Re: Meeting(s) at FOSDEM

2009-02-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Otavio ;-)

On Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> I won't be at FOSDEM :(

You certainly missed a lot, but you didnt miss that meeting as it didnt take 
place. (TTBOMK)

I planned to attend as I really really would like to see Debian Edu CDs build 
as part of the normal Debian CD sets for squeeze...

(Currently we do this on our own machine using a patched version of 
debian-cd.)


regards,
Holger


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Draft for lenny release announcement

2009-02-09 Thread Alexander Reichle-Schmehl
[ Sorry for the cross post; just trying to make sure everyone is aware of
  the current state ]


Hi!

Attached you'll find the current draft of the announcement for the lenny
release. Based upon the announcement for the last release it's far from
ready :(

Especially the second and third paragraphs need a better replacement; maybe
the d-i or cd folks have a good idea about that?

I tried my best to make the draft based on
http://wiki.debian.org/NewInLenny and own experience but I'm sure I missed
important thing.  So please feel free to point out really important
changes, which should be mentioned in the announcement.


About the timeline... Hopefully we'll release next Saturday... So I would
like to see the content of the announcement finished by Wednesday and use
the remaining time for reviewing and translating the announcement.
-l10n-english and -i18n will that be enough time for you?

I know that ideally translators would work on a frozen version of the
announcement, but I fear that won't fit into the remaining time.


The most current version may be found in a private subversion repository
(to avoid conflicts when using the wiki).  You can get the most recent
version from
http://svn.schmehl.info/svn/debian-publicity/20090214-lenny-release/lenny-announcement.en.wml
; translators might later be interested in
http://svn.schmehl.info/websvn/listing.php?repname=debian-publicity&path=%2F20090214-lenny-release%2F&rev=0&sc=0
to track changes in the document.


Best regards,
  Alexander

PS: I set reply-to to the publicity list, but feel free to follow up to an
other list when discussing specific points (like translations); I'll try to
follow the discussion on all lists.
Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 released
2009-02-14
#use wml::debian::news

The Debian Project is pleased to announce the official release of
Debian GNU/Linux version 5.0, codenamed etch, after 22 months of
constant development.  Debian GNU/Linux is a free operating system which
supports a total of eleven processor architectures and includes the KDE,
GNOME Xfce and lxde desktop environments.  It also features cryptographic
software and compatibility with the FHS v2.3 and software developed for
version 3.2 of the LSB.




Also beginning with Debian GNU/Linux 4.0, the package management system
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too.

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Generation of Blends CD Image [was Re: Meeting(s) at FOSDEM

2009-02-09 Thread Otavio Salvador
Holger Levsen  writes:

> Hi Otavio ;-)
>
> On Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote:
>> I won't be at FOSDEM :(
>
> You certainly missed a lot, but you didnt miss that meeting as it didnt take 
> place. (TTBOMK)
  ^^ Mind to translate it? :-)

> I planned to attend as I really really would like to see Debian Edu CDs build 
> as part of the normal Debian CD sets for squeeze...

Yes; we do need an official way of doing that for all blends.

BrDesktop also requires it. (I've added Tiago to this thread and
droped debian-kernel, debian-boot and ftpmaster, feel free to readd
any of them if you think it is required)

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Re: Generation of Blends CD Image [was Re: Meeting(s) at FOSDEM

2009-02-09 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi,

On Montag, 9. Februar 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote:
> > You certainly missed a lot, but you didnt miss that meeting as it didnt
> > take place. (TTBOMK)
>
>   ^^ Mind to translate it? :-)

$ wtf ttbomk
TTBOMK: to the best of my knowledge

:)

> > I planned to attend as I really really would like to see Debian Edu CDs
> > build as part of the normal Debian CD sets for squeeze...
> Yes; we do need an official way of doing that for all blends.

I agree if you mean Pure Blends. All other blends cannot be build only from 
Debian sources.

> BrDesktop also requires it. 

Is that 100% Debian?

> (I've added Tiago to this thread and 
> droped debian-kernel, debian-boot and ftpmaster, feel free to readd
> any of them if you think it is required)

I also dropped -admin now. Please cc: my as I'm not subscribed to debian...@.


regards,
Holger


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Re: Meeting(s) at FOSDEM

2009-02-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 10:35:40AM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
>Hi Otavio ;-)
>
>On Donnerstag, 5. Februar 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote:
>> I won't be at FOSDEM :(
>
>You certainly missed a lot, but you didnt miss that meeting as it didnt take 
>place. (TTBOMK)

Sorry, it did. Unfortunately at a really bad time for you: just as the
first talk was starting in the Debian devroom. We touched on quite a
number of topics, and Mark Hymers was taking notes that I'm hoping he
can post somewhere soon.

The main focus of the meeting was how d-i builds and releases work,
and I think we made quite some progress on that. There are a few
changes that we think should be made that will help a great deal in
building, publishing and releasing d-i. I'm not posting any of the
details here just yet because my memory fails me... :-)

>I planned to attend as I really really would like to see Debian Edu CDs build 
>as part of the normal Debian CD sets for squeeze...

Sure, and I expect that should be easy. We've spoken about it in the
past and things should be even simpler now. Ronny is already joining
in on #debian-cd and talking about useful patches from debian-edu
now. I don't expect any problems.

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Re: Generation of Blends CD Image [was Re: Meeting(s) at FOSDEM

2009-02-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 01:24:39PM -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote:
>Holger Levsen  writes:
>
>> I planned to attend as I really really would like to see Debian Edu CDs 
>> build 
>> as part of the normal Debian CD sets for squeeze...
>
>Yes; we do need an official way of doing that for all blends.
>
>BrDesktop also requires it. (I've added Tiago to this thread and
>droped debian-kernel, debian-boot and ftpmaster, feel free to readd
>any of them if you think it is required)

Some of the changes that we've made in debian-cd recently should also
make it easier to support extra builds of custom images. Things like
custom tasks, excludes, includes should now be simple. But let's talk
about it a little more after lenny. :-)

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Re: Meeting(s) at FOSDEM

2009-02-09 Thread Otavio Salvador
Steve McIntyre  writes:

<...>
> The main focus of the meeting was how d-i builds and releases work,
> and I think we made quite some progress on that. There are a few
> changes that we think should be made that will help a great deal in
> building, publishing and releasing d-i. I'm not posting any of the
> details here just yet because my memory fails me... :-)
<...>

Please let me know those details as soon as possible :-)

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Re: Generation of Blends CD Image

2009-02-09 Thread Otavio Salvador
Holger Levsen  writes:

> Hi,
>
> On Montag, 9. Februar 2009, Otavio Salvador wrote:
>> > You certainly missed a lot, but you didnt miss that meeting as it didnt
>> > take place. (TTBOMK)
>>
>>   ^^ Mind to translate it? :-)
>
> $ wtf ttbomk
> TTBOMK: to the best of my knowledge

I didn't know about wtf tool :-) Living and learning :-)

>> > I planned to attend as I really really would like to see Debian Edu CDs
>> > build as part of the normal Debian CD sets for squeeze...
>> Yes; we do need an official way of doing that for all blends.
>
> I agree if you mean Pure Blends. All other blends cannot be build only from 
> Debian sources.

Sure; I meant.

>> BrDesktop also requires it. 
>
> Is that 100% Debian?

Yes; it is suppose to be however I've been not too involved into the
project right now mostly due my involvement at d-i and company. Tiago
is the best person to confirm it.

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Re: Meeting(s) at FOSDEM

2009-02-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 06:30:00PM -0200, Otavio Salvador wrote:
>Steve McIntyre  writes:
>
><...>
>> The main focus of the meeting was how d-i builds and releases work,
>> and I think we made quite some progress on that. There are a few
>> changes that we think should be made that will help a great deal in
>> building, publishing and releasing d-i. I'm not posting any of the
>> details here just yet because my memory fails me... :-)
><...>
>
>Please let me know those details as soon as possible :-)

Oh, of course. :-) My beer-addled memory is not as reliable as it used
to be, so I'm hoping that Mark's notes are more reliable.

mhy: ping!

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Bug#514654: debian-cd: [squeeze] include kbd on first CD rather than console-tools

2009-02-09 Thread Colin Watson
Package: debian-cd
Severity: wishlist

For squeeze, we'll be changing d-i to install kbd rather than
console-tools. Please make sure that kbd ends up on the first CD and
that console-tools doesn't.

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Bug#514654: debian-cd: [squeeze] include kbd on first CD rather than console-tools

2009-02-09 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Mon, Feb 09, 2009 at 09:01:54PM +, Colin Watson wrote:
>Package: debian-cd
>Severity: wishlist
>
>For squeeze, we'll be changing d-i to install kbd rather than
>console-tools. Please make sure that kbd ends up on the first CD and
>that console-tools doesn't.

Sure, no problem.

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Incorrect information for Linux Emporium Vendors listing

2009-02-09 Thread Martin Meredith
Just noticed that the Linux Emporium listing @

http://debian.org/CD/vendors/#uk

Says that they sell CDs.

They currently offer only DVDs, for i386, ia64, amd64 and powerpc architectures

Please CC: me in any reply, as I am not subscribed to the list


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