Re: New NM Front-desk Member

2009-08-31 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 10:49:29PM +0200, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
> the New-Maintainer Front-desk is happy to announce that Enrico Zini
>  followed our invitation to join the
> team. Welcome on board and many thanks for volunteering!

Yu-hu \o/

... and thanks to the (now enlarged) FD group for their sometime
thankless work.

Cheers.

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Bug#544399: ITP: rakudo -- implementation of Perl 6 for Parrot

2009-08-31 Thread Ryan Niebur
Package: wnpp
Owner: Ryan Niebur 
Severity: wishlist
X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org

* Package name: rakudo
  Version : "2009-08" aka PDX (will probably use 0.1~2009-08-1 for the 
package version)
  Upstream Author : The Rakudo Team
* URL : http://rakudo.org/
* License : Artistic License 2.0
  Programming Lang: Parrot
  Description : implementation of Perl 6 for Parrot

 Rakudo Perl is an implementation of the Perl 6 specification that
 runs on the Parrot virtual machine.

I won't be able to upload this for a while, because previous to the
current git version the build system didn't work with system installed
parrot. parrot and rakudo release go together (monthly), but the
debian maintainer of parrot only uploads the "stable" releases. So I
have to wait for the next stable version of parrot to be released and
uploaded to debian, and then for the corresponding version of rakudo
to be released. So it will probably be a few months...

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Bug#544402: ITP: r-cran-erm -- GNU R package for extended Rasch modelling

2009-08-31 Thread Julian Gilbey
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Julian Gilbey 

  Package name: r-cran-erm
  Version : 0.10-2
  Upstream Author : Patrick Mair and Reinhold Hatzinger
  URL : http://r-forge.r-project.org/projects/erm/
  License : GPL-2
  Programming Lang: R and C
  Description : GNU R package for extended Rasch modelling

 eRm fits Rasch models (RM), linear logistic test models (LLTM),
 rating scale model (RSM), linear rating scale models (LRSM), partial
 credit models (PCM), and linear partial credit models (LPCM). Missing
 values are allowed in the data matrix. Additional features are the ML
 estimation of the person parameters, Andersen's LR-test,
 item-specific Wald test, itemfit and personfit statistics including
 infit and outfit measures, various ICC and related plots, automated
 stepwise item elimination, simulation module for various binary data
 matrices. An eRm platform is provided at R-forge (see URL).



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Bug#544422: ITP: ibus-table-wu -- Wu input method based on table engine of ibus

2009-08-31 Thread Asias He
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Asias He 


* Package name: ibus-table-wu
  Version : 1.2.0.20090831
  Upstream Author : Caius "kaio" Chance 
* URL : http://code.google.com/p/ibus
* License : GPLv2
  Programming Lang: N/A
  Description : Wu input method based on table engine of ibus
 IBus-Table is the IM Engine framework for table-based input methods, such as
 WuBi, ErBi, Cangjie and so on.
 .
 This package provides one input method: Wu.
 .
 Wu is a Chinese input method.



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Bug#544427: ITP: ibus-table-ziranma -- Ziranma input method based on table engine of ibus

2009-08-31 Thread Asias He
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Asias He 


* Package name: ibus-table-ziranma
  Version : 1.2.0.20090831
  Upstream Author : Caius "kaio" Chance 
* URL : http://code.google.com/p/ibus
* License : GPLv2
  Programming Lang: N/A
  Description : Ziranma input method based on table engine of ibus
IBus-Table is the IM Engine framework for table-based input methods,
such as WuBi, ErBi, Cangjie and so on.
..
This package provides one input method: Ziranma.
..
Ziranma is a Chinese input method.



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Bug#544432: ITP: ibus-table-stroke5 -- Stroke5 input method based on table engine of ibus

2009-08-31 Thread Asias He
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Asias He 


* Package name: ibus-table-stroke5
  Version : 1.2.0.20090828
  Upstream Author : Caius 'kaio' Chance < k AT kaio DOT me >
* URL : http://code.google.com/p/ibus
* License : GPLv2
  Programming Lang: N/A
  Description : Stroke5 input method based on table engine of ibus

 IBus-Table is the IM Engine framework for table-based input methods,
 such as WuBi, ErBi, Cangjie and so on.
 .
 This package provides one input method: Stroke5.
 .
 Stroke5 is a Simplified Chinese input method. 



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Future of the s390 port

2009-08-31 Thread Bastian Blank
Hi folks

The s390 port was released with Lenny. However it is not in the best
condition.  There are mainly two problems which needs attention, lack of
manpower and a 64 bit userland.

The first problem is the worst.  Currently only Frans Pop and I do work
on it.  Frans only does the Debian-Installer part and I simply have not
enough time to do the rest.  The s390 architecture is quite different to
anything else, so it needs several specialized packages to work[1] and
they need lasting attention.  So if anyone wants to help (especially
Debian developers) for the continuity of this port please speak up.

The second problem is not that critical. No other distribution still
supports a complete 31 bit s390 userland and even Debian dropped the 31
bit kernel support in the meantime[2]. Strategies for an upgrade to a 64
bit userland was discussed lately[3].

I doubt that I would be able to push this port through another release
in the current state. The consequence would by that the port dies
completely and with it the only free and released distribution for this
machines.

Bastian

[1]: Mainly the kernel, generic tools (s390-tools), hardware support
(sysconfig-hardware) and a whole bunch of debian-installer packages.
[2]: <20090524185816.ga21...@wavehammer.waldi.eu.org>
[3]: <20090818204335.ga6...@droopy.oc.cox.net>
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Re: Future of the s390 port

2009-08-31 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Aug 31, Bastian Blank  wrote:

> I doubt that I would be able to push this port through another release
> in the current state. The consequence would by that the port dies
> completely and with it the only free and released distribution for this
> machines.
Is this really an important problem?
Does a significant number of people actually use Debian/s390 on
production servers? And if they exist, why they are not helping?

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Bug#544441: RFA: enemies-of-carlotta -- mailing list manager)

2009-08-31 Thread Lars Wirzenius
I forgot the X-Debbugs-Cc in my original e-mail, sorry.

Package: wnpp
Severity: normal

I would like to find a new maintainer for the enemies-of-carlotta
package. It is a mailing list manager, of which I am upstream. I will
gladly fix any bugs that exist upstream, but I do not wish to maintain
the package in Debian anymore. As upstream, I do not predict any great
changes, indeed no other changes than bug fixes.

If a new maintainer can't be found in two weeks, I'll ask for the
package to be removed from Debian.



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Re: Future of the s390 port

2009-08-31 Thread Michael Casadevall
On Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 12:46 PM, Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Aug 31, Bastian Blank  wrote:
>
>> I doubt that I would be able to push this port through another release
>> in the current state. The consequence would by that the port dies
>> completely and with it the only free and released distribution for this
>> machines.
> Is this really an important problem?
> Does a significant number of people actually use Debian/s390 on
> production servers? And if they exist, why they are not helping?
>
I think a bigger question is where do you find hardware where you can
get remote root on; I'm not very familiar with s390 or mainframes in
general, but its not a piece of hardware one individual person would
own. I'm aware of the Hercules emulator, but that doesn't seem like it
would be useful for general development of a port.
Michael
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> Marco
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Re: Future of the s390 port

2009-08-31 Thread Adam Thornton


On Aug 31, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Michael Casadevall wrote:


I think a bigger question is where do you find hardware where you can
get remote root on; I'm not very familiar with s390 or mainframes in
general, but its not a piece of hardware one individual person would
own. I'm aware of the Hercules emulator, but that doesn't seem like it
would be useful for general development of a port.


The Debian project has access to a couple of machines hosted by OSDL,  
or at least it used to (I haven't actually checked the status  
recently).  These are older machines (z800?) but still 64-bit.


The death of Flex-ES and the lack of a P/390, Integrated Server, or  
even H50/H70 equivalent for zSeries has left a hole in the market for  
lower-end developers (not just in the Debian or even Linux space).   
Hercules is actually pretty useful except in that it doesn't emulate a  
lot of modern peripheral hardware, particularly the QDIO OSA  
interfaces and the Fibre Channel interfaces which are a fact of life  
on modern z boxes.


Adam


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Re: Future of the s390 port

2009-08-31 Thread Adam Thornton


On Aug 31, 2009, at 11:28 AM, Bastian Blank wrote:



The first problem is the worst.  Currently only Frans Pop and I do  
work
on it.  Frans only does the Debian-Installer part and I simply have  
not
enough time to do the rest.  The s390 architecture is quite  
different to

anything else, so it needs several specialized packages to work[1] and
they need lasting attention.  So if anyone wants to help (especially
Debian developers) for the continuity of this port please speak up.


I'd like to help; my time has become much more limited than during  
previous release cycles, though, and my access to modern zSeries  
hardware has also become more limited.


I can test installation, but on nothing anywhere near a full  
complement of device types, and I can make recommendations and  
amendments to a fair number of the sysconfig shell scripts and the  
shell scripts in the d-i packages.  And given the pressures of my day  
job I can't really guarantee that I will be able to respond to any  
specific item in a timely fashion.


I wish I could do more.

Adam


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Re: Future of the s390 port

2009-08-31 Thread Frans Pop
Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On Aug 31, Bastian Blank  wrote:
>> I doubt that I would be able to push this port through another release
>> in the current state. The consequence would by that the port dies
>> completely and with it the only free and released distribution for this
>> machines.
>
> Is this really an important problem?
> Does a significant number of people actually use Debian/s390 on
> production servers?

That's hard to say, but I've seen 4 or 5 separate reports from people 
who've wanted to install stable on s390 systems in the past 2 months [1]. 
That was more than I'd expected for s390.

Cheers,
FJP

[1] We got the reports because the stable kernel for s390 was broken.


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Bug#544454: ITP: libnet-bonjour-perl -- Perl module for DNS service discovery

2009-08-31 Thread Christine Spang
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Christine Spang 

* Package name: libnet-bonjour-perl
  Version : 0.96
  Upstream Author : George Chlipala 
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Net-Bonjour/
* License : Perl (Artistic | GPL-1+)
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : Perl module for DNS service discovery

Net::Bonjour is a set of modules that allow Perl programs to discover local
services via multicast DNS (mDNS) or enterprise services via traditional DNS.



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Bug#544486: ITP: python-keyring -- Store and access your passwords safely

2009-08-31 Thread Carl Chenet
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Carl Chenet 


* Package name: python-keyring
  Version : 0.1
  Upstream Author : Kang Zhang 
* URL : http://pypi.python.org/pypi/keyring
* License : PSF
  Programming Lang: Python
  Description : Store and access your passwords safely

The Python keyring library provides an easy way to access the system
keyring service (e.g GnomeKeyring, KDEKWallet) from Python.
It can be used in any application that needs safe password storage.
The Python keyring library also provides build-in keyrings.



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Re: Compiling libbam.a from libbam-dev with -fPIC?

2009-08-31 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Aug 31, 2009 at 01:23:39AM +0100, Stephen Gran a écrit :
> This one time, at band camp, Charles Plessy said:
> > Le Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 08:06:09PM -0700, Steve Langasek a écrit :
> > > On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 11:56:58AM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
> > > > as per Policy § 10.2, I would like to know if everybody agrees if I 
> > > > change the
> > > > libbam-dev package to compile libbam.a with -fPIC.
> > 
> > > What are the reasons for not shipping a shared library?  That's always
> > > preferred over use of -fPIC for static libs, so we should examine the
> > > reasons for this first.
> > 
> > I forgot to mention that the upstream sources do not build a shared library.
> 
> Is there some reason you as a maintainer can't?  If the library has no
> API or ABI stability, that might be a good reason not to (although it's
> a better reason to talk to upstream about why they have to do so), but
> otherwise, why not just do it?

I started to write a message about to ask upstream why they do not make a
shared version of libbam, but I am blocked because I could not give good reason
of why Debian can not make -fPIC version of libbam. To my knowledge, libbam is
used by the samtools themselves, as well as the Bio::SamTools perl library. For
Bio::SamTools, -fPIC is definitely not a problem because the upstream README
mentions to use this option if necessary. For the samtools program, it will be
easy to prepare a version that is built against a non-fPIC libbam.a, but I fail
to understand why it is important since if upstream releases a shared version
of libbam, it will have to be compiled with -fPIC anyway, which makes little
difference between the situation we want to avoid and the situation we want to
recommend.

Have a nice day,

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Bug#544498: ITP: libterm-encoding-perl -- Perl module to detect encoding of the current terminal

2009-08-31 Thread Christine Spang
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Christine Spang 

* Package name: libterm-encoding-perl
  Version : 0.02
  Upstream Author : Tatsuhiko Miyagawa 
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Term-Encoding/
* License : Perl (Artistic | GPL-1+)
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : Perl module to detect encoding of the current terminal

Term::Encoding is a simple module to detect an encoding the current terminal
expects, in various ways.



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udev and /usr

2009-08-31 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 31, md wrote:

> The issue was raised by the udev upstream maintainer along with the udev
> package maintainers of the major distributions, who all agreed that this
> configuration is not supported.
FYI, udev 146 ships usb-id and pci-id programs which read
/usr/share/misc/usb.ids and /usr/share/misc/pci.ids .
udev itself does not care about the results of these programs but other
programs which used to use HAL may do, leading to subtle breakage.

There are no obvious workarounds and I have no plan to fight against
this, if you need it to work on systems with a standalone /usr then
feel free to persuade the relevant maintainers to move the files.

I also opened #544503 because supporting a standalone /var looks like
a worthwhile effort, while supporting updating usb.ids with a script
instead of apt looks like a complete idiocy.

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Re: udev and /usr

2009-08-31 Thread Michael Biebl
Marco d'Itri wrote:
> On May 31, md wrote:
> 
>> The issue was raised by the udev upstream maintainer along with the udev
>> package maintainers of the major distributions, who all agreed that this
>> configuration is not supported.
> FYI, udev 146 ships usb-id and pci-id programs which read
> /usr/share/misc/usb.ids and /usr/share/misc/pci.ids .

Wouldn't make it sense then if udev had a recommends or at least suggests for
usbutils and pciutils?

> udev itself does not care about the results of these programs but other
> programs which used to use HAL may do, leading to subtle breakage.

How will usb-id and pci-id behave, if the ids files are not accessible?

> There are no obvious workarounds and I have no plan to fight against
> this, if you need it to work on systems with a standalone /usr then
> feel free to persuade the relevant maintainers to move the files.
> 
> I also opened #544503 because supporting a standalone /var looks like
> a worthwhile effort, while supporting updating usb.ids with a script
> instead of apt looks like a complete idiocy.

I agree with you. Given that I had more than once bug reports against hal due to
broken pci.ids or usb.ids files, I'd prefer if update-usbids and update-pciids
would go away.


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