Re: non-free jigdo dvd templates
Jan Kesten wrote: Bernhard Ott wrote: Obviously I didn't find any links and I can't use netinstall, so any help would be appreciated, It put some here: debian.dafuer.de - please drop me a line if there are problems :-) Cheers, Jan Two years later... Two years later, I'm picking up this thread to ask about the non-free repository on DVD(s). My laptop doesn't have internet access, so I can't use the on-line repositories. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: too many CD ISOs
Raphael Hertzog wrote: Hi, On Tue, 17 Apr 2007, Frans Pop wrote: On Tuesday 17 April 2007 19:42, Michael Loftis wrote: It's becoming prohibitively expensive for mirrors to maintain a debian mirror because of the huge amount of storage required by all of the CD/DVD images. This has been brought up before by mirror maintainers. IMH(umble)O Jigdo should be pushed much much harder since it can generate the entire CD or DVD set for a given arch off a normal repo pool, and those have to be kept around anyway. That is an idea. Maybe only publish the lower .iso's (exactly how many would need to be determined) but keep all jigdo's around. CD vendors can probably be expected to be able to generate iso's using jigdo. While I sympathize with the idea, please keep in mind that some big mirrors prefer that users download images via ISO than via jigdo. So the most popular images should really be available as ISO. Reason: it's much more effective for them when users download an ISO than when they use jigdo. For example the ftp.fr.debian.org admin explained me that they were limited by the disk seek and not by the bandwith used by the users. Cheers, Jidgo only is a bad idea. The format is largely unknown outside geek-ville. Many of you may think that jidgo is cool, but bittorrent won. Get over it and stop making things awkward with a download format used almost exclusively for linux distributions. There are lots of bittorrent clients on all operating systems, and lots of applications for the almost identical, better named technology -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: non-free jigdo dvd templates
On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 12:12:09PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >Jan Kesten wrote: >>Bernhard Ott wrote: >> >>>Obviously I didn't find any links and I can't use netinstall, so any >>>help would be appreciated, >> >>It put some here: debian.dafuer.de - please drop me a line if there are >>problems :-) >> >>Cheers, >>Jan > >Two years later... > >Two years later, I'm picking up this thread to ask about the non-free >repository on DVD(s). > >My laptop doesn't have internet access, so I can't use the on-line >repositories. Then you're out of luck - we don't make CD or DVD images of non-free. -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] "...In the UNIX world, people tend to interpret `non-technical user' as meaning someone who's only ever written one device driver." -- Daniel Pead -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: too many CD ISOs
On 4/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jidgo only is a bad idea. The format is largely unknown outside geek-ville. Many of you may think that jidgo is cool, but bittorrent won. Get over it and stop making things awkward with a download format used almost exclusively for linux distributions. There are lots of bittorrent clients on all operating systems, and lots of applications for the almost identical, better named technology Jigdo and bittorrent don't serve the same purpose. The former is a means of constructing an ISO image from a regular Debian package repository/mirror; the latter is a means of efficiently disseminating ISO images that have already been built. Cheers, -- Andrew Saunders -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: too many CD ISOs
On Thu, 26 Apr 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jidgo only is a bad idea. The format is largely unknown outside geek-ville. Many of you may think that jidgo is cool, but bittorrent won. Get over it and stop making things awkward with a download format used almost exclusively for linux distributions. There are lots of bittorrent clients on all operating systems, and lots of applications for the almost identical, better named technology Bittorrent doesn't really solve anything compared to serving ISOs over http, except for the inital rush of the most popular files. /Mattias Wadenstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: too many CD ISOs
On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 02:02:19PM +0200, Mattias Wadenstein wrote: > Bittorrent doesn't really solve anything compared to serving ISOs > over http, except for the inital rush of the most popular files. I agree (naturally;-) In contrast to bt, jigdo is designed for the case that lots of HTTP/FTP servers around the world already hold the data, it just needs to be puzzled together in the right way. What's really missing is a GUI, applet, browser extension or similar to make the jigdo functionality available to a larger user audience. Unfortunately, my jigdo GUI efforts got stuck at the "80% done" level. I considered proposing work on it for the Google SoC, but like many things these days, it never happened due to me being too busy. :-/ Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: 888354F7 | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 08A9 7B7D 3D13 3EF2 3D25 D157 79E6 F6DC 8883 54F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Jigdo (was Re: too many CD ISOs)
Hi Richard, On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 02:29:47PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote: > >In contrast to bt, jigdo is designed for the case that lots of HTTP/FTP >servers around the world already hold the data, it just needs to be puzzled >together in the right way. /me promises to re-start jigdoofus soon. One of the original ideas behind that was to allow mirrors to server as bt seeds using jigdo as a backend. Still needs some more work... >What's really missing is a GUI, applet, browser extension or similar to >make the jigdo functionality available to a larger user audience. >Unfortunately, my jigdo GUI efforts got stuck at the "80% done" level. I >considered proposing work on it for the Google SoC, but like many things >these days, it never happened due to me being too busy. :-/ It happens to all of us... :-) There's also a couple more changes/updates that I'd like to make in/around jigdo soon-ish: * Move over to using bzip2 rather than gzip for our template files. That should be simple enough now that all the clients in stable will support bzip2, I assume. * Start using sha1/256 internally as well as/instead of md5sum, or at least for the whole-image checksums. Md5sum is looking weak these days. Thoughts? -- Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK.[EMAIL PROTECTED] "I've only once written 'SQL is my bitch' in a comment. But that code is in use on a military site..." -- Simon Booth -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: non-free jigdo dvd templates
Steve McIntyre wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 12:12:09PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Kesten wrote: Bernhard Ott wrote: Obviously I didn't find any links and I can't use netinstall, so any help would be appreciated, It put some here: debian.dafuer.de - please drop me a line if there are problems :-) Cheers, Jan Two years later... Two years later, I'm picking up this thread to ask about the non-free repository on DVD(s). My laptop doesn't have internet access, so I can't use the on-line repositories. Then you're out of luck - we don't make CD or DVD images of non-free. I see. In that case, I shall ftp download the entire non-free repository and make my own DVDs ^_^ I expect I'll be back asking how ;-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: non-free jigdo dvd templates
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve McIntyre wrote: On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 12:12:09PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Kesten wrote: Bernhard Ott wrote: Obviously I didn't find any links and I can't use netinstall, so any help would be appreciated, It put some here: debian.dafuer.de - please drop me a line if there are problems :-) Cheers, Jan Two years later... Two years later, I'm picking up this thread to ask about the non-free repository on DVD(s). My laptop doesn't have internet access, so I can't use the on-line repositories. Then you're out of luck - we don't make CD or DVD images of non-free. I see. In that case, I shall ftp download the entire non-free repository and make my own DVDs ^_^ I expect I'll be back asking how ;-) And it would seem that jigdo does exactly that for me! Excellent -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: too many CD ISOs
Andrew Saunders wrote: On 4/26/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Jidgo only is a bad idea. The format is largely unknown outside geek-ville. Many of you may think that jidgo is cool, but bittorrent won. Get over it and stop making things awkward with a download format used almost exclusively for linux distributions. There are lots of bittorrent clients on all operating systems, and lots of applications for the almost identical, better named technology Jigdo and bittorrent don't serve the same purpose. The former is a means of constructing an ISO image from a regular Debian package repository/mirror; the latter is a means of efficiently disseminating ISO images that have already been built. Cheers, Thanks Andrew. Nicely explained. Off I go to research... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
artwork updated and domain changed
I have redesigned my artwork for the Debian DVDs/CDs. There are now different covers for all the CDs/DVDs (arch-independent). It was a lot of work. Please take a look. The artwork will now be hosted at http://www.ulrich-hansen.de/etch For your site (http://www.debian.org/CD/artwork/) it would be necessary to change my old domainname which was "ulihansen.kicks-ass.net" to the one above. You may also want to use the new covers as new previews on your page. So I prepared three png-pictures of the right size: http://www.ulrich-hansen.de/etch/debian-multiarch-DVD-preview-100px.png which should link to "debian-multiarch-DVD.png" in the same folder. http://www.ulrich-hansen.de/etch/debian-CD1-preview-100px.png which should link to "debian-CD1.png". http://www.ulrich-hansen.de/etch/debian-CD-netinst-preview-100px.png which should link to "debian-CD-netinst.png". I hope you enjoy the graphics (and the different quotes on them). Thanks again! Ulrich Hansen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
