Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...
Hey folks, Remembering the fun that we had during the Squeeze release with trying to make single-CD installations work well, it's time to consider what we're going to *claim* to support in Wheezy. We've had a history of supporting the following single-CD installations: * Gnome desktop from CD#1 * KDE desktop from "KDE CD#1" * XFCE desktop from "light CD#1" * LXDE desktop from "light CD#1" * base system only from netinst CD At this point, I'm skeptical that either of the first two are going to work acceptably with Wheezy. If that's the case, then we should warn people that they will need to use at least one of: * more CDs * a DVD * a network mirror to get a useful/useable installation. Gnome/KDE people: if you *can* do a single-CD installation for Wheezy, please say so. If not, we'll need to make sure we get documents updated (like the Release Manual), and maybe even consider extra release images (e.g. a 2GB USB stick image). Talk to me, please... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com Into the distance, a ribbon of black Stretched to the point of no turning back -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120512160416.gm24...@einval.com
Bug#672662: cdimage.debian.org: "gnome-screesnaver" starts at livecd boot
Package: cdimage.debian.org Severity: normal The list of services started at boot includes an item named "gnome-screesnaver" right next to the (assumed correct) "gnome-screensaver". Note the transposed letters. I don't yet know if this is only an issue on the livecd or also on the resulting installation. -- System Information: Debian Release: 6.0.4 APT prefers stable-updates APT policy: (500, 'stable-updates'), (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.32-5-486 Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8) Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120512175422.2556.83296.reportbug@localhost
[DRAFT] Debian Installer Wheezy Alpha1 release
Hi folks, I prepared the following draft, based on copy-pastes from: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/ReleaseAnnounce I took the liberty to replace “Wheezy” with “7.0” to match the previous announce, which mentioned “6.0”. I have no strong (or bad) feeling about this, just wanted to be consistent with prior art by default. Please let me know of any issues with it, stuff that would be missing etc. I guess you could just mention anything by mail, also fixing the wiki. I guess/hope there won't be too many changes to merge, so that shouldn't be too painful. Steve/debian-cd: As mentioned on IRC basic tests made some bugs pop up, but nothing that should block alpha1 as far as I can tell. So please publish the images. The draft follows. Mraw, KiBi. From: Cyril Brulebois To: debian-devel-annou...@lists.debian.org Cc: debian-b...@lists.debian.org Subject: Debian Installer 7.0 Alpha1 release Organization: Debian The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the first alpha release of the installer for Debian Wheezy. Improvements in this release of the installer = Network configuration - * Add WPA support to installer (#327309). * Improvements in link detection and DHCP configuration, which should improve reliability for systems with flaky network cards (#496647, #414117, #606515). * Release DHCP lease at the end of the install, to work around problems with non-RFC compliant DHCP servers (#610553). * The requirements for hostnames have been clarified, and the parser tightened up to avoid letting through some really dodgy names (#399071). * Added Spanning Tree Protocol (STP) support. Linux Specific -- * Kernel version has been updated to 3.2.16. * Default filesystem changed to Ext4. * Allow btrfs /boot partition (grub2 and lilo). * Add support for Network Block Devices (NBD). GNU/kFreeBSD Specific - * Kernel updated to version 8.3. * Detect LVM devices. Operating system probing * Add detection for Windows 8, support for BSD systems, MeeGo, Linux From Scratch and Haiku on BeFS partitions. * Improve Windows and MS-DOS detection. * Fix Gentoo detection on OS probing. Win32-loader * Add PXE functionality (#607417). USB stick installs -- * Add choice of ISO image to use when multiple images are found on the installation medium (#564441). This includes a full rewrite of the state machine in the iso-scan component. This work was contributed by Frans Pop and Frédéric Boiteux. Translations * New language supported: Uyghur. Behavioral changes in this release == * Make sure to put "hda" into the CoLo config file instead of "sda" since CoLo only knows about the former (#614839). * Remove 5 second sleeps when debootstrap finds additional required dependencies. d-i just got that much faster. * Use SHA checksums. * Re-enable ZFS on kfreebsd-i386. * Allow stripped ZFS for root filesystem. * Mirror and RAID-Z support on ZFS filesystems. * Redesign ZFS pool management, new features include: - Support for pools with multiple physical devices. - Support for multiple filesystems within a ZFS pool. - Support for legacy filesystems using ZFS volumes (ZVOL). - Arbitrary names for ZFS pools, filesystems and ZVOLs. * Switch espeakup language around language selection (#630477). Hardware support changes * Support AMD CPU family 20 (LP: #676838). * Add support for: - Buffalo Linkstation LiveV3 (LS-CHL) (#612167). - Buffalo Linkstation Mini (LS-WSGL). - Toshiba AC100. - MX53 LOCO board. - OMAP4 Pandora. - armhf architecture. - Genesi Efika MX nettops and smarttops (#612376). * Blacklist snd-aoa to allow snd-powermac to work. * Install mmc-modules if no disk is found, since some devices may not have hard drives, but SD slots instead (#593108). * Increase the number of attempts to detect new disk devices on some SCSI subsystems with long driver/disk initialization time (#611314). * Include ahci module for the QNAP TS-419P+ (#613497). * Add niu network driver for sparc, needed by T2+ Sparc systems (#608516). * Recognize /dev/duart* as a serial console. Known issues in this release * kFreeBSD installer images don't work (kernel panic) (#671884). * GRUB installation fails with RAID+LVM (#662086). * Linux kernel installation fails on old x86 processors (earlier than 686, or 686 without PAE) (#672611). * mirror list might be slightly outdated; choose-mirror will be updated in a later release. * missing fonts for Burmese, Tibetan, Dzongkha and Sinhala languages (#672635). See the errata[2] for details and a full list of known issues. Not yet known issues in thi
Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...
Steve McIntyre writes: > At this point, I'm skeptical that either of the first two are going to > work acceptably with Wheezy. If that's the case, then we should warn > people that they will need to use at least one of: I agree. I tried installing debian gnome desktop from CD1 during last debconf and ended up getting a system that does not have network manager or support for suspend: http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2011/08/msg00172.html Since Debian is universal I can understand that we can't fit the desktop to CD1 but I think we should clearly state that so that users are not surprised by the crippled system they get after the installation is finished. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/84wr4h5gq0@sauna.l.org
Re: [DRAFT] Debian Installer Wheezy Alpha1 release
Thank you Cyril and everyone. In terms of presentation, this looks fine to me. In terms of content, I added all issues from DebianInstaller/Today which I'm confident affect alpha1 (that is, 1 issue). On 2012-05-12 15:50, Cyril Brulebois wrote: Hi folks, I prepared the following draft, based on copy-pastes from: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/ReleaseAnnounce I took the liberty to replace “Wheezy” with “7.0” to match the previous announce, which mentioned “6.0”. I have no strong (or bad) feeling about this, just wanted to be consistent with prior art by default. Please let me know of any issues with it, stuff that would be missing etc. I guess you could just mention anything by mail, also fixing the wiki. I guess/hope there won't be too many changes to merge, so that shouldn't be too painful. Steve/debian-cd: As mentioned on IRC basic tests made some bugs pop up, but nothing that should block alpha1 as far as I can tell. So please publish the images. The draft follows. Mraw, KiBi. From: Cyril Brulebois To: debian-devel-annou...@lists.debian.org Cc: debian-b...@lists.debian.org Subject: Debian Installer 7.0 Alpha1 release Organization: Debian The Debian Installer team[1] is pleased to announce the first alpha release of the installer for Debian Wheezy. Improvements in this release of the installer = Network configuration - * Add WPA support to installer (#327309). * Improvements in link detection and DHCP configuration, which should improve reliability for systems with flaky network cards (#496647, #414117, #606515). * Release DHCP lease at the end of the install, to work around problems with non-RFC compliant DHCP servers (#610553). * The requirements for hostnames have been clarified, and the parser tightened up to avoid letting through some really dodgy names (#399071). * Added Spanning Tree Protocol (STP) support. Linux Specific -- * Kernel version has been updated to 3.2.16. * Default filesystem changed to Ext4. * Allow btrfs /boot partition (grub2 and lilo). * Add support for Network Block Devices (NBD). GNU/kFreeBSD Specific - * Kernel updated to version 8.3. * Detect LVM devices. Operating system probing * Add detection for Windows 8, support for BSD systems, MeeGo, Linux From Scratch and Haiku on BeFS partitions. * Improve Windows and MS-DOS detection. * Fix Gentoo detection on OS probing. Win32-loader * Add PXE functionality (#607417). USB stick installs -- * Add choice of ISO image to use when multiple images are found on the installation medium (#564441). This includes a full rewrite of the state machine in the iso-scan component. This work was contributed by Frans Pop and Frédéric Boiteux. Translations * New language supported: Uyghur. Behavioral changes in this release == * Make sure to put "hda" into the CoLo config file instead of "sda" since CoLo only knows about the former (#614839). * Remove 5 second sleeps when debootstrap finds additional required dependencies. d-i just got that much faster. * Use SHA checksums. * Re-enable ZFS on kfreebsd-i386. * Allow stripped ZFS for root filesystem. * Mirror and RAID-Z support on ZFS filesystems. * Redesign ZFS pool management, new features include: - Support for pools with multiple physical devices. - Support for multiple filesystems within a ZFS pool. - Support for legacy filesystems using ZFS volumes (ZVOL). - Arbitrary names for ZFS pools, filesystems and ZVOLs. * Switch espeakup language around language selection (#630477). Hardware support changes * Support AMD CPU family 20 (LP: #676838). * Add support for: - Buffalo Linkstation LiveV3 (LS-CHL) (#612167). - Buffalo Linkstation Mini (LS-WSGL). - Toshiba AC100. - MX53 LOCO board. - OMAP4 Pandora. - armhf architecture. - Genesi Efika MX nettops and smarttops (#612376). * Blacklist snd-aoa to allow snd-powermac to work. * Install mmc-modules if no disk is found, since some devices may not have hard drives, but SD slots instead (#593108). * Increase the number of attempts to detect new disk devices on some SCSI subsystems with long driver/disk initialization time (#611314). * Include ahci module for the QNAP TS-419P+ (#613497). * Add niu network driver for sparc, needed by T2+ Sparc systems (#608516). * Recognize /dev/duart* as a serial console. Known issues in this release * kFreeBSD installer images don't work (kernel panic) (#671884). * GRUB installation fails with RAID+LVM (#662086). * Linux kernel installation fails on old x86 processors (earlier
Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...
On Sat, 12 May 2012 17:04:16 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: Hey folks, Remembering the fun that we had during the Squeeze release with trying to make single-CD installations work well, it's time to consider what we're going to *claim* to support in Wheezy. We've had a history of supporting the following single-CD installations: * Gnome desktop from CD#1 * KDE desktop from "KDE CD#1" * XFCE desktop from "light CD#1" * LXDE desktop from "light CD#1" * base system only from netinst CD At this point, I'm skeptical that either of the first two are going to work acceptably with Wheezy. If that's the case, then we should warn people that they will need to use at least one of: * more CDs * a DVD * a network mirror to get a useful/useable installation. Gnome/KDE people: if you *can* do a single-CD installation for Wheezy, please say so. If not, we'll need to make sure we get documents updated (like the Release Manual), and maybe even consider extra release images (e.g. a 2GB USB stick image). Talk to me, please... -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. st...@einval.com Into the distance, a ribbon of black Stretched to the point of no turning back If you decide to give up on Gnome and KDE from a single CD, PLEASE keep the XFCE/LXDE "CD#1 light". Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/9c9ddd14d6539abbeff9dd98f86cd...@pobox.com
Re: [DRAFT] Debian Installer Wheezy Alpha1 release
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 09:50:44PM +0200, Cyril Brulebois wrote: >Hi folks, > >I prepared the following draft, based on copy-pastes from: > http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/ReleaseAnnounce > >I took the liberty to replace “Wheezy” with “7.0” to match the previous >announce, which mentioned “6.0”. I have no strong (or bad) feeling about >this, just wanted to be consistent with prior art by default. > >Please let me know of any issues with it, stuff that would be missing >etc. I guess you could just mention anything by mail, also fixing the >wiki. I guess/hope there won't be too many changes to merge, so that >shouldn't be too painful. > >Steve/debian-cd: As mentioned on IRC basic tests made some bugs pop up, >but nothing that should block alpha1 as far as I can tell. So please >publish the images. Images in place at http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/wheezy_di_alpha1/ now. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.st...@einval.com "I suspect most samba developers are already technically insane... Of course, since many of them are Australians, you can't tell." -- Linus Torvalds -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120512224946.gq24...@einval.com
Re: Wheezy release: CDs are not big enough any more...
On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 17:04:16 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: > Remembering the fun that we had during the Squeeze release with trying > to make single-CD installations work well, it's time to consider what > we're going to *claim* to support in Wheezy. We've had a history of > supporting the following single-CD installations: Yes, I'd not see any problem from my side with switching the default dpkg-deb compression to xz for 1.16.4, if people are fine with that (as long as it's not conditional). Last time there were some concerns about slow architectures or low memory systems, but the default preset is quite conservative so I don't really see the issue. And if specific packages are problematic they can always decide to use another compression type or level. Also if udeb:s are going to be using xz then it makes even more sense to use it for everything. thanks, guillem -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-cd-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120513000625.ga6...@gaara.hadrons.org
