Re: ITH: uclibc

2007-03-02 Thread Florian Weimer
* Simon Richter:

> I plan to make the package cross-buildable for all of Debian's official
> plus a few unofficial architectures (armeb for example), split each
> library into its own package in order to save space when installing on
> an embedded system

Is this really necessary?  I think for embedded use, you need some
kind of post-installation post-processing anyway.  Couldn't removing
the unnecessary parts happen at this stage?  (Without post-processing,
the per-package metadata alone might eat up all the gains from
splitting the package.)


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Re: On management

2007-03-02 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> That, I fully agree with. I also had the chance to see a good project
> manager in action, and that makes a huge difference.
> 
> I'm not convinced at all that *funding* a manager would do any good to
> the project. Which is why I'm wondering if there are ways to attract a
> few people with such profiles in the project. We have attracted many
> developers, sysadmins, translators, and everything we need to run the
> project; there must be a way to do the same for other profiles.

Do you believe that the DPL is not a management position ?

In a recent discussion with Josip, we were talking about management vs
leadership and he concluded that the DPL can't do much leadership because
the real decisions are taken by all the teams/delegates, however his
position is surely one of management since he needs to make sure that all
teams interact correctly and they can rely on each other with confidence.

There's some truth in that and I certainly expect a DPL team to have a big
role to play in management and coordination.

Contrary to Josip, I do think there's some leadership left, but only if he
has enough time to invest in actually doing things instead of discussing
with everybody.

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Re: Bug#412919: ITP: predictive -- Text completion package for Emacs

2007-03-02 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Mar 01, 2007 at 09:43:11AM +1100, Jan Alonzo wrote:
>  Predictive is a minor-mode, text-completion package for Emacs. When enabled,
>  predictive mode exploits the redundancy inherent in languages in order to
>  complete words you are typing before you've finished typing them (somewhat
>  like the IntelliSense feature in some IDEs). It is highly customisable, and

Sorry, but I found the content of the above parens to be misleading.

The main point of IntelliSense [1] is not about the actual completion
which type the word after you started typing it, is more about where to
find the possible completions and, in particular to find them via some
kind of representation of a codebase (e.g. the list of all methods
belonging to the class of the instance named to the left of a '.').

So, I ask you: either this is what "predictive" does for Emacs, maybe in
some programmable way (and would be like Vim's omnicompletion feature)
or it "just" complete in a single way using the word in the current
buffer (as plain Vim's autocompletion) and then it would be better do
describe it as "autocompletion".

Cheers.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IntelliSense

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Re: On management

2007-03-02 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Thursday 01 March 2007 22:28, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> First, please keep your bullshit about dunc-tank outside this otherwise
> interesting discussion.

be liberal what you accept, and conservative what you send?


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Bug#413124: ITP: webdiff -- powerful tool to check for web page updates

2007-03-02 Thread Stephan Beyer
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Stephan Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hi, 

I intend to package my tool `webdiff'. In fact, it is packaged, the ITP
is just formalism.

* Package name: webdiff
  Version : 20070302
  Upstream Author : Stephan Beyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://213.239.210.122/~sbeyer/tools/webdiff/webdiff.tgz
* License : GPL
  Programming Lang: Ruby
  Description : powerful tool to check for web page updates

webdiff is a powerful and easy-to-use web page update checker. Updates are
recognized using several test criteria (diff, html, size, date, md5sum, 
regexp). Without any given options, webdiff will only print the URIs of 
web pages that changed - one per line - so that the output of webdiff can
easily be used by further scripts (e.g. wget or mail).
In `diff' and `html' mode a diff-like output can be generated from the
changes. It also comes with a built-in interactive configuration tool.

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 4.0
  APT prefers testing
  APT policy: (500, 'testing')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Shell:  /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash
Kernel: Linux 2.6.16-2-amd64-k8-smp
Locale: LANG=sv_SE.ISO-8859-15, LC_CTYPE=sv_SE.ISO-8859-15 (charmap=ISO-8859-15)

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Bug#413128: ITP: nist-dlmf -- NIST's Digital Library of Mathematical Functions

2007-03-02 Thread Thaddeus H. Black
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Thaddeus H. Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

* Package name: nist-dlmf
  Version : 1.0.0
  Upstream Author : U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology <[EMAIL 
PROTECTED]>
* URL : http://dlmf.nist.gov/
* License : U.S. government issue, uncopyrighted (refer to Abramowitz & 
Stegun, page II)
  Description : NIST's Digital Library of Mathematical Functions

>From the upstream web site:

Abramowitz and Stegun's Handbook of Mathematical Functions with
Formulas, Graphs, and Mathematical Tables is being completely
rewritten with regard to the needs of today.  The new DLMF
(Digital Library of Mathematical Functions) will appear in a
hardcover edition and as a free electronic publication on the
World Wide Web.  The authors will review the relevant published
literature and produce approximately twice the number of
formulas that were contained in the original Handboook.  The
DLMF will make full use of advanced communications and
computational resources to present downloadable math data,
manipulable graphs, tables of numerical values, and math-aware
search.  The authoritative status of the existing Handbook, and
its orientation toward applications in science, statistics,
engineering and computation, will be preserved.

Thus the utilitarian value of the Handbook will be extended far
beyond its original scope and the traditional limitations of
printed media.  The term digital library has gained acceptance
for this kind of information resource, and our choice of project
title reflects our hope that the NIST DLMF will be a vehicle for
revolutionizing the way applicable mathematics in general is
practiced and delivered.

NIST plans to release the DLMF during 2007.


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Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-03-02 Thread Theodore Tso
On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 10:30:39AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le mardi 27 février 2007 à 09:24 +0100, Eduard Bloch a écrit :
> > And how do you help a maintainer that does not admit that he needs help?
> 
> I can't believe people are thinking such crap.
> 
> Please show me where a current maintainer of Mozilla, KDE, GNOME, the
> glibc, the kernel, X.org or any such big group of packages said he
> didn't need help for them.
> 
> YES. WE NEED HELP. NOW.
> We are *all* *COMPLETELY UNDERSTAFFED*.
> We are drowning in bug reports and are not able to answer all of them,
> especially old ones dating from the pre-teams era.
> 
> Who is not acknowledging such obvious things?

So how do you help a maintainer who refuses help if it is paid?

OK.  The large teams are *COMPLETELY UNDERSTAFFED*.  Volunteer labor
is not able to keep up.  Suppose we or some outside organization like
dunc-tank raised money to pay someone who could afford to work
full-time, 40 hours a week, doing bug triage for these large projects.

Would those projects refuse help if the people doing the work happened
if some of the people who showed up to help you from not "drowning in
bug reports" just happened to be paid by Debian or by an outside group
to do this work for which you have so eloquently said it's hard to get
volunteers, and for which others have said is completely unfun,
tedious work?

Even if one or two people (for reasons that I don't understand) would
stop spending maybe 10-12 hours a week on top of whatever they do
during the day to earn money to feed his family because there is now
some paid help, I would think that raising money to find someone to
work 40 hours a week would be a Good Thing

- Ted


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Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-03-02 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le vendredi 02 mars 2007 à 08:37 -0500, Theodore Tso a écrit :
> So how do you help a maintainer who refuses help if it is paid?

Hahaha, awesome. You don't miss any occasion, do you?

Thanks, you really made my day.

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Re: On maintainers not responding to bugs

2007-03-02 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 08:37:01AM -0500, Theodore Tso wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2007 at 10:30:39AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> > Le mardi 27 février 2007 à 09:24 +0100, Eduard Bloch a écrit :
> > > And how do you help a maintainer that does not admit that he needs help?
> > 
> > I can't believe people are thinking such crap.
> > 
> > Please show me where a current maintainer of Mozilla, KDE, GNOME, the
> > glibc, the kernel, X.org or any such big group of packages said he
> > didn't need help for them.
> > 
> > YES. WE NEED HELP. NOW.
> > We are *all* *COMPLETELY UNDERSTAFFED*.
> > We are drowning in bug reports and are not able to answer all of them,
> > especially old ones dating from the pre-teams era.
> > 
> > Who is not acknowledging such obvious things?
> 
> So how do you help a maintainer who refuses help if it is paid?
> 
> OK.  The large teams are *COMPLETELY UNDERSTAFFED*.  Volunteer labor
> is not able to keep up.  Suppose we or some outside organization like
> dunc-tank raised money to pay someone who could afford to work
> full-time, 40 hours a week, doing bug triage for these large projects.
> 
> Would those projects refuse help if the people doing the work happened
> if some of the people who showed up to help you from not "drowning in
> bug reports" just happened to be paid by Debian or by an outside group
> to do this work for which you have so eloquently said it's hard to get
> volunteers, and for which others have said is completely unfun,
> tedious work?
> 
> Even if one or two people (for reasons that I don't understand) would
> stop spending maybe 10-12 hours a week on top of whatever they do
> during the day to earn money to feed his family because there is now
> some paid help, I would think that raising money to find someone to
> work 40 hours a week would be a Good Thing


  You forgot a single damn point: in debian, like in many projects, the
one that "do" things is often the guy that "decide" things because he's
the one there. If you put people that work 5 times more as me because
they have the time to do that, I will obviously feel they took my
place. I'm not sure what I would do in those cases. Obviously not
refusing the help and people that have the time to do this, but I would
obviously lessen my implication and work for other teams where I've a
single damn chance to see my contribution to be compareable to the
others.

  I would feel bad to impose my views to a person that has huges amounts
of time to work in the team. And necessarily (because of human nature)
a decision will happen that I would not like or would have made
differently, and at that point I guess that I would just leave.

  Whereas in balanced teams where every contributor has the same level
of contribution, I would have argued my point, or tried to make the
proposal better, or discussed it or... whichever adequate behaviour in a
team where every single member is equal to the other.

  Money introduces bias. OK you were talking about bug triaging, and bug
triaging is not necessarily a big decision making place, I agree. Though
it will depend a lot of the kind of people you want to recruit:
  * if those are already contributors they will want to take more and
more decisions, and won't only do bug triaging: if you do bug
triaging you begin to know packages a lot, and become skilled
enough to take decisions, and so on. Then commits rights are
granted, and you take more and more responsibilities. That's good,
it's indeed what is often suggested to newcomers. Though we end up
in the not-so-nice situation I described.

  * Or it's a one-time job (even if that need to be run for 6 month to
reduce the backlog we have in some teams) and well, I don't really
see the durability here.


  If you really want to spend money to make bug triaging better, then
there is a lot of room for improvement in our BTS. At least it was our
BTS that made things the most painful when I dealt with bugs, and I had
to develop many tools, many url-crafters, many scripts to extract the
very information that I would have had in the first place. Not to
mention the absolutely horrible delays in the time the BTS needs to deal
with mails to control@ (but I know this improved a lot recently thanks
to the new host, dunno for how long though).


  but please, I'm not sure there is a damn single maintainer in a big
team that will refuse help, paid or not. I don't really understand how
that mythical maintainer in a big team that refuses help has emerged in
the discussions, but I'd really like names here. In fact, that seems
pretty contradictory with the very notion of a team. Of course, there is
teams with 1 single member in it in debian, but that's not a "large
team" and is out of the scope if I'm not mistaken.

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Re: Work-needing packages report for Mar 2, 2007

2007-03-02 Thread Vincent Bernat
Hi !

I have read the recent  discussion about maintainers not responding to
bug  reports and  about helping  existant teams.  This kind  of report
seems to be the best way to find who need help.

I have  looked at  the following bug  report since  I may help  on the
concerned packages.

>apt-show-versions (#382026), requested 205 days ago
>  Description: lists available package versions with distribution
>  Installations reported by Popcon: 2267

No answer to a someone proposing help.

>cvs (#354176), requested 371 days ago
>  Description: Concurrent Versions System
>  Reverse Depends: bonsai crossvc cvs-autoreleasedeb cvs-buildpackage
>cvs2cl cvs2html cvschangelogbuilder cvsconnect cvsd cvsdelta (17
>more omitted)
>  Installations reported by Popcon: 12145

Idem.

>docbook (#358522), requested 344 days ago
>  Description: standard SGML representation system for technical
>documents
>  Reverse Depends: alcovebook-sgml docbook-dsssl docbook-to-man
>sgmltools-lite
>  Installations reported by Popcon: 3864

I suppose the discussion has been taken off list here.

>gpsdrive (#406522), requested 49 days ago
>  Description: Car navigation system
>  Installations reported by Popcon: 303

Idem here.

>lighttpd (#401575), requested 87 days ago
>  Description: A fast webserver with minimal memory footprint
>  Reverse Depends: lighttpd-mod-cml lighttpd-mod-magnet
>lighttpd-mod-mysql-vhost lighttpd-mod-trigger-b4-dl
>lighttpd-mod-webdav
>  Installations reported by Popcon: 427

No answer to two people proposing help.

>openssl (#332498), requested 511 days ago
>  Description: Secure Socket Layer (SSL) binary and related
>cryptographic tools
>  Reverse Depends: afbackup afbackup-client alpine alpine-pico
>anon-proxy aolserver4-nsimap aolserver4-nsopenssl apache-dbg
>apache-ssl apache2-prefork-dev (546 more omitted)
>  Installations reported by Popcon: 26299

This one seems handled appropriately.

First remark :  the list is very short. Maybe RFH  should be used more
widely.

Second remark :  except for OpenSSL, on my selection,  it is not clear
whatever is happening. For most of them, as a non DD, I think that the
maintainer is not answering to propositions. Maybe he answers off-list
or  maybe he  is  waiting for  some  concrete actions  like solving  a
bug.

For me, helping  Debian is an hard task and  more guidelines should be
provided :
 - I  report  bugs but  I  think  that  maintainers should  ack  them,
   especially when the package has no active bugs.
 - I am not very good at translation
 - I don't use KDE nor Gnome so I cannot help on those one
 - I  have looked  over bugs  of glibc but  I am  not a  specialist of
   pthread,  aio and  most  bugs seem  hard  to hunt.  I have  however
   subscribed to the glibc-devel mailing list
 - I have packaged and seeked sponsor for two packages ; still no luck
   but this seems difficult to find sponsors
 - I look for orphaned packages but nothing for me yet
 - I look for RFH, but see above

This is a pity for me to  not be able to help Debian efficiently since
I am a Debian user since 2001 and I think I am relatively good skilled
with this distribution.
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Re: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: /usr/sbin/sshd: wrong DISPLAY is due to hijacking someone other's one...]

2007-03-02 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Thu, 2007-03-01 at 17:44 -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:

> | if (ai->ai_next)
> | continue;


I believe these two lines are the source of the bug.  Here's the change
that introduced it:
http://www.openbsd.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb/src/usr.bin/ssh/channels.c#rev1.183

The commit message cites:
http://mail-index.netbsd.org/current-users/2002/09/16/0005.html
which says that binding to the wildcard IPv6 address fails if no
interfaces have IPv6 addresses assigned.  I think that's a BSD kernel
bug that we don't need to pander to (and has probably been fixed in the
mean time).

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Bug#413156: ITP: libgeo-ip-perl -- Perl bindings for GeoIP library

2007-03-02 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: "Nikita V. Youshchenko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


* Package name: libgeo-ip-perl
  Version : 1.27-1
  Upstream Author : MaxMind LLC
* URL : http://www.maxmind.com/
* License : GPL/Artistic
  Programming Lang: Perl
  Description : Perl bindings for GeoIP library

Geo::IP is a Perl external module which provides an interface to
GeoIP library.

GeoIP is a C library that enables the user to find the country that any
IP address or hostname originates from.  It uses a file based database
that is accurate as of March 2002.  This database simply contains IP blocks
as keys, and countries as values.  This database should be more complete and
accurate than using reverse DNS lookups.


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Re: On management

2007-03-02 Thread Peter Samuelson

[Roberto C. Sanchez]
> I am not advocating having a manager without technical competency or
> the ability to understand technical issues.  Just that being a
> manager does not require being a fourth-degree blackbelt in Perl or
> having written a textbook on C++ programming.

And you think the current NM process is geared toward people who have a
fourth-degree blackbelt in Perl or have written a textbook on C++
programming?

My experience is that the expectations on new maintainers are far, far
lower.  You're supposed to know how to build packages that don't suck,
but I don't remember noticing any test of my skills as a programmer,
beyond simple shell scripting.

If an applicant knows enough about Debian's technical side of things to
be an effective manager for Debian processes, I don't see why that
person should have any more trouble with NM than programmers do.

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Re: Work-needing packages report for Mar 2, 2007

2007-03-02 Thread Daniel Leidert
Am Freitag, den 02.03.2007, 21:32 +0100 schrieb Vincent Bernat:

> I have read the recent  discussion about maintainers not responding to
> bug  reports and  about helping  existant teams.  This kind  of report
> seems to be the best way to find who need help.

[..]
> >docbook (#358522), requested 344 days ago
> >  Description: standard SGML representation system for technical
> >documents
> >  Reverse Depends: alcovebook-sgml docbook-dsssl docbook-to-man
> >sgmltools-lite
> >  Installations reported by Popcon: 3864
> 
> I suppose the discussion has been taken off list here.

This bug and the docbook-xml bug should be closed with one of the next
uploads. There simply was no upload yet to close these reports (but help
is always welcome).

[..]
>  - I look for RFH, but see above

If you are interested in the XML/SGML (related) packages, just join the
Debian XML/SGML group :).

Regards, Daniel


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Re: Work-needing packages report for Mar 2, 2007

2007-03-02 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO En cette nuit nuageuse du  samedi 03 mars 2007, vers 00:58, Daniel
Leidert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> disait:

>> - I look for RFH, but see above

> If you are interested in the XML/SGML (related) packages, just join the
> Debian XML/SGML group :).

The problem would be to find time to read all those ML. :)
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Re: On management

2007-03-02 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Fri, Mar 02, 2007 at 05:58:58PM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote:
> 
> [Roberto C. Sanchez]
> > I am not advocating having a manager without technical competency or
> > the ability to understand technical issues.  Just that being a
> > manager does not require being a fourth-degree blackbelt in Perl or
> > having written a textbook on C++ programming.
> 
> And you think the current NM process is geared toward people who have a
> fourth-degree blackbelt in Perl or have written a textbook on C++
> programming?
> 
Not at all.  It is biased in favor of those types of people.  As a
consequence of that, pretty much everyone with managerial
responsibilities within the project is a very experienced DD and so has
developed lots of those skills.  I am not saying that this is a bad
thing.  Simply that many of those skills are not used as part of the
managerial duties.  Having technical understanding is still important as
is knowing who the experts in various things are and when to trust their
judgment and recommendations.

> My experience is that the expectations on new maintainers are far, far
> lower.  You're supposed to know how to build packages that don't suck,
> but I don't remember noticing any test of my skills as a programmer,
> beyond simple shell scripting.
> 
I had to do some shell scripting as well to show that understood some of
the things that dpkg and apt were doing behind the scenes.

> If an applicant knows enough about Debian's technical side of things to
> be an effective manager for Debian processes, I don't see why that
> person should have any more trouble with NM than programmers do.
> 
It's not that.  What I was trying to get across was that there are
people out there who are good mangers and have some technical knowledge
and would be a great asset to the Debian project in a management
capacity.  However, that does not mean that such a person needs to pass
the traditional NM process with all of its technical hurdles.

> Peter, also in NM

Regards,

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Re: [Pkg-cryptsetup-devel] From Charles Cole (UK)

2007-03-02 Thread thinker

who the heck is charles cole




Charles Cole wrote:
> 
> Compliments,
> 
>  I am Charles Cole and i presently work in the London out-station office
> of a world reknowed organisation.
> 
>  Please pardon my approaching you through this medium, as i ask you to
> consider the issues seriously.
> 
>   Since July 1997, the Swiss Banker's Association, published a list of
> dormant accounts originally opened by non-Swiss citizens and with the
> efforts of my organisation, there has been a discovery of over 47,000
> additional dormant accounts, ranging from interest-bearing savings
> accounts, securities accounts, custody accounts, non-interest-bearing
> transaction accounts, as well as numbered accounts.
>  
>  During our end of year compilation for 2006, i stumbled on a particular
> account belonging to one late Mr. PHILIP HAY, with a balance of
> $14,700,000 and without any hint of a surviving beneficiary.
>  
>  I am seeking your sincere co-operation, so i can present your details as
> the beneficiary to the deposit, so that the funds will be transferred to
> any account(s) you provide, then we can arrange to meet at any location to
> discuss business and share the funds with equal percentages.50%-50%.
>  
>  Please contact me immediately, and let me know if you are going to be
> able to assist me or not, so i can immediately send you more information,
> while i want us to speak as soon as possible, as everything will be done
> under legal conditions to ensure there are no risks involved.
>  
> Regards,
> Charles Cole
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Pkg-cryptsetup-devel] From Charles Cole (UK)

2007-03-02 Thread thinker

who the heck is charles cole




Charles Cole wrote:
> 
> Compliments,
> 
>  I am Charles Cole and i presently work in the London out-station office
> of a world reknowed organisation.
> 
>  Please pardon my approaching you through this medium, as i ask you to
> consider the issues seriously.
> 
>   Since July 1997, the Swiss Banker's Association, published a list of
> dormant accounts originally opened by non-Swiss citizens and with the
> efforts of my organisation, there has been a discovery of over 47,000
> additional dormant accounts, ranging from interest-bearing savings
> accounts, securities accounts, custody accounts, non-interest-bearing
> transaction accounts, as well as numbered accounts.
>  
>  During our end of year compilation for 2006, i stumbled on a particular
> account belonging to one late Mr. PHILIP HAY, with a balance of
> $14,700,000 and without any hint of a surviving beneficiary.
>  
>  I am seeking your sincere co-operation, so i can present your details as
> the beneficiary to the deposit, so that the funds will be transferred to
> any account(s) you provide, then we can arrange to meet at any location to
> discuss business and share the funds with equal percentages.50%-50%.
>  
>  Please contact me immediately, and let me know if you are going to be
> able to assist me or not, so i can immediately send you more information,
> while i want us to speak as soon as possible, as everything will be done
> under legal conditions to ensure there are no risks involved.
>  
> Regards,
> Charles Cole
> 
> 
> 
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hijacking imagemagick

2007-03-02 Thread Luciano Bello
Hi,
The maintainer of imagemagick, Ryuichi Arafune <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
didn't answer any ping [1]. So, I will hijack this package. I will comaintain 
[2] it with Daniel Kobras <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. A new upload is coming.

luciano

[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2007/01/msg00390.html
[2] 
http://alioth.debian.org/plugins/scmcvs/cvsweb.php/imagemagick/?cvsroot=pkg-gmagick


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