distressed at how this > > bug is being treated. I have watched the bug reports on this issue > > and have created one (See 127215). > > If a bug I filed had been treated that way, I would have reopened it > immediately. Closing a bug out of hand just because you don't agree with > where it has been filed is completely wrong. > > See #126829 for my arguments about this. first off the package "kde" is a meta package that has no binaries so there is absolutely no problem with that package. The bug report was closed with a comment of "file it against the proper packages please". What is so wrong about this? Absolutely nothing. I don't have the time to sit there and file bug reports on behalf of a user. Especially since the problem is known and is being dealt with. If I felt it was not being delt with I would spend the time to do this on my own however please tell me where I stated I would do the work for our users? Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng
On Fri, Jan 04, 2002 at 10:22:56AM +1100, Sam Couter wrote: > Ivan E. Moore II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > please tell me where I stated I would do the work for our users? > > When you signed up as a Debian Developer. no. I did not. No where did I state I would submit bug reports for our users, provide all the necessary information on behalf of users, or anything of the sort. I am a Debian Developer, not a secretary. Ivan -- -------- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 03:37:24PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > "Ivan E. Moore II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > no. I did not. No where did I state I would submit bug reports for > > our users, provide all the necessary information on behalf of users, > > or anything of the sort. I am a Debian Developer, not a secretary. > > It is the responsibility of every Debian maintainer to forward bugs > upstream. That is, indeed, one of the most important tasks a Debian > maintainer can perform. > > Having forwarded a bug, you should then leave it open until a fix is > integrated into the package and uploaded. your right..but we are not talking about that. We are talking about a bug report filed against a meta package where the user wanted me to submit bugs for each of the 40+ packages he listed. I am not a secretary. If the user wants all those bugs filed he can do it himself. Ivan -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 03:40:26PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > "Ivan E. Moore II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > first off the package "kde" is a meta package that has no binaries so > > there is absolutely no problem with that package. The bug report was closed > > with a comment of "file it against the proper packages please". What is > > so wrong about this? Absolutely nothing. > > It is the wrong procedure. The correct procedure is to refile the bug > against the correct package, which takes no more time than closing it. dude. get a fucking clue. What is the right fucking package when the user says "please report this bug to the maintainers of the following 40+ packages"? -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Re: Bug#127252: -unstable compiled against the wrong libpng
On Thu, Jan 03, 2002 at 06:09:31PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: > On Thu, 3 Jan 2002, Ivan E. Moore II wrote: > > > your right..but we are not talking about that. We are talking about a > > bug report filed against a meta package where the user wanted me to submit > > bugs for each of the 40+ packages he listed. > > Anthony Towns was working on a clone command last weekend for the bts. so your last email just falls flat as it wouldn't work. -- Ivan E. Moore II [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://snowcrash.tdyc.com GPG KeyID=90BCE0DD GPG Fingerprint=F2FC 69FD 0DA0 4FB8 225E 27B6 7645 8141 90BC E0DD
Intent to package rrlogind and rrdhcpd
rrlogind and rrdhcpd are part (well all) of the RoadRunner tools for Linux. This allows a user of Time Warner's cable modem service to use Linux to connect. The rrlogind handles the authentication and the rrdhcpd handles the obtaining of the ip address. Ivan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ivan E. Moore II Rev. Krusty http://www.tdyc.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Imagination is more important than knowledge - Albert Einstien -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- GPG KeyID=0E1A75E3 GPG Fingerprint=3291 F65F 01C9 A4EC DD46 C6AB FBBC D7FF 0E1A 75E3 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 12:34:57PM -0800, Joey Hess wrote: > Would anyone object if kernel 2.2 were packaged up at least as a > kernel-source package for slink? 2.0.3x would remain slink's default kernel, > would be used on the boot disks, etc, but this would let people get ahold of > kernel 2.2 easily on a debian cdrom, and it would let us say that debian > supports 2.2. (I was at a LUG meeting the other day, and I was asked about > this very thing a couple of times; people obviously care about it.) I think it should be as both source and image. (2.2.0-final at least) It shouldn't be the default..but it should be there. Maybe with a note in the description field that it's still not a "official-stable" release but Linus does say's unless there is a real stupid mistake on his part than nothing will be changed for the 2.2.0 release which will probably come out Monday. (unless there is a stupid mistake). I say put it in! It's been in it's version of "frozen" for a while now. > > Brian, would this be too grave a violation of your "no new code" rule? probably... :( Ivan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ivan E. Moore II Rev. Krusty http://www.tdyc.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Imagination is more important than knowledge - Albert Einstien -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- GPG KeyID=0E1A75E3 GPG Fingerprint=3291 F65F 01C9 A4EC DD46 C6AB FBBC D7FF 0E1A 75E3 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink
On Thu, Jan 21, 1999 at 08:24:37PM -0500, Allan M. Wind wrote: > Most ppl. need a printer and /dev/lp changed radically betewen 2.0 and > 2.2. diald/ppp in slink does not work with 2.2.0-pre7 (on my box, at > least). I am sure that there are other things as well. ---end quoted text--- I think it's your system..(or very few..) I have had no problems on 6 systems I run (ranging from personal home workstation to laptop to work server's running anywhere from plain samba to web servers to print servers. But you are right that there may be issues we haven't seen. That's why it should be an *added* bonus and not the main image. IMHO Ivan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ivan E. Moore II Rev. Krusty http://www.tdyc.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Imagination is more important than knowledge - Albert Einstien -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- GPG KeyID=0E1A75E3 GPG Fingerprint=3291 F65F 01C9 A4EC DD46 C6AB FBBC D7FF 0E1A 75E3 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink
Quoting Bob Nielsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I also was unable to get ppp or diald to work with a later 2.1.x kernel in > a hamm system. > > Documentation/Changes says the required version of ppp is 2.3.5 and hamm, > slink and potato all have this version. > > Bob I have just performed 3 different setups. HAMM, SLINK, and a hacked up Potato all with the 2.2.0-final (pre-9) kernel. This was the ONLY change I made to the system. All used ppp just fine including the ability for dial on demand and the interworking relationship with ipfwadm and ipmasq allowing me to forward connections from my internal ethernet network through my ppp interface and out into the internet. Ivan =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ivan E. Moore II Rev. Krusty http://www.tdyc.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Imagination is more important than knowledge - Albert Einstien -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- GPG KeyID=0E1A75E3 GPG Fingerprint=3291 F65F 01C9 A4EC DD46 C6AB FBBC D7FF 0E1A 75E3 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= - This mail sent through IMP: http://web.horde.org/imp/
Re: getting kernel 2.2 into slink
On Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 03:29:00PM +0100, Marco d'Itri wrote: > Kernels are big. Even if you don't pay for download time, many people > do. ---end quoted text--- That's what dselect is for...you only download that which you are going to install. By adding the 2.2.0 kernel and or source as an extra package(s), you don't HAVE to download it. It would be there as an additional package that one could download if one chose to. Ivan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ivan E. Moore II Rev. Krusty http://www.tdyc.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Imagination is more important than knowledge - Albert Einstien -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- GPG KeyID=0E1A75E3 GPG Fingerprint=3291 F65F 01C9 A4EC DD46 C6AB FBBC D7FF 0E1A 75E3 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
/usr/lib/libgnomeui.so.0: undefined symbol: argp_program_version
/usr/lib/libgnomeui.so.0: undefined symbol: argp_program_version This happens with some of the GNOME based packages I've installed from both slink and potatoe lately... Any ideas what I'm missing or what I did??? thanks Ivan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ivan E. Moore II Rev. Krusty http://www.tdyc.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Imagination is more important than knowledge - Albert Einstien -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- GPG KeyID=0E1A75E3 GPG Fingerprint=3291 F65F 01C9 A4EC DD46 C6AB FBBC D7FF 0E1A 75E3 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: /usr/lib/libgnomeui.so.0: undefined symbol: argp_program_version
On Sat, Jan 30, 1999 at 12:07:29AM -0800, Jim Pick wrote: > > /usr/lib/libgnomeui.so.0: undefined symbol: argp_program_version > > You probably have mixed some of the 0.99.x packages and the 0.30 packages. ---end quoted text--- yup..after digging and playing I found out that some of the programs I am using want 0.30 stuff and some want 0.99 stuff...and one cancels out the other basically..it's whacky.. Ivan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ivan E. Moore II Rev. Krusty http://www.tdyc.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Imagination is more important than knowledge - Albert Einstien -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- GPG KeyID=0E1A75E3 GPG Fingerprint=3291 F65F 01C9 A4EC DD46 C6AB FBBC D7FF 0E1A 75E3 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: Netscape Bus Errors
Yea...I started a thread about this a few weeks ago...it seems to be an issue and someone posted a theory (or an explanation..don't remember anymore) of what was actually happeneing and a hack/fix for it I think.. Ivan On Thu, May 06, 1999 at 10:14:25AM -0500, Mark Mealman wrote: > Anyone else getting hit with these? > > Was using netscape 4.08 when I started having these problems(after a > massive apt-get upgrade, naturally), so I upgraded to 4.51 and I still > seem to be getting a lot of bus errors. > > The errors only happen now and again when I close a netscape window. > > Nothing critical, just a pain. > > Is this an issue in the new C libs? > > > Mark - wanting mozilla > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---end quoted text--- -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ivan E. Moore II Rev. Krusty http://www.tdyc.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- GPG KeyID=0E1A75E3 GPG Fingerprint=3291 F65F 01C9 A4EC DD46 C6AB FBBC D7FF 0E1A 75E3 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: Current problems with libc6_2.1.1-2
Quoting Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Is my machine a ticking time bomb or something? Will it not boot up next > time I have to reboot? > > Other than putting the acct package on hold, I've been tracking potato > pretty closely. I'm not sure about glibc requiring 2.2.x but I have noticed (at least with one particular machine) that gnome/enlightenment (together) doesn't like 2.0.x kernels... fresh install (3 times in a row) using the stock kernel for some reason if you (well, me) use gnome-session to start up enlightenment, enlightenment hangs during startup. Immediatly upgrade to 2.2.5 and blamo...it works. this is just strange... Ivan =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ivan E. Moore II Rev. Krusty http://snowcrash.tdyc.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- GPG KeyID=0E1A75E3 GPG Fingerprint=3291 F65F 01C9 A4EC DD46 C6AB FBBC D7FF 0E1A 75E3 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
KDE debian stuff
Just to let people know who are interested...I've been given CVS access to the kde source so that I can update and keep up to date the kde packages. Stephen has plans for the future (ie, kde 2.0.x and beyond) and just doesn't have time to keep the stuff updated at this time and I volunteered to do it. So if you have beefs with how kde is currently being done from a debian package standpoint and would like to see them done differently please let me know. Here is a current list of things that people have already stated needed to be changed or was a "god it would be nice" kdm not requiring xdm. (I migrated kdm out of kdebase so it is a seperate package..this should take care of this for the time being) migrate kde out of /usr/X11R6/bin and into /usr/bin (requested by someone) fixing up the scripts (still working on this...have current issues with the i18n stuff, but everything else works) Ivan =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ivan E. Moore II Rev. Krusty http://snowcrash.tdyc.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- GPG KeyID=0E1A75E3 GPG Fingerprint=3291 F65F 01C9 A4EC DD46 C6AB FBBC D7FF 0E1A 75E3 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: KDE debian stuff
Quoting Hartmut Koptein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > /etc/init.d/kdm shouldn't use /etc/X11/config, its obsolete. > yea..I forgot to mention that one as well...currently how I have it is that kdm (as a seperate package) requires xdm and uses a /etc/X11/kdm dir with a config in there instead so that it's happy. The ultimate goal (not just of my but of Stephen's as well) is to make kdm a seperate item and no longer require xdm. But in the meantime I have it jimmied so that it doesn't use /etc/X11/config :) Ivan =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ivan E. Moore II Rev. Krusty http://snowcrash.tdyc.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- GPG KeyID=0E1A75E3 GPG Fingerprint=3291 F65F 01C9 A4EC DD46 C6AB FBBC D7FF 0E1A 75E3 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: KDE debian stuff
Quoting John Lapeyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Is the debugging info necessary ? I wonder if it slows things down. probably not. From what I gather, alot of how the debian packages are created are for the benefit of the developers. This would at least explain debugging info...I will dig through the code a bit and see how I can clean it up even more. Ivan =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ivan E. Moore II Rev. Krusty http://snowcrash.tdyc.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- GPG KeyID=0E1A75E3 GPG Fingerprint=3291 F65F 01C9 A4EC DD46 C6AB FBBC D7FF 0E1A 75E3 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: KDE debian stuff
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: > Look into kde/kdm's bug list. It does some things very badly here (have > heard > the X maint gripe more than once on this). > yea..I need to do that.. I know one of the big beefs was that kdebase required xdm since kdm was apart of kdebase...I took part of this issue out by taking kdm out of kdebase and making it it's own package. There is still alot to be done to the kdm package to fix the problems that exist with it. Ivan =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ivan E. Moore II Rev. Krusty http://snowcrash.tdyc.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- GPG KeyID=0E1A75E3 GPG Fingerprint=3291 F65F 01C9 A4EC DD46 C6AB FBBC D7FF 0E1A 75E3 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: KDE debian stuff
Quoting Sergey V Kovalyov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > I wonder, is it only me and a screwed potato on my test computer or other > people as well have problems with kde 1.1.1 ? > The symptoms are at least: > - can't run kappfinder: dies with $(install_root)/usr/share/applink file > not found > - Mime types don't work: clicking on almost any file suggests to "Open > With" > - khelp freezes when trying to view "man:something" it's not you. :) > So, is it specific to me, to potato, or actually a problem with packages ? > a problem with the packages. There was little (if at all) work put into the packaging of 1.1.1. (Stephen was busy with KDE itself). I'm still finding things like this and am trying to fix this stuff as I go along. I will figure out where these issues are coming from and get them fixed. > Another thing: > I believe, for potato kdm should be compiled with PAM support (or at least > a separate packages kdm-pam, kcheckpass-pam etc. should be provided). yea...I was pondering this as well when I saw that pam support was being turned off... Ivan =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ivan E. Moore II Rev. Krusty http://snowcrash.tdyc.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- GPG KeyID=0E1A75E3 GPG Fingerprint=3291 F65F 01C9 A4EC DD46 C6AB FBBC D7FF 0E1A 75E3 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: LinuxExpo report, Day 1
Quoting John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi, > > First, I've got photos of the day at LinuxExpo. They're all either > 1280x960 or 1024x768 JPEGs; by the time you read this or shortly > thereafter, they'll be up on my website at: > > http://www.debian.org/~jgoerzen/lexpo-photos/ > Oh my gawd..that pic of me turned out even worse that I expected it to!!! hahaha =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ivan E. Moore II Rev. Krusty http://snowcrash.tdyc.com[EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- GPG KeyID=0E1A75E3 GPG Fingerprint=3291 F65F 01C9 A4EC DD46 C6AB FBBC D7FF 0E1A 75E3 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: Let's Debian blow... gracefully! [was Re: Intent to package GNU Philosophy web pages]
On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 05:37:15PM -0400, Fabien Ninoles wrote: > The reason for a seperate directory is for ease of mirroring and CD > building. It gives us also an easy way to check if a package can be > on data. > > I will really like to see this one at least second. It's an old thread > that I saw reborn and kill too often. My english is not perfect, so it's > certainly need some correction but I think the idea is here. ---end quoted text--- I like this idea. -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ivan E. Moore II Rev. Krusty http://www.tdyc.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- GPG KeyID=0E1A75E3 GPG Fingerprint=3291 F65F 01C9 A4EC DD46 C6AB FBBC D7FF 0E1A 75E3 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: Could someone to package php4?
On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 01:04:01PM +0200, Piotr Roszatycki wrote: > PHP4 has already beta release. Could someone to package it? > > I have doubts about license - "The PHP License, version 2.01", > but I think it is "free license". > > Just as long as php3 doesn't get nuked out of the distro. Ivan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ivan E. Moore II Rev. Krusty http://www.tdyc.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Imagination is more important than knowledge - Albert Einstein -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- GPG KeyID=0E1A75E3 GPG Fingerprint=3291 F65F 01C9 A4EC DD46 C6AB FBBC D7FF 0E1A 75E3 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Re: Too many kernels in unstable
> I'm not objectionable to a 2.3.x, but I really don't think it's a good > idea. Hey...my Debian Ultra SPARC system *loves* the 2.3.x kernel a heck of a lot better than the 2.2.x strain. I think that for unstable a version (or 2 depending of needs) of each kernel tree would be nice...but for stable an unstable kernel probably wouldn't be best (unless it's needed for some specific reason)...mainly because by the time the stable version comes out of frozen it will be outdated. :) Ivan -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Ivan E. Moore II Rev. Krusty http://www.tdyc.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Imagination is more important than knowledge - Albert Einstein -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- GPG KeyID=0E1A75E3 GPG Fingerprint=3291 F65F 01C9 A4EC DD46 C6AB FBBC D7FF 0E1A 75E3 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
