Re: Bug#729595: expect-lite: Please add expect-lite package to Squeeze & Wheezy

2013-11-15 Thread Andrei POPESCU
Control: reassign -1 wnpp
Control: retitle -1 ITP: expect-lite -- easy to use version of expect
Control: owner -1 Craig Miller 

On Jo, 14 nov 13, 12:39:04, Craig Miller wrote:
> Package: expect-lite
> Severity: normal
> 
> Dear Maintainer,
> 
> Please add expect-lite package to Squeeze & Wheezy
> 
> Expect-lite is build on expect and basic expect-lite scripts can be created by
> simply cutting and pasting text from a terminal window into a script, and
> adding '>' '<' characters.
> 
> This package is already part of the Ubuntu and Gentoo distros.
> 
> Additionally, Sergei Golovan, the maintainer of expect, has agreed to upload
> the package.
> 
> I (the author and maintainer of expect-lite) will continue to maintain the
> package.

Since you will be the Maintainer of the package I think you wanted to 
file an ITP (Intent to Package) and not an RFP (Request to package). 
Please provide also the other informations usually included in an ITP 
(see http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/#l2 )

Kind regards,
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Re: MIPS64EL rootfs available for use and test

2013-11-15 Thread Graham Whaley
On 14 November 2013 18:25, YunQiang Su  wrote:

> Anybody can help to test whether the out current webkit workable?
>
> Maybe by install epiphany-browser and use it?
>
> All of my board/laptops are working as build nodes.
>
>
We'll see if we can run it up on our 3A laptop today. We've not modified
the laptop from production installation yet, so it may take us a little bit
to get up to speed with the process.


> If it work, can you reply to
> https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=124370
> and
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=729572
> ?
>
> OK, will do.
I'll let you know how we get on. If somebody else is/was thinking of trying
it out then please still do :-)

 Graham


> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Graham Whaley 
> wrote:
> >
> > On 14 November 2013 00:46, David Daney 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 11/13/2013 04:32 PM, YunQiang Su wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 8:03 AM, David Daney <
> dda...@caviumnetworks.com>
> >>> wrote:
> 
>  On 11/11/2013 09:57 AM, YunQiang Su wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi, folks,
> >
> > In the recent days, I figure out the mips64el rootfs and test it on
> > Loongson 3A platform.
> > It works well in general, it's time to release it.
> >
> > It can be download from:
> >   http://mips64el.debian.net/debian/rootfs/
> >
> 
>  Nice!
> 
>  I tested it on our OCTEON boards.  Seems to be working.  I had to
> enable
>  CONFIG_DEVTMPFS and CONFIG_DEVTMPFS_MOUNT in my kernel and edit
>  /etc/inittab
>  to put gettys on my serial ports, and set the root password.  But
> after
>  that, it works seemingly without a hitch.
> >>>
> >>> Great news, while wait... does OCTEON support little endian?
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes.  The kernel.org kernel doesn't yet contain full little-endian
> >> support, but getting little-endian support merged is on our list of
> things
> >> to do.
> >>
> > Hi David,
> >  out of interest, do you know if there are any commercially (ideally
> easily
> > and cheaply ;-) available boards out there that can run Octeon little
> > endian? afaik things like the CN5020 based boards like the Erlite-3 and
> > CAM-0100 only do big, and afaik there is no (documented) way to jumper
> them
> > differently.
> >  My presumption is that the Cavium Octeon devboards from Cavium
> themselves
> > (available I believe, but not too cheap) can do both?
> >
> >  Graham
> >
> >>
> >> David Daney
> >>
> >>
> >>
> 
> 
> 
> > To install it, what you need to do is just unpack it to a partition
> > and configure kernel/bootloader/fstab by yourself.
> >
> > This is a more detailed instruction for Loongson 3A users:
> >   http://mips64el.debian.net/debian/rootfs/README
> >
> > Know issues:
> >   1. MIPS64r2 ISA is required,
> >while we have made a agree to downgrade the requirement to
> > mips3 in future.
> >   2. The permission is of /usr/bin/crontab is not correct, so you
> > need
> > to:
> >apt-get install cron --reinstall
> >   3. some files in /var/cache/man are not correct, you need to:
> > rm -rf /var/cache/man/* ; mandb
> >
> > PS: we have 8500+ packages built now.
> >
> > Happy hacking, and I am wishing your feedback.
> >
> 
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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Re: MIPS64EL rootfs available for use and test

2013-11-15 Thread Graham Whaley
On 14 November 2013 18:54, David Daney  wrote:

> On 11/14/2013 03:31 AM, Graham Whaley wrote:
> [...]
>
>  Hi David,
>>   out of interest, do you know if there are any commercially (ideally
>> easily and cheaply ;-) available boards out there that can run Octeon
>> little endian?
>>
>
> I don't know...
>
>
>  afaik things like the CN5020 based boards like the
>> Erlite-3 and CAM-0100 only do big, and afaik there is no (documented)
>> way to jumper them differently.
>>
>
> On OCTEON, the endianess is under software control, it is *not* a hardware
> strapping option.  With a suitable bootloader, we still start the system in
> big endian mode, but if a little-endian ELF image is loaded, we note the
> endianness, and switch to little endian mode as control is passed to the
> program entry point.
>
> It has only really been validated on OCTEON II and OCTEON III devices
> (cn6xxx and cn7xxx).  Certianly the CPU cores on the cn5020 are capable of
> little endian operation.  The I/O blocks on the other hand have not been
> validated for little endian operation on that part.
>
> It is known that the bootbus (where the NOR boot flash is connected) has
> problems in little endian mode on cn5020, so you probably wouldn't be able
> to use that from Linux.  Also the USB controller on cn5020 has not been
> adapted and validated for little endian use, so there would be work there.
>
>
>My presumption is that the Cavium Octeon devboards from Cavium
>> themselves (available I believe, but not too cheap) can do both?
>>
>
> As I said above, it is under software control, so any board should be able
> to do it (given the proper software).


Thanks David - that was all something I'd not come across before with
Octeon.
Is this functionality available in any of the open bootloaders (u-boot
etc.), or are there any references I can peek at (docs, wiki etc.) ?

 Graham


>
>
> David Daney
>


Subversion 1.8.4

2013-11-15 Thread Виталий Филиппов
Hello everyone!

As the latest packaged Subversion in Debian is now 1.8.4 and it seems 
that the maintainer doesn't care updating it by now (see 
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=725787), I've recently 
packaged svn 1.8.4 and serf 1.3.2 (which is needed by svn) by myself.

I've never tried to perform any package maintenance, but I would be very 
happy to contribute these packages to Debian... (NMU?)

What are the next steps for it? Should someone (some maintainer?) review 
it?

Source and binary packages are here (add to /etc/apt/sources.list):
deb http://vmx.yourcmc.ru/var/debian/ unstable/
deb-src http://vmx.yourcmc.ru/var/debian/ unstable/

The public key for my mini-archive can be taken here (run as command):
apt-key adv --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv c9d991da5f98c882

I've taken the 1.7 debian package as a base and removed/added/adjusted 
some patches.

Most tests pass... sqlite query plan tests with sqlite 3.8 were a tricky 
part, I've added a patch which loads correct index statistics in every 
SVN working copy database (without that SQLite 3.8 with NGQP didn't want 
to use indexes correctly)... Bug 722233 may be related to it 
(http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=722233)

Yet "most tests" doesn't mean "all", and I don't know how to correctly 
fix those that don't pass - it seems they're not related to build
environment (and there are comments like "these values pass, but I don't 
know if they are correct" in the code). So I've built them with:
DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="nocheck" dpkg-buildpackage

(Although, Dominik Stadler said in the bug 725787 that all tests passed in his 
Ubuntu PPA build 
based on mine one)

Re: Bug#729595: expect-lite: Please add expect-lite package to Squeeze & Wheezy

2013-11-15 Thread Adam D. Barratt

On 2013-11-15 8:32, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Jo, 14 nov 13, 12:39:04, Craig Miller wrote:

Please add expect-lite package to Squeeze & Wheezy

[...]

Since you will be the Maintainer of the package I think you wanted to
file an ITP (Intent to Package) and not an RFP (Request to package).
Please provide also the other informations usually included in an ITP
(see http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/#l2 )


For reference, the package will also _not_ be in squeeze or wheezy, as 
they are both already released.


It could, of course, be provided via {squeeze,wheezy}-backports once 
the package makes it as far as testing.


Regards,

Adam


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Re: Cross-directory hard links in Debian packages

2013-11-15 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 12:11:27PM +0100, Adam Borowski wrote:
> So you save a small number of inodes, and get problems if the filesystem's
> layout is unconventional.  Such savings don't seem to be worth the trouble
> to me.

I was questioning the existence of said trouble. I still do that. If the
number of affected users is small, then ignoring those few is a sensible
thing to do. For instance the publican package saved 3/4 of its binary
package size. If this were a problem, then maybe we should have seen a
bug report.

> You don't know what directory resides on what filesystem.  While splitting
> up /usr tends to be trouble, it is not unusual.  For example Maemo has:
> 
> /opt/pymaemo/usr/lib/python2.5 on /usr/lib/python2.5 type bind (bind,rbind)
> /opt/pymaemo/usr/share/pyshared on /usr/share/pyshared type bind (bind,rbind)
> /opt/pymaemo/usr/lib/pyshared on /usr/lib/pyshared type bind (bind,rbind)
> /opt/pymaemo/usr/share/python-support on /usr/share/python-support type bind 
> (bind,rbind)
> /opt/pymaemo/usr/lib/python-support on /usr/lib/python-support type bind 
> (bind,rbind)

These cases would not be problematic for my proposal. I was suggesting
to explicitly allow cross-directory hard links within any of these
locations, but not crossing each other.

> So I'd keep this requirement as is.

There is no requirement besides conffiles not being hard links. Having
hard links that cross /usr/share/pyshared and /usr/lib/pyshared is not a
policy violation.

Hence I was suggesting to clarify the policy on this aspect.

Helmut


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Re: Subversion 1.8.4

2013-11-15 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 01:39:07PM +0400, Виталий Филиппов wrote:
> I've never tried to perform any package maintenance, but I would be very 
> happy to contribute these packages to Debian... (NMU?)
> 
> What are the next steps for it? Should someone (some maintainer?) review 
> it?

Yes, someone needs to review it, but before that the package tests
need to be fixed so they a) run and b) pass, reliably and repeatably.

After that, either get the package maintainers to discuss the new
version, or find someone to take over the package if they no longer
want to or can maintain it. Doing an NMU for a package to upgrade it
to new upstream release should be done very carefully, and it should
avoid to override the maintainers unless it's critical.

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Bug#729659: general: problem with laptop suspend after dist-upgrade

2013-11-15 Thread Kuba
Package: general
Severity: normal

Dear Maintainer,
After running apt-get dist-upgrade, my laptop does not suspend properly:
Problems:
1) key shortcut - used to work (standard shortcut, worked out of the box), now
instead suspending, it causes screen lock
2) menu option - used to be above power off option (in gnome menu, this in top
right), now disapeared
3) closing lid - does nothing, used to suspend

when I type some magical command (found on http://askubuntu.com/questions/1792
/how-can-i-suspend-hibernate-from-command-line):
dbus-send --system --print-reply \
--dest="org.freedesktop.UPower" \
/org/freedesktop/UPower \
org.freedesktop.UPower.Suspend
system suspends propperly

laptop: Lenovo thinkpad t61p

Chears,
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Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Mark Brown
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Mark Brown 

* Package name: xemacs21
  Version : 21.4.22
  Upstream Author : XEmacs development team
  URL : http://www.xemacs.org/
  License : GPL
  Programming Lang: C, elisp
  Description : highly customizable text editor

XEmacs is a full fledged programming language with a mail reader,
news reader, info browser, web browser, calendar, specialized editor
for more programming languages and other formats than most people
encounter in a lifetime, and much more.

While develoment on xemacs is very slow these days I find it much more
visually pleasing than GNU emacs.


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Re: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Alberto Garcia
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:02:18PM +, Mark Brown wrote:

> * Package name: xemacs21
>   Version : 21.4.22

Wasn't this removed just one month ago?

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=725883

Berto


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Re: Cross-directory hard links in Debian packages

2013-11-15 Thread Andrew Shadura
Hello,

On Wed, 13 Nov 2013 10:19:17 +0100
Helmut Grohne  wrote:

> The tar file format supports hard links. Thus technically Debian
> packages can contain hard links. A significant number of packages
> including key packages such as bzip2, gzip, and ifupdown use this
> technique. While same-directory hard links are an established
> practise, the same is not so true for cross-directory hard links.

Isn't there a mistake? I can't remember having hard links in ifupdown.

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Re: Cross-directory hard links in Debian packages

2013-11-15 Thread Andrew Shadura
Hello,

On Fri, 15 Nov 2013 13:42:18 +0100
Andrew Shadura  wrote:

> > The tar file format supports hard links. Thus technically Debian
> > packages can contain hard links. A significant number of packages
> > including key packages such as bzip2, gzip, and ifupdown use this
> > technique. While same-directory hard links are an established
> > practise, the same is not so true for cross-directory hard links.

> Isn't there a mistake? I can't remember having hard links in ifupdown.

Huh, it seems you're right. Upon inspection, I've noticed ifdown is
hardlinked with ifup, and I have not a slightest idea why, as it was
supposed to be a symlink.

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Re: Cross-directory hard links in Debian packages

2013-11-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 11:16:19AM +0100, Helmut Grohne wrote:
> For instance the publican package saved 3/4 of its binary package
> size. If this were a problem, then maybe we should have seen a bug
> report.

I'm not sure that making a general rule based on an edge-case is a
good idea.  Publican is not very popular at all, it's quite likely
that none of the 70 or so people who have installed it have done
anything unusual with mounts around /usr.

Looking at publican a number of questions occur to me

 * why hardlink all of the contents of
   /usr/share/doc/publican/Users_Guide/desktop/$LOCALE/Common_Content
   together rather than symlink them to some common directory like
   /usr/share/publican/Common_Content? Is it because there might be
   additions or omissions across locales?

   * Can/should that not be handled within the tool itself (implement
 a multi-directory lookup process)


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Re: Subversion 1.8.4

2013-11-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 01:39:07PM +0400, Виталий Филиппов wrote:
> As the latest packaged Subversion in Debian is now 1.8.4 and it seems 
> that the maintainer doesn't care updating it by now (see 
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=725787),

A little over a month ago is not long enough to consider the maintainer
to either not care or to be MIA.


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Re: Bug#729595: expect-lite: Please add expect-lite package to Squeeze & Wheezy

2013-11-15 Thread Craig Miller
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 5:05 AM, Adam D. Barratt
wrote:

> On 2013-11-15 8:32, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
>
>> On Jo, 14 nov 13, 12:39:04, Craig Miller wrote:
>>
>>> Please add expect-lite package to Squeeze & Wheezy
>>>
>> [...]
>
>  Since you will be the Maintainer of the package I think you wanted to
>> file an ITP (Intent to Package) and not an RFP (Request to package).
>> Please provide also the other informations usually included in an ITP
>> (see http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/#l2 )
>>
>
> For reference, the package will also _not_ be in squeeze or wheezy, as
> they are both already released.
>
> It could, of course, be provided via {squeeze,wheezy}-backports once the
> package makes it as far as testing.
>
> Regards,
>
> Adam
>

Thanks Adam,

Yes, I am hoping to get the expect-lite package added as backports to the
already released versions of Debian.

thanks,

Craig...


Re: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 01:29:50PM +0100, Alberto Garcia wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:02:18PM +, Mark Brown wrote:

> > * Package name: xemacs21
> >   Version : 21.4.22

> Wasn't this removed just one month ago?

Yes, this is why I'm ITPing it.


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Re: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Paul R. Tagliamonte
Out of curiosity, how do you plan on solving it's six rc bugs?
 On Nov 15, 2013 9:10 AM, "Mark Brown"  wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 01:29:50PM +0100, Alberto Garcia wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:02:18PM +, Mark Brown wrote:
>
> > > * Package name: xemacs21
> > >   Version : 21.4.22
>
> > Wasn't this removed just one month ago?
>
> Yes, this is why I'm ITPing it.
>


Re: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 09:17:34AM -0500, Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote:

Don't top post.

> Out of curiosity, how do you plan on solving it's six rc bugs?

Yes, of course.  Well, the one that was there when I looked is fixed,
I'll see if the BTS tells me about any open ones after the reupload.


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Re: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 03:01:46PM +, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 09:17:34AM -0500, Paul R. Tagliamonte wrote:
> 
> Don't top post.

I was on my phone, thanks for the advice.

> > Out of curiosity, how do you plan on solving it's six rc bugs?
> 
> Yes, of course.  Well, the one that was there when I looked is fixed,
> I'll see if the BTS tells me about any open ones after the reupload.

No, I don't think it's wise to let this back in the archive before you
know how you're going to deal with *why* it was removed. God knows we
the ftpteam doesn't need more work (processing this from NEW to only rm
it a few short weeks later).


Before you put this in NEW, how do you plan on fixing the outstanding RC
bugs?

Cheers,
  Paul


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Re: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:06:37AM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:

> Before you put this in NEW, how do you plan on fixing the outstanding RC
> bugs?

By making changes to the software.


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Re: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 03:25:16PM +, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:06:37AM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> 
> > Before you put this in NEW, how do you plan on fixing the outstanding RC
> > bugs?
> 
> By making changes to the software.

No need to CC me, I'm subscribed.

This doesn't fill me with confidence that any of the reasons that it was
removed will be fixed.

I'd have to look at the RC bugs, but it's not out of the question that
would get xemacs a REJECT from NEW if they're not handled. At first
glance, #695799 appears to be one such bug.

so, again, how will you fix the open bugs before you upload to
NEW? Which bugs are you planning to fix?

I'm looking for a hard commitment here, Mark.

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Re: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 03:25:16PM +, Mark Brown wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:06:37AM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> 
> > Before you put this in NEW, how do you plan on fixing the outstanding RC
> > bugs?
> 
> By making changes to the software.

This discussion is getting a tad too antagonistic, maybe? May I
suggest someting?

* The FTP team has valid concerns about re-introducing a package
  that's already been removed, partly due to not being maintained well
  by a previous maintainer.

* Mark's a long-time Debian developer. We can expect him to do his
  best to fix the package before uploading, without interrogating him
  on the details at ITP time.

* Backups are tasty snacks. Let's all run a backup now.

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Re: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Jonathan Dowland
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:06:37AM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> I was on my phone, thanks for the advice.

I laboriously quote-post from my phone all the time. Emails should be
optimised for the reader, rather than the writer.

> No, I don't think it's wise to let this back in the archive before you
> know how you're going to deal with *why* it was removed. God knows we
> the ftpteam doesn't need more work (processing this from NEW to only rm
> it a few short weeks later).

There were four stated reasons for its removal, and RC-buggy was just
one. Unmaintained was another, and lack of maintenance is one sure fire
way to make sure that RC bugs aren't fixed. One that Mark is proposing
to address by maintaining the package.

> Before you put this in NEW, how do you plan on fixing the outstanding RC
> bugs?

Technically, there are no outstanding RC bugs, all bugs were closed when
it was removed.

Practically, of course there are likely to be issues that were opened
against the old package which will apply to the new one. But how did you
get to the figure 6 (elsewhere?) Is that Moritz's count from #725883?
How do you know which of those 6 are problems in the source, rather than
problems in the packaging (which may not be inherited by Mark's
packaging efforts?)

Furthermore, is it not usual practice for ftp master to comment on
actual packages, rather than theoretical ones? an ITP is "intent to
package". There's no package to critique yet!


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Re: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:39:46AM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 03:25:16PM +, Mark Brown wrote:
> > On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:06:37AM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte wrote:

> > > Before you put this in NEW, how do you plan on fixing the outstanding RC
> > > bugs?

> > By making changes to the software.

> No need to CC me, I'm subscribed.

Seems to be due to you setting Reply-To.

> This doesn't fill me with confidence that any of the reasons that it was
> removed will be fixed.

> I'd have to look at the RC bugs, but it's not out of the question that
> would get xemacs a REJECT from NEW if they're not handled. At first
> glance, #695799 appears to be one such bug.

That's a bug in a different package which I didn't ITP (or look at) yet,
it's just GFDL docs so the simple fix would obviously be to remove the
offending files.  There's only one RC bug in xemacs21 itself which I've
been able to see (a build fail with texinfo5) which is just a matter of
typing to fix.

> so, again, how will you fix the open bugs before you upload to
> NEW? Which bugs are you planning to fix?

> I'm looking for a hard commitment here, Mark.

My general approach to these things is to fix bugs as I go.  I don't
have any particular plan for how I'm going to fix things I've not even
looked at or looked for yet but given the lack of either development or
massive changes in the underlying platform I would be astonished if
there were anything insurmountable - the thing that was causing issues
before was that Ohura-san wasn't spending time on the package.

It's going to be quicker and simpler to actually fix the problems than
to go through and make an exhaustive list and analyse them, as Lars
suggested please do assume I'm going to make some reasonable effort to
not upload obviously broken stuff.


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Ignoring request to alter found versions of bug #729659 to the same values 
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Ignoring request to alter fixed versions of bug #729659 to the same values 
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2013-11-15 Thread Holger Levsen
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Re: Cross-directory hard links in Debian packages

2013-11-15 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 15 Nov 2013, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> Looking at publican a number of questions occur to me
> 
>  * why hardlink all of the contents of
>/usr/share/doc/publican/Users_Guide/desktop/$LOCALE/Common_Content
>together rather than symlink them to some common directory like
>/usr/share/publican/Common_Content? Is it because there might be
>additions or omissions across locales?

An HTML book generated by Publican is supposed to be self-contained. That
way it can be served by a webserver without any special configuration. It
can also be copied without troubles.

>* Can/should that not be handled within the tool itself (implement
>  a multi-directory lookup process)

In web browsers?

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Re: Cross-directory hard links in Debian packages

2013-11-15 Thread Helmut Grohne
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 01:50:05PM +, Jonathan Dowland wrote:
> I'm not sure that making a general rule based on an edge-case is a
> good idea.  Publican is not very popular at all, it's quite likely
> that none of the 70 or so people who have installed it have done
> anything unusual with mounts around /usr.

publican is just an example. You can find more packages employing the
same technique at
http://lintian.debian.org/tags/package-contains-hardlink.html.

But we should not only look at packages doing this, but packages that
are wasting precious mirror and disk space[1]:

binary package  #files  #bytes

wims-extra-all  11057   44415092
mixxx-data  73028055125
widelands-data  669212953306
code-aster-test 322559938595
sofia-sip-doc   31466848743
mailman 17452007439
texlive-lang-cjk16194986872
spikeproxy  16025934959
acl2-doc15987209512
freefoam-dev-doc14953145120
wims14582125970
triplea 13408641063
libqt4-dev  13375003042
libboost1.54-doc12404131392
libgrib-api-1.10.4  12101678922
lazarus-doc-1.0.10  117410734571
python-matplotlib-doc   117224691971
fonts-mathjax-extras1136141683
libboost1.53-doc10973717938
dotlrn  10965046637
libboost1.49-doc10913578000
gnat-4.4108310643007
openclipart2-libreoffice10462142208
sql-ledger  10419248930
esys-particle   10258243181
typo3-src-4.5   10191528729
texlive-fonts-extra 998 4687576
moodle  959 6392249
openbox-themes  926 200312
xfwm4-themes890 412192
grass-dev-doc   832 1124116
phpbb3-l10n 825 623634
fillets-ng-data 818 2712929
tuxpaint-stamps-default 813 2824876
optgeo  793 2681882
libbcel-java-doc760 17640174
publican750 5283082
msp430mcu   737 14475576
freegish-data   691 1252457
collabtive  687 1419645
fp-docs-2.6.2   683 2111629
libmapi-dev 681 31188
libnb-platform13-java-doc   678 1349378
murrine-themes  656 255650
ctpp2-doc   642 699880
fvwm-crystal634 800295
pacemaker-dev   628 1399352
libknopflerfish-osgi-java-doc   598 4134711
libreoffice-dmaths  588 905010
freefoam-user-doc   587 883850

The numbers above are the achievable savings by using links. A few of
those files will not be hard linkable for crossing popular file system
boundaries. Still the projected savings are significant. Clearly, a
generic solution is desirable. If you are interested in details on the
savings of a particular package, visit
http://dedup.debian.net/compare//. Roughly every 25th
file in the archive is duplicated within the same package. That's almost
1% of the uncompressed archive size.

> Looking at publican a number of questions occur to me
> 
>  * why hardlink all of the contents of
>/usr/share/doc/publican/Users_Guide/desktop/$LOCALE/Common_Content
>together rather than symlink them to some common directory like
>/usr/share/publican/Common_Content? Is it because there might be
>additions or omissions across locales?

Because it is more work to do so. One of the big advantages of using
hard links is that you don't have to choose a "primary location". These
hard links are generated at package build time.

>* Can/should that not be handled within the tool itself (implement
>  a multi-directory lookup process)

Again this is more work. It might be possible in the case of publican,
but if you look at the list above, you'll quickly notice that this
approach doesn't scale.

Is there any technical reason for rejecting the usage of hard links in
binary packages besides common file system boundaries?

In any case clarifying and documenting whether cross-directory hard
links are a tool to be used seems worthwhile to me.
 * Either they are to be avoided at all costs, then we have a hand full
   of violations to be fixed,
 * or they are a tool that can be used to significantly shrink mirror
   and installation size at very little effort.

Helmut

[1] ssh delfin.debian.org sqlite3 /srv/dedup.debian.org/dedup.sqlite3
'"SELECT package.name, sharing.files, sharing.size FROM package JOIN
sharing JOIN function WHERE sharing.p

Re: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 15 November 2013 12:02, Mark Brown  wrote:
> Package: wnpp
> Severity: wishlist
> Owner: Mark Brown 
>
> * Package name: xemacs21
>   Version : 21.4.22
>   Upstream Author : XEmacs development team
>   URL : http://www.xemacs.org/
>   License : GPL
>   Programming Lang: C, elisp
>   Description : highly customizable text editor
>
> XEmacs is a full fledged programming language with a mail reader,
> news reader, info browser, web browser, calendar, specialized editor
> for more programming languages and other formats than most people
> encounter in a lifetime, and much more.
>
> While develoment on xemacs is very slow these days I find it much more
> visually pleasing than GNU emacs.
>

Why should Debian carry this package?

Which virtual packages are you planning to provide?

Regards,

Dmitrijs.


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Re: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:39:46AM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte a écrit :
> 
> I'd have to look at the RC bugs.
>
> I'm looking for a hard commitment here

Hi Paul,

I think that if you focused on the compliance with the DFSG, then the NEW queue
could empty quicker.

It is a big problem, and it is also a problem of commitment, of doing one task
well instead of accepting too many responsibilities at the same time.  The FTP
team is not able to review packages as efficiently as it did in 2011-2012,
please take action by searching for more volunteers or reforming the system,
instead of loading yourself with extra work.

I know that other developers support the idea of having the FTP team doing more
checks, but looking at the backlog, this in practice is only wishful thinking,
that boils down to "I am happy that somebody else does the work".  This at the
moment does not work, therefore a different strategy is needed.

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wxWidgets 3.0 - espeakedit fixes

2013-11-15 Thread Reece Dunn
Hi,

I have attached two patches for espeakedit:

0001-*.patch -- This makes espeakedit compile.

0002-*.patch -- This fixes a segfault when constructing the wxFont
objects for SpectFrame. These were being constructed in the global
namespace. With wxWidgets 3.0, it now requires a gtk+ window when
constructing a wxFont. The change moves creation of the fonts to the
SpectFrame constructor, so a SpectFrame object holds them internally.
I have also removed FONT_NORMAL as this was not used in the code.

These are also available on my espeak github repository at
https://github.com/rhdunn/espeak on the master branch.

NOTE: These changes should be backward compatible with wxWidgets 2.8.

Now when I try and run espeakedit I get:

-
ASSERT INFO:
../src/gtk/font.cpp(337): assert "IsOk()" failed in GetPointSize(): invalid font

BACKTRACE:
[1] wxFont::GetPointSize() const
[2] wxObject::operator=(wxObject const&) /usr/include/wx-3.0/wx/object.h:374
[3] MyFrame::MyFrame(wxWindow*, int, wxString const&, wxPoint const&,
wxSize const&, long) .../espeak/src/espeakedit.cpp:279
[4] MyApp::OnInit() .../espeak/src/espeakedit.cpp:178
[5] wxEntry(int&, wchar_t**)
[6] main .../espeak/src/espeakedit.cpp:99
[7] __libc_start_main
[8] _start
-

This is on the src/espeakedit.cpp line:

notebook->AddPage(transldlg,_T("Text"),TRUE);

any ideas?

NOTE: Pressing 'Continue' on the dialog causes espeakedit to open and
display correctly. I haven't done any major testing, just fixed the
compilation and ensured it started correctly.

Thanks,
Reece H. Dunn (Cainteoir Technologies) [http://www.reecedunn.co.uk]
From fdf52edf89303bb25c15a114ed084f4c526a7e2c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: "Reece H. Dunn" 
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 00:49:45 +
Subject: [PATCH 1/2] wxwidgets 3.0: make espeakedit compile

---
 src/compiledata.cpp  | 5 +
 src/espeakedit.cpp   | 7 +--
 src/extras.cpp   | 5 +
 src/spectdisplay.cpp | 8 
 src/spectseq.cpp | 5 +
 src/transldlg.cpp| 6 ++
 src/vowelchart.cpp   | 5 +
 7 files changed, 39 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/compiledata.cpp b/src/compiledata.cpp
index 09645c3..4e22e81 100644
--- a/src/compiledata.cpp
+++ b/src/compiledata.cpp
@@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
 /***
  *   Copyright (C) 2005 to 2013 by Jonathan Duddington *
  *   email: jo...@users.sourceforge.net*
+ *   Copyright (C) 2013 by Reece H. Dunn   *
  * *
  *   This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify  *
  *   it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by  *
@@ -42,6 +43,10 @@
 #include 
 #endif
 
+#if wxCHECK_VERSION(3, 0, 0)
+#define wxOPEN wxFD_OPEN
+#endif
+
 extern void FindPhonemesUsed(void);
 extern void DisplayErrorFile(const char *fname);
 extern int utf8_in(int *c, const char *buf);
diff --git a/src/espeakedit.cpp b/src/espeakedit.cpp
index e632c5a..4980e41 100644
--- a/src/espeakedit.cpp
+++ b/src/espeakedit.cpp
@@ -43,7 +43,10 @@
 #include "translate.h"
 #include "prosodydisplay.h"
 
-
+#if wxCHECK_VERSION(3, 0, 0)
+#define wxOPEN wxFD_OPEN
+#define wxSAVE wxFD_SAVE
+#endif
 
 static const char *about_string2 = "espeakedit: %s\nAuthor: Jonathan Duddington (c) 2009\n\n"
 "Licensed under GNU General Public License version 3\n"
@@ -123,7 +126,7 @@ bool MyApp::OnInit(void)
 {//=
 
 int j;
-wxChar *p;
+const wxChar *p;
 char param[80];
 
 
diff --git a/src/extras.cpp b/src/extras.cpp
index fa6ac3b..2141a6e 100644
--- a/src/extras.cpp
+++ b/src/extras.cpp
@@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
 /***
  *   Copyright (C) 2006 to 2011 by Jonathan Duddington *
  *   email: jo...@users.sourceforge.net*
+ *   Copyright (C) 2013 by Reece H. Dunn   *
  * *
  *   This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify  *
  *   it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by  *
@@ -35,6 +36,10 @@
 #include "translate.h"
 #include "options.h"
 
+#if wxCHECK_VERSION(3, 0, 0)
+#define wxOPEN wxFD_OPEN
+#endif
+
 extern char word_phonemes[N_WORD_PHONEMES];// a word translated into phoneme codes
 extern int __cdecl string_sorter(char **a, char **b);
 
diff --git a/src/spectdisplay.cpp b/src/spectdisplay.cpp
index efeb897..0904547 100644
--- a/src/spectdisplay.cpp
+++ b/src/spectdisplay.cpp
@@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
 /***
  *   Copyright (C) 2005 to 2007 by Jonathan Duddington *
  *   email: jo...@users.sourceforge.net*
+ *   Copyright (C) 2013 by Reece H. Dun

Re: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Andreas Beckmann
There was a nice bunch of (5-digit) bugs being closed with the removal,
they should be unarchived, reopened and handled properly if xemacs comes
back.

from https://ftp-master.debian.org/removals.txt:

=
[Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 09:51:22 +] [ftpmaster: Ansgar Burchardt]
Removed the following packages from unstable:

[...]
xemacs21-packages | 2009.02.17.dfsg.1-1 | source
Closed bugs: 726023

--- Reason ---
RoQA; RC-buggy, unmaintained, dead upstream, not in stable
--
Also closing bug(s): 46985 54387 56180 62287 63340 64290 64723 65469
74787 76139 76938 79127 82417 87623 87723 92073 95825 113489 113598
113599 116355 120985 123882 132544 133894 134426 137251 143163 143363
145279 146844 153113 154971 160740 162587 163957 163958 163961 163962
171150 183004 231059 236070 246638 248545 277451 281891 318020 320339
326783 327259 399483 403611 403771 440460 513574 522670 527389 609603
665253 683700 695799 699543 709501 712316
Also closing WNPP bug(s):
=
=
[Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2013 09:52:05 +] [ftpmaster: Ansgar Burchardt]
Removed the following packages from unstable:

  xemacs21 |  21.4.22-4 | source, all
[...]
Closed bugs: 725883

--- Reason ---
RoQA; RC-buggy, unmaintained, dead upstream, not in stable
--
Also closing bug(s): 39667 40202 40203 42457 47287 47515 49056 50712
51542 54069 54857 55892 56542 57468 60974 61132 61355 61665 62005 63285
63476 63697 63707 63744 64058 64513 64835 65494 66408 67045 67386 68017
72210 74084 74104 75456 75920 75998 76992 77372 77558 78446 78447 79144
80280 81915 83610 85817 88953 90542 92310 94623 98489 98501 99501 100956
101759 102513 104211 104213 104758 105928 106146 107168 107472 107776
108633 109032 109187 109738 110584 110646 110778 110976 112894 113368
113491 113585 114693 114797 117731 118828 122992 126074 126298 126773
128065 133822 134172 134689 135362 135805 142197 142555 143039 143107
143231 143915 144096 144413 145799 145847 146542 14 147171 147426
147556 147830 148750 150692 152878 153224 153778 154725 155424 155740
156144 156513 156515 156874 157858 158314 158573 160377 163219 164734
165503 167335 169016 171263 171433 171824 171830 173557 174489 175050
175234 177269 179649 180895 181129 182062 183119 183866 184197 186294
187609 187999 190163 192072 192075 194161 196524 196870 197301 198485
200717 200781 203879 204817 204852 206118 206381 206530 209157 209594
214638 216775 217341 219098 219809 224373 226734 229822 230792 234193
234204 234392 243683 245389 250314 254734 258572 268832 268833 268835
269244 272243 272452 273817 282275 282610 283159 283415 283569 285990
292438 296339 297916 301750 301752 304800 307617 309747 310799 312919
317725 331315 333845 334830 336445 338066 341005 343083 343330 343663
350003 350081 353077 355026 355348 355349 356584 357045 364433 365927
374198 374808 377962 382427 382434 395209 398756 399269 400859 403425
403877 410482 419922 422731 431252 431910 434468 438513 442428 444614
446137 446889 449294 463684 477623 485736 497262 507866 527966 528900
529607 539834 542492 563714 576747 580611 586785 589138 598320 608691
619367 634666 649686 650581 662557 681407 696146 712355
Also closing WNPP bug(s):
=

Andreas


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wxWidgets 3.0 - espeakedit fixes

2013-11-15 Thread Reece Dunn
Hi,

I have attached two patches for espeakedit:

0001-*.patch -- This makes espeakedit compile.

0002-*.patch -- This fixes a segfault when constructing the wxFont
objects for SpectFrame. These were being constructed in the global
namespace. With wxWidgets 3.0, it now requires a gtk+ window when
constructing a wxFont. The change moves creation of the fonts to the
SpectFrame constructor, so a SpectFrame object holds them internally.
I have also removed FONT_NORMAL as this was not used in the code.

These are also available on my espeak github repository at
https://github.com/rhdunn/espeak on the master branch.

NOTE: These changes should be backward compatible with wxWidgets 2.8.

Now when I try and run espeakedit I get:

-
ASSERT INFO:
../src/gtk/font.cpp(337): assert "IsOk()" failed in GetPointSize(): invalid font

BACKTRACE:
[1] wxFont::GetPointSize() const
[2] wxObject::operator=(wxObject const&) /usr/include/wx-3.0/wx/object.
h:374
[3] MyFrame::MyFrame(wxWindow*, int, wxString const&, wxPoint const&,
wxSize const&, long) .../espeak/src/espeakedit.cpp:279
[4] MyApp::OnInit() .../espeak/src/espeakedit.cpp:178
[5] wxEntry(int&, wchar_t**)
[6] main .../espeak/src/espeakedit.cpp:99
[7] __libc_start_main
[8] _start
-

This is on the src/espeakedit.cpp line:

notebook->AddPage(transldlg,_T("Text"),TRUE);

any ideas?

NOTE: Pressing 'Continue' on the dialog causes espeakedit to open and
display correctly. I haven't done any major testing, just fixed the
compilation and ensured it started correctly.

Thanks,
Reece H. Dunn (Cainteoir Technologies) [http://www.reecedunn.co.uk]
From fdf52edf89303bb25c15a114ed084f4c526a7e2c Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: "Reece H. Dunn" 
Date: Sat, 16 Nov 2013 00:49:45 +
Subject: [PATCH 1/2] wxwidgets 3.0: make espeakedit compile

---
 src/compiledata.cpp  | 5 +
 src/espeakedit.cpp   | 7 +--
 src/extras.cpp   | 5 +
 src/spectdisplay.cpp | 8 
 src/spectseq.cpp | 5 +
 src/transldlg.cpp| 6 ++
 src/vowelchart.cpp   | 5 +
 7 files changed, 39 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/src/compiledata.cpp b/src/compiledata.cpp
index 09645c3..4e22e81 100644
--- a/src/compiledata.cpp
+++ b/src/compiledata.cpp
@@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
 /***
  *   Copyright (C) 2005 to 2013 by Jonathan Duddington *
  *   email: jo...@users.sourceforge.net*
+ *   Copyright (C) 2013 by Reece H. Dunn   *
  * *
  *   This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify  *
  *   it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by  *
@@ -42,6 +43,10 @@
 #include 
 #endif
 
+#if wxCHECK_VERSION(3, 0, 0)
+#define wxOPEN wxFD_OPEN
+#endif
+
 extern void FindPhonemesUsed(void);
 extern void DisplayErrorFile(const char *fname);
 extern int utf8_in(int *c, const char *buf);
diff --git a/src/espeakedit.cpp b/src/espeakedit.cpp
index e632c5a..4980e41 100644
--- a/src/espeakedit.cpp
+++ b/src/espeakedit.cpp
@@ -43,7 +43,10 @@
 #include "translate.h"
 #include "prosodydisplay.h"
 
-
+#if wxCHECK_VERSION(3, 0, 0)
+#define wxOPEN wxFD_OPEN
+#define wxSAVE wxFD_SAVE
+#endif
 
 static const char *about_string2 = "espeakedit: %s\nAuthor: Jonathan 
Duddington (c) 2009\n\n"
 "Licensed under GNU General Public License version 3\n"
@@ -123,7 +126,7 @@ bool MyApp::OnInit(void)
 {//=
 
 int j;
-wxChar *p;
+const wxChar *p;
 char param[80];
 
 
diff --git a/src/extras.cpp b/src/extras.cpp
index fa6ac3b..2141a6e 100644
--- a/src/extras.cpp
+++ b/src/extras.cpp
@@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
 /***
  *   Copyright (C) 2006 to 2011 by Jonathan Duddington *
  *   email: jo...@users.sourceforge.net*
+ *   Copyright (C) 2013 by Reece H. Dunn   *
  * *
  *   This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify  *
  *   it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by  *
@@ -35,6 +36,10 @@
 #include "translate.h"
 #include "options.h"
 
+#if wxCHECK_VERSION(3, 0, 0)
+#define wxOPEN wxFD_OPEN
+#endif
+
 extern char word_phonemes[N_WORD_PHONEMES];// a word translated into 
phoneme codes
 extern int __cdecl string_sorter(char **a, char **b);
 
diff --git a/src/spectdisplay.cpp b/src/spectdisplay.cpp
index efeb897..0904547 100644
--- a/src/spectdisplay.cpp
+++ b/src/spectdisplay.cpp
@@ -1,6 +1,7 @@
 /***
  *   Copyright (C) 2005 to 2007 by Jonathan Duddington *
  *   email: jo...@users.sourceforge.net*
+ *   Copyright (C) 2013 by Reece H. 

Re: Bug#729660: ITP: xemacs21 -- highly customizable text editor

2013-11-15 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 09:44:51AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> Le Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:39:46AM -0500, Paul Tagliamonte a écrit :
> > I'd have to look at the RC bugs.
> >
> > I'm looking for a hard commitment here
>
> Hi Paul,
> 
> I think that if you focused on the compliance with the DFSG, then the NEW 
> queue
> could empty quicker.

My comments, unless otherwise noted, are those of me, Paul, *not* the
ftpteam. I wasn't speaking for them, and I surely wouldn't do so without
saying I was.

This is my concern, as a DD, about an old fork, who's utility has been
superseded (IMVHO), and had many open bugs (as anbe points out), being
re-introduced (with nothing but good intentions) only to be removed
again, due to a dead upstream and tons of issues piling up. I don't
question the motives, nor intentions - just the workload in maintaining
something like this.

I'm not going to bother continuing to push this argument, since it's
none of my damn business, I was just trying to feel better about it.

For the record, I'd never abuse my role in the ftpteam to threten
REJECT to win an argument. That would be extremely scummy behavior, and
I'm not doing that now. Never have, never will.

As jmtd points out, I don't even have a package in front of me, so I
really can't comment yet.

I'll let this work it's self out, don't worry about me.


Much love,
  Paul

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