Re: package not entering experimental after 12+ hours

[Jonas Smedegaard]

Quoting Sebastian Ramacher (2022-05-31 08:56:32)
> On 2022-05-31 08:46:20 +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Can someone help clue me in on why source package
> > haskell-hslua-module-text - uploaded 16 hours ago and according to
> > https://buildd.debian.org/status/package.php?p=haskell-hslua-module-text&suite=experimental
> > successfully built on all supported targets, however only in state
> > "Uploaded" on all of them, not "Installed" yet?
> > 
> > What is holding back the package?  Somethin I can do to help?
> 
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1012148
> 
> Cheers

Ah! Thanks :-)


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Re: use of Recommends by vlc to force users to use pipewire

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2022-05-30 14:30:38 +0200, Dylan Aïssi wrote:
> Le lun. 30 mai 2022 à 12:55, Jonas Smedegaard  a écrit :
> >  a) pipewire package enables pipewire service by default
> 
> Indeed, but pipewire service doesn't take control of audio over
> pulseaudio. Only pipewire-pulse does that.

This is incorrect. The pipewire-pulse package was not installed
at all (pipewire-pulse had been installed automatically in
October 2021 due to dependencies, but the change was reverted,
and the package got removed on my machine 3 days later).

I don't know whether this could cause the issue, but
pipewire-media-session was installed, because pipewire-bin
recommends it. There were already issues with it in the past:

https://tracker.debian.org/news/1271014/accepted-pipewire-0339-3-source-into-unstable/
which says:

   * Remove pipewire-media-session from Recommends.
   (Closes: #995116, #996994, #997859)

But pipewire-bin still has:

Recommends: dbus-user-session, pipewire-media-session | wireplumber, rtkit

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Re: use of Recommends by vlc to force users to use pipewire

[Andrey Rahmatullin]

On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 10:55:55AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > >  a) pipewire package enables pipewire service by default
> > 
> > Indeed, but pipewire service doesn't take control of audio over
> > pulseaudio. Only pipewire-pulse does that.
> 
> This is incorrect. The pipewire-pulse package was not installed
> at all (pipewire-pulse had been installed automatically in
> October 2021 due to dependencies, but the change was reverted,
> and the package got removed on my machine 3 days later).
> 
> I don't know whether this could cause the issue, but
> pipewire-media-session was installed, because pipewire-bin
> recommends it. There were already issues with it in the past:
What issues?

> https://tracker.debian.org/news/1271014/accepted-pipewire-0339-3-source-into-unstable/
> which says:
> 
>* Remove pipewire-media-session from Recommends.
>(Closes: #995116, #996994, #997859)
The context of this was "replace pipewire-media-session with wireplumber"
and it was rolled back in the next upload as you can see in d/changelog.


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Re: use of Recommends by vlc to force users to use pipewire

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2022-05-31 14:04:18 +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 10:55:55AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > >  a) pipewire package enables pipewire service by default
> > > 
> > > Indeed, but pipewire service doesn't take control of audio over
> > > pulseaudio. Only pipewire-pulse does that.
> > 
> > This is incorrect. The pipewire-pulse package was not installed
> > at all (pipewire-pulse had been installed automatically in
> > October 2021 due to dependencies, but the change was reverted,
> > and the package got removed on my machine 3 days later).

Sorry. Actually it got removed because I downgraded the pipewire
packages back to the previous version (it's clearer with the
/var/log/apt/term.log* log files).

> > I don't know whether this could cause the issue, but
> > pipewire-media-session was installed, because pipewire-bin
> > recommends it. There were already issues with it in the past:
> What issues?

The ones mentioned below ("Closes: ...").

> > https://tracker.debian.org/news/1271014/accepted-pipewire-0339-3-source-into-unstable/
> > which says:
> > 
> >* Remove pipewire-media-session from Recommends.
> >(Closes: #995116, #996994, #997859)
> The context of this was "replace pipewire-media-session with wireplumber"

Indeed, this is what happened with pipewire 0.3.39-1, as I can see
in my dpkg logs and the changelog:

  * Change priority order between pipewire-media-session and wireplumber,
  WirePlumber is now the recommended session manager.

and this is what led to the pipewire-pulse installation.

> and it was rolled back in the next upload as you can see in d/changelog.

More precisely, pipewire-media-session was removed from Recommends
in pipewire 0.3.39-3. I upgraded to this version, and pipewire-pulse
was installed again. So, I downgraded again, so that pipewire-pulse
got removed again.

Then the rollback was done in pipewire 0.3.39-4:

  * Re-add pipewire-media-session as an alternative to Wireplumber,
  it is now back in the archive as a separate source package.

and pipewire-pulse was no longer installed again on my machine.

Anyway, when I upgraded the vlc package two weeks ago, this had the
effect that PulseAudio was no longer used as the sound server (for
both vlc and ogg123), though pipewire was already installed (due to
a Recommends from libpipewire-0.3-0, itself due to a Depends from
xdg-desktop-portal). The only new package was vlc-plugin-pipewire,
due to

  * debian/control: Recommend vlc-plugin-pipewire

pipewire-pulse was not installed.

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Re: use of Recommends by vlc to force users to use pipewire

[Andrey Rahmatullin]

On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 11:43:06AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > > > >  a) pipewire package enables pipewire service by default
> > > > 
> > > > Indeed, but pipewire service doesn't take control of audio over
> > > > pulseaudio. Only pipewire-pulse does that.
> > > 
> > > This is incorrect. The pipewire-pulse package was not installed
> > > at all (pipewire-pulse had been installed automatically in
> > > October 2021 due to dependencies, but the change was reverted,
> > > and the package got removed on my machine 3 days later).
> 
> Sorry. Actually it got removed because I downgraded the pipewire
> packages back to the previous version (it's clearer with the
> /var/log/apt/term.log* log files).
> 
> > > I don't know whether this could cause the issue, but
> > > pipewire-media-session was installed, because pipewire-bin
> > > recommends it. There were already issues with it in the past:
> > What issues?
> 
> The ones mentioned below ("Closes: ...").
They are about pipewire-media-session vs wireplumber and/or affect people
installing pipewire-pulse as far as I can see.

> > > https://tracker.debian.org/news/1271014/accepted-pipewire-0339-3-source-into-unstable/
> > > which says:
> > > 
> > >* Remove pipewire-media-session from Recommends.
> > >(Closes: #995116, #996994, #997859)
> > The context of this was "replace pipewire-media-session with wireplumber"
> 
> Indeed, this is what happened with pipewire 0.3.39-1, as I can see
> in my dpkg logs and the changelog:
> 
>   * Change priority order between pipewire-media-session and wireplumber,
>   WirePlumber is now the recommended session manager.
> 
> and this is what led to the pipewire-pulse installation.
So "pipewire-media-session was installed" is indeed irrelevant.

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Re: use of Recommends by vlc to force users to use pipewire

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2022-05-31 11:43:06 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> Anyway, when I upgraded the vlc package two weeks ago, this had the
> effect that PulseAudio was no longer used as the sound server (for
> both vlc and ogg123), though pipewire was already installed (due to
> a Recommends from libpipewire-0.3-0, itself due to a Depends from
> xdg-desktop-portal). The only new package was vlc-plugin-pipewire,
> due to
> 
>   * debian/control: Recommend vlc-plugin-pipewire
> 
> pipewire-pulse was not installed.

A clarification about this point: Concerning ogg123, it was actually
using the ALSA device (I had default_driver=alsa in /etc/libao.conf),
and before the vlc upgrade, this was automatically forwarding the
stream to PulseAudio (something like that, I don't know the internals).
It is only after the upgrade of the vlc package[*] that things got
really broken with ogg123 too.

[*] I also used VLC after the upgrade, and I suspect that this had
the effect to change something in the configuration, as neither vlc
nor ogg123 was using PulseAudio any longer, as seen in pavucontrol.

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Re: use of Recommends by vlc to force users to use pipewire

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2022-05-31 14:55:44 +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote:
> On Tue, May 31, 2022 at 11:43:06AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> > Indeed, this is what happened with pipewire 0.3.39-1, as I can see
> > in my dpkg logs and the changelog:
> > 
> >   * Change priority order between pipewire-media-session and wireplumber,
> >   WirePlumber is now the recommended session manager.
> > 
> > and this is what led to the pipewire-pulse installation.
> So "pipewire-media-session was installed" is indeed irrelevant.

No, because pipewire-pulse got removed a bit later. This was in
October 2021. Since then, pipewire-pulse was no longer installed.
But Dylan Aïssi said:

| Indeed, but pipewire service doesn't take control of audio over
| pulseaudio. Only pipewire-pulse does that.
| So, if you don't want to use pipewire for audio, then don't install
| pipewire-pulse and that's it.

So there's something contradictory. If the pipewire service alone
doesn't take control of audio over pulseaudio, then the only culprit
would be pipewire-media-session. Or what? A bug in pipewire, which
would actually take control of audio even without pipewire-pulse?

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How to install kdump in debian11?

[starcold14]

Hi，
How to install kdump in debian11? I was trying to install kdump in debian11, but I found there are too many articles with defferent kdump versions.But I did not know how to choose the right way to install kdump?Can anyone helps? I would be very appreciate for your help. 






 


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Re: How to install kdump in debian11?

[Paul Wise]

On Tue, 2022-05-31 at 18:15 +0800, starcold14 wrote:

> How to install kdump in debian11?

Looks like this will work:

   sudo apt install kdump-tools

   https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=kdump

In future, please send questions like this to Debian support:

   https://www.debian.org/support

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Re: How to install kdump in debian11?

[starcold14]

Dear pabs,OK. I will use support channel next time.
Thank you.






 


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On Tue, 2022-05-31 at 18:15 +0800, starcold14 wrote: How to install kdump in debian11?Looks like this will work:   sudo apt install kdump-tools   https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=kdumpIn future, please send questions like this to Debian support:   https://www.debian.org/support-- bye,pabshttps://wiki.debian.org/PaulWise

Bug#1012182: ITP: eluceo-ical -- PHP library to create iCal calendars and ICS files

[Joseph Nahmias]

Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Joseph Nahmias 
X-Debbugs-Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, j...@nahmias.net, 
pkg-php-p...@lists.alioth.debian.org, mar...@eluceo.de

* Package name: eluceo-ical
  Version : 0.16.1
  Upstream Author : Markus Poerschke 
* URL : https://ical.poerschke.nrw/
* License : MIT
  Programming Lang: PHP
  Description : PHP library to create iCal calendars and ICS files

This package offers a abstraction layer for creating iCalendars. The output
will follow RFC 5545 as best as possible.

The following components are supported at this time:
.
VCALENDAR
VEVENT
VALARM
VTIMEZONE

Dependency of KanBoard.
Will be maintained within PHP Team.

Re: use of Recommends by vlc to force users to use pipewire

[Joey Hess]

Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> So there's something contradictory. If the pipewire service alone
> doesn't take control of audio over pulseaudio, then the only culprit
> would be pipewire-media-session. Or what? A bug in pipewire, which
> would actually take control of audio even without pipewire-pulse?

I can confirm, I just upgraded (unstable) and vlc began using pipewire for
playback based on some error messages.

I did not have pipewire-pulse installed. Removing
pipewire-bin pipewire pipewire-media-session fixed it.

[558fb18b0660] main libvlc: Running vlc with the default interface. Use 
'cvlc' to use vlc without interface.
[558fb197bd10] pipewire audio output error: stream error: no node available

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