Re: Cloud images on cdimage
On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 11:55:04AM -0200, Tiago Ilieve wrote: > Debian CD Team, > > On 6 February 2016 at 20:12, Tiago Ilieve wrote: > > Steve, > > > > I was looking at the "cdimage" page[1] and noticed that there's no > > cloud images for the platforms we have official releases. Is there a > > way we can publish them there? I'm personally interested in making > > Oracle Compute Cloud images available, like CentOS already does[2], > > but we can pave the way for maintainers of other cloud providers as > > well. > > Looks like Steve is still too much busy. Is there anyone else I can > talk to which can help us to move this forward? Emmanuel is looking into this. We'll prototype and test the build of all the images we want, and then produce patches to the image building scripts that build the current images. -- Antonio Terceiro signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Cloud images on cdimage
Hi Antonio, Emmanuel is looking into this. We'll prototype and test the build of all the images we want, and then produce patches to the image building scripts that build the current images. I can help with some steps for these task (prototyping, building, testing, documentation, whatever). I'm particularly familiar with AWS EC2 AMI and LXC vagrant boxes. Best regards, Zied.
Re: are debugging symbols needed to be included?
On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 03:35:55PM -0300, jor...@openmailbox.org wrote: >are there any policy on including dbg packages in iso images? i dont it >should be expected that users has immediate interest in said packages, unless >im missing something. debian also asks the user permission to send to the >developers which packages one installs, so it can be sorted in the images. > >what i propose is that dbg and non-dbg packages be separated, say, the former >are contained in DVDs 6-13 and the later, contained in DVDs 1-5, similar >division being done to images of different sizes. the main benefit is that >"common" users (non-developers) would only download the first few images, >instead of downloading the entire image set. Hi Jordon, Yup, that's a reasonable suggestion and something that we're mostly already doing. The popcon data (as you suggest) is used in sorting the list of packages for inclusion into our CD/DVD images. Most folks won't have -dbg stuff installed, so they should sort low down. Checking the current list from today's weekly build, there are a few such packages higher up the list such as libc-dbg and valgrind-dbg, but most are quite a way down. AIUI also, the recent code for automatically-added -dbg packages does not put them in the main Debian archive so they won't appear on any CD/DVD images in that case. That's something to maybe look at in the near future... :-) -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "We're the technical experts. We were hired so that management could ignore our recommendations and tell us how to do our jobs." -- Mike Andrews
Re: Cloud images on cdimage
Emmanuel, On 14 February 2016 at 16:28, Emmanuel Kasper wrote: > Hi Tiago > > To the best of my knowledge: > * the debian-cd team only put here images it has itself generated, this > is why the only cloud image is the openstack cloud image. > * also the list here is not meant to be an authorative list of what is > an official Debian. > > The openstack and live images are generated with the > scripts in > http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/debian-cd/pettersson-live.git/ which call > in the background the openstack-debian-images and vmdebootstrap debian > packages. Wow! Thank you very much. This is *exactly* what I was looking for. The readme even states, under "Future stuff": "* use a similar method for other things that need root access, e.g. live cloud images?" > As you you will see, these scripts work by starting a kvm image and > kicking vmdebootstrap / openstack-debian-images inside the VM. > The idea is that nothing runs as root on DSA controlled machines. > > Also as a personal note: > I am currently planning adding the Virtualbox and LXC Vagrant images to > this build process. > The idea so far is to setup a build box mimicking the petterson setup, > and then send patches to pettersson-live.git to add the new cloud builders. On 15 February 2016 at 07:24, Antonio Terceiro wrote: > Emmanuel is looking into this. We'll prototype and test the build of > all the images we want, and then produce patches to the image building > scripts that build the current images. This is nice. I must do the same for bootstrap-vz. We can get into a point where we'll be able to build any image that does not depends on specific provider resources (like the EC2 one). May I participate in any off-list discussions about this, if you guys are having any? :-) -- Tiago "Myhro" Ilieve Blog: https://blog.myhro.info/ GitHub: https://github.com/myhro LinkedIn: https://br.linkedin.com/in/myhro Montes Claros - MG, Brasil
