Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

2012-07-08 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi,

On Sat, 7 Jul 2012 04:47:35 +0100
Steve McIntyre  wrote:
> So, yes - looks like xz will make a difference here for the wheezy
> release, for amd64 at least. It's enough that we'd probably even have
> space for the installation manual and release notes to fit \o/.

 BTW, I'll talk about using xz for whole archive try in this DebConf.
 (now I submit it)

 If you've interested in that, let's discuss :)

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Bug#673576: s390 DVD-1 Release file broken

2012-07-08 Thread Alain Benvéniste
Hi Steve

I will test it as soon as 6.0.6(?) will be available. You make a difference 
between s390 and s390x for the installer but not with the DVD. Does the DVD 
covers the both architecture ?

Thanks
Alain

Envoyé de mon iPhone

Le 8 juil. 2012 à 01:30, Steve McIntyre  a écrit :

> On Sat, Jul 07, 2012 at 11:43:15PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 09:08:33PM +0200, Alain Benvéniste wrote:
>>> Hi
>>> 
>>> Do you know if a resolution is in progress about this issue ?
>> 
>> Hi Alain,
>> 
>> Apologies, I've been busy and unable to look at this for a
>> while. Digging down all the way, it seems that nobody ever set things
>> up properly in debian-cd for the s390 installer udebs to be
>> installed. Next level up, that means that no Packages.gz is generated
>> for the installer udebs -> so not mentioned in the Release file. I'm
>> looking at fixing this now...
> 
> I have a fix committed now, which *hopefully* should do the right
> thing now. Alain, on Monday when the next full weekly build of testing
> happens could you please test the s390 CD to check that the installer
> works for you? If so, then I'll be able to apply the same fix to the
> Squeeze code.
> 
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Re: CD sizes again (and BoF reminder!)

2012-07-08 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi

Stefano Zacchiroli  writes:
>   Ansgar has been experimenting with .deb sizes to make the packages
> needed for a minimal desktop installation fit in the first CD. It looks
> like that's doable by switching to xz compression for the involved
> binaries. Would you grant freeze exceptions for packages that only
> changes that?

Based on Sledge's list of packages for the CD images, I prepared a list
of savings-per-binary:

For GNOME, we can save up to 137 MB changing compression up to
task-gnome-desktop (108 MB by changing only 100 out of 969 binaries).
Or up to 252 MB up to task-laptop (183 MB changing only 100 binaries).

For KDE, it is 136 MB up to task-kde-desktop (106 MB for 100 binaries)
or 197 MB up to task-amharic (150 MB changing only 100 binaries).

Please note that these numbers include packages from the base system.
The real gains should be a bit less.

I'm not sure how much savings we need to fit things on CD1, maybe Sledge
can fill this?  Also I'm a bit unsure why Sledge had a bit higher
numbers on -devel earlier[1].

Please take a look at the files in [1] for details.  They list binary
packages, saving for switching this package (in kB) and the sum of
savings switching all packages so far (in kB).

Ansgar

[1] 


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Bug#673576: s390 DVD-1 Release file broken

2012-07-08 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Jul 08, 2012 at 07:28:46PM +0200, Alain Benvéniste wrote:
>Hi Steve
>
>I will test it as soon as 6.0.6(?) will be available. You make a
>difference between s390 and s390x for the installer but not with the
>DVD. Does the DVD covers the both architecture ?

s390 is in squeeze (6.x)

s390 and s390x are different architectures (different packages,
different CDs, etc.) for wheezy (7.x)

the plan for the release after wheezy (8.x) so far is to drop s390 and
just continue with s390x.

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Re: Bug#666879: s390(x): please add a netboot image

2012-07-08 Thread Philipp Kern
On Tue, Apr 03, 2012 at 03:54:12PM +0200, Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2012, Philipp Kern wrote:
> >am Mon, Apr 02, 2012 at 03:49:48PM +0100 hast du folgendes geschrieben:
> >>OK. We also don't make *any* s390x images at all at the moment, which
> >>I should probably fix. Is d-i working on s390x? If so, I'll add it to
> >>the normal set of daily and weekly images.
> >it's supposed to be working.  If we drop the regular CD images, we could at
> >least offer the netboot stuff in the same place?
> If cd1 is useful, why not build just that for s390[x]? 2x700 meg is
> hardly big today, and I wouldn't expect 70M or 700M be a significant
> difference in download times for anywhere with an s390.

It's rather 10M vs. 700M, but well... what should I say.

Kind regards
Philipp Kern


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Processed: Re: sarge images have syslinux binaries without source

2012-07-08 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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> reopen 497471
Bug #497471 {Done: Colin Tuckley } [cdimage.debian.org] 
sarge images have syslinux binaries without source
Bug reopened
Ignoring request to alter fixed versions of bug #497471 to the same values 
previously set
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Bug#497471: sarge images have syslinux binaries without source

2012-07-08 Thread Daniel Baumann
reopen 497471
thanks

first, please do cc bug submitters if you care for an answer, the bts
does not notify submitters when you write to a bug.

second, reopening the bug: it doesn't matter if debian supports sarge or
not; the images with missing sources are still distributed from
cdimage.debian.org.

and finally, i'm afraid i do not have any copy of 2.04 of syslinux.

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