Re: broken link to cdrecord on win

2007-04-11 Thread Richard Atterer
Hello,

On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 12:28:05PM +1000, Carlos wrote:
> I just noticed that the link to cdrecord on
> http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#dvd is not working.
> 
> I found this alternative one, but I am not sure if it is the best one:
> 
> http://smithii.com/cdrtools

IMHO we should consider removing references to cdrtools in favour of wodim, 
Debian's fork of the software. Also, I don't think a lot of people will use 
the command-line cdrecord under Windows/Mac OS, so I'll also completely 
remove these references unless someone screams now. :)

Cheers,

  Richard

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Re: followup: jigdo template mdsum mismatch??

2007-04-11 Thread Richard Atterer
On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 05:37:22PM -0300, Carlos Carvalho wrote:
> This is a bug in jigdo-file, for not ignoring the option when used with a 
> md5sum command, since the man page says "All options are silently ignored 
> if they are not applicable to the current command."

I agree - I'll file a bug report so I don't forget about this.

  Richard

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Re: missing files in .jigdo are not missing?

2007-04-11 Thread Richard Atterer
On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 07:16:18PM -0300, Carlos Carvalho wrote:
> I'm still trying to create .iso using jigdo-mirror. Removing
> --no-check-files from the default made it proceed, however some CDs
> and DVDs don't build because it complains about missing files.
> 
> How can one see which files are missing? I took the list from the
> jigdo of one of the CDs that doesn't build, because it says there's
> one missing, and verified that all do exist in the specified location.

You can output a list of missing files using the "jigdo-file print-missing" 
command.

Since no-one else appears to have problems, it seems that the .jigdo file 
is OK. I'm not sure what the problem at your side could be. jigdo-file will 
calculate the md5sum of files before copying them to the image, so even if 
the file is there and its name appears to be correct, it will not be copied 
over if its content doesn't match.

Cheers,

  Richard

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Re: Bug#418688: d-i: Points to "Sarge" in sources.list

2007-04-11 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, Frans Pop wrote:

> On Wednesday 11 April 2007 14:01, Luis Matos wrote:
> > Why the installer does not has only the version-codename in the
> > sources.list?
> 
> The Etch installer _does_ only put code names in the sources.list.

I'm very glad to hear that. I wonder, while we are at it, why don't we
remove all the symlinks (save the "stable" one) in the dists directory
on install CDs:

/cdrom/dists# ls -l
total 2
dr-xr-xr-x 4 root root 2048 2007-04-07 13:29 etch
lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root4 2007-04-07 13:29 frozen -> etch
lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root4 2007-04-07 13:29 stable -> etch
lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root4 2007-04-07 13:29 testing -> etch
lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root4 2007-04-07 13:29 unstable -> etch

Would you help me to convince debian-cd maintainers that those
symlinks should be removed? Last time I tried I was told they were
there "just in case", but I fail to see how we could need a "frozen"
symlink at all.


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Re: Bug#418688: d-i: Points to "Sarge" in sources.list

2007-04-11 Thread Frans Pop
On Wednesday 11 April 2007 13:37, Santiago Vila wrote:
> /cdrom/dists# ls -l
> total 2
> dr-xr-xr-x 4 root root 2048 2007-04-07 13:29 etch
> lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root4 2007-04-07 13:29 frozen -> etch
> lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root4 2007-04-07 13:29 stable -> etch
> lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root4 2007-04-07 13:29 testing -> etch
> lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root4 2007-04-07 13:29 unstable -> etch
>
> Would you help me to convince debian-cd maintainers that those
> symlinks should be removed? Last time I tried I was told they were
> there "just in case", but I fail to see how we could need a "frozen"
> symlink at all.

The installer _does_ still need the suite links even if we don't put them 
in the sources.list anymore.
I also don't know what frozen does there though, but I would guess that 
was used during the Sarge release process.


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Re: Bug#418688: d-i: Points to "Sarge" in sources.list

2007-04-11 Thread Santiago Vila
On Wed, 11 Apr 2007, Frans Pop wrote:

> On Wednesday 11 April 2007 13:37, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > /cdrom/dists# ls -l
> > total 2
> > dr-xr-xr-x 4 root root 2048 2007-04-07 13:29 etch
> > lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root4 2007-04-07 13:29 frozen -> etch
> > lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root4 2007-04-07 13:29 stable -> etch
> > lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root4 2007-04-07 13:29 testing -> etch
> > lr-xr-xr-x 1 root root4 2007-04-07 13:29 unstable -> etch
> >
> > Would you help me to convince debian-cd maintainers that those
> > symlinks should be removed? Last time I tried I was told they were
> > there "just in case", but I fail to see how we could need a "frozen"
> > symlink at all.
> 
> The installer _does_ still need the suite links even if we don't put them 
> in the sources.list anymore.

Hmm, *all* of them? Would "stable" not be enough? Would not we have a bug
somewhere if the installer failed when only the stable -> etch symlink
exists?

> I also don't know what frozen does there though, but I would guess that 
> was used during the Sarge release process.

sarge was already "testing" before it was released, not "frozen".


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Re: missing files in .jigdo are not missing?

2007-04-11 Thread Carlos Carvalho
Richard Atterer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 11 April 2007 12:24:
 >On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 07:16:18PM -0300, Carlos Carvalho wrote:
 >> I'm still trying to create .iso using jigdo-mirror. Removing
 >> --no-check-files from the default made it proceed, however some CDs
 >> and DVDs don't build because it complains about missing files.
 >> 
 >> How can one see which files are missing? I took the list from the
 >> jigdo of one of the CDs that doesn't build, because it says there's
 >> one missing, and verified that all do exist in the specified location.
 >
 >You can output a list of missing files using the "jigdo-file print-missing" 
 >command.

After posting I discovered it appears in the logs. Here's an example
for the source.dvd, I can send you the complete list if necessary:

Found 5935 of the 5943 files required by the template
Copied input files to temporary file `image.tmp' - repeat command and supply mor
e files to continue
2007-04-09 20:25:38: 8 parts still missing from image
20:25:41 URL:http://us.cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/snapshot/Debian/pool/main/a/ar
abtex/arabtex_3.11.orig.tar.gz [582121/582121] -> "arabtex_3.11.orig.tar.gz" [1]
20:25:46 URL:http://us.cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/snapshot/Debian/pool/main/g/gs
oap/gsoap_2.7.6d.orig.tar.gz [5866490/5866490] -> "gsoap_2.7.6d.orig.tar.gz" [1]
20:26:01 URL:http://us.cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/snapshot/Debian/pool/main/b/bo
s/bos_1.1.orig.tar.gz [20395114/20395114] -> "bos_1.1.orig.tar.gz" [1]
20:26:46 URL:http://us.cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/snapshot/Debian/pool/main/c/cm
-super/cm-super_0.3.3.orig.tar.gz [67064131/67064131] -> "cm-super_0.3.3.orig.ta
r.gz" [1]
20:26:57 URL:http://us.cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/snapshot/Debian/pool/main/b/bo
ost/boost_1.33.1.orig.tar.gz [14358143/14358143] -> "boost_1.33.1.orig.tar.gz" [
1]
20:26:57 URL:http://us.cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/snapshot/Debian/pool/main/a/ar
chzoom/archzoom_0.5.1-1.diff.gz [108481/108481] -> "archzoom_0.5.1-1.diff.gz" [1
]
20:28:00 URL:http://us.cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/snapshot/Debian/pool/main/b/be
neath-a-steel-sky/beneath-a-steel-sky_0.0372.orig.tar.gz [69379952/69379952] -> 
"beneath-a-steel-sky_0.0372.orig.tar.gz" [1]
20:28:01 URL:http://us.cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/snapshot/Debian/pool/main/b/ba
ycomepp/baycomepp_0.10.orig.tar.gz [474619/474619] -> "baycomepp_0.10.orig.tar.g
z"

 >Since no-one else appears to have problems, it seems that the .jigdo file 
 >is OK. I'm not sure what the problem at your side could be.

Maybe it's just that no-one *notices* it. At first I put maxMissing=0,
on the assumption that we're a full mirror and so we should have
everything. However this breaks already for the first architecture,
because 2 out of 3 dvds and some cds don't complete for alpha.

 >jigdo-file will calculate the md5sum of files before copying them to
 >the image, so even if the file is there and its name appears to be
 >correct, it will not be copied over if its content doesn't match.

I checked some of the filenames and size (not checksums) and what
comes from us.cdimage matches with what we have. Also, during the
build process at least two full updates of our mirror were done, so
it's not a problem of us being behind the latest version. Therefore,
if they differ there's a problem. We have testing and unstable also,
so there should be nothing that us.cdimage uses that we don't have.

I agree that the problem may not be in jigdo but in the iso image
itself using something different. How can we investigate the issue?


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Re: missing files in .jigdo are not missing?

2007-04-11 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 11:09:14AM -0300, Carlos Carvalho wrote:
>Richard Atterer ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 11 April 2007 12:24:
> >On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 07:16:18PM -0300, Carlos Carvalho wrote:
> >> I'm still trying to create .iso using jigdo-mirror. Removing
> >> --no-check-files from the default made it proceed, however some CDs
> >> and DVDs don't build because it complains about missing files.
> >> 
> >> How can one see which files are missing? I took the list from the
> >> jigdo of one of the CDs that doesn't build, because it says there's
> >> one missing, and verified that all do exist in the specified location.
> >
> >You can output a list of missing files using the "jigdo-file print-missing" 
> >command.
>
>After posting I discovered it appears in the logs. Here's an example
>for the source.dvd, I can send you the complete list if necessary:
>
>Found 5935 of the 5943 files required by the template
>Copied input files to temporary file `image.tmp' - repeat command and supply 
>mor
>e files to continue
>2007-04-09 20:25:38: 8 parts still missing from image
>20:25:41 
>URL:http://us.cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/snapshot/Debian/pool/main/a/ar
>abtex/arabtex_3.11.orig.tar.gz [582121/582121] -> "arabtex_3.11.orig.tar.gz" 
>[1]
>20:25:46 
>URL:http://us.cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/snapshot/Debian/pool/main/g/gs
>oap/gsoap_2.7.6d.orig.tar.gz [5866490/5866490] -> "gsoap_2.7.6d.orig.tar.gz" 
>[1]
>20:26:01 
>URL:http://us.cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/snapshot/Debian/pool/main/b/bo
>s/bos_1.1.orig.tar.gz [20395114/20395114] -> "bos_1.1.orig.tar.gz" [1]
>20:26:46 
>URL:http://us.cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/snapshot/Debian/pool/main/c/cm
>-super/cm-super_0.3.3.orig.tar.gz [67064131/67064131] -> 
>"cm-super_0.3.3.orig.ta
>r.gz" [1]
>20:26:57 
>URL:http://us.cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/snapshot/Debian/pool/main/b/bo
>ost/boost_1.33.1.orig.tar.gz [14358143/14358143] -> "boost_1.33.1.orig.tar.gz" 
>[
>1]
>20:26:57 
>URL:http://us.cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/snapshot/Debian/pool/main/a/ar
>chzoom/archzoom_0.5.1-1.diff.gz [108481/108481] -> "archzoom_0.5.1-1.diff.gz" 
>[1
>]
>20:28:00 
>URL:http://us.cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/snapshot/Debian/pool/main/b/be
>neath-a-steel-sky/beneath-a-steel-sky_0.0372.orig.tar.gz [69379952/69379952] 
>-> 
>"beneath-a-steel-sky_0.0372.orig.tar.gz" [1]
>20:28:01 
>URL:http://us.cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/snapshot/Debian/pool/main/b/ba
>ycomepp/baycomepp_0.10.orig.tar.gz [474619/474619] -> 
>"baycomepp_0.10.orig.tar.g
>z"

Which jigdo file(s) are you using - the etch release? If so, I've
already generated working ISO images locally using those same jigdos.

>
> >Since no-one else appears to have problems, it seems that the .jigdo file 
> >is OK. I'm not sure what the problem at your side could be.
>
>Maybe it's just that no-one *notices* it. At first I put maxMissing=0,
>on the assumption that we're a full mirror and so we should have
>everything. However this breaks already for the first architecture,
>because 2 out of 3 dvds and some cds don't complete for alpha.
>
> >jigdo-file will calculate the md5sum of files before copying them to
> >the image, so even if the file is there and its name appears to be
> >correct, it will not be copied over if its content doesn't match.
>
>I checked some of the filenames and size (not checksums) and what
>comes from us.cdimage matches with what we have. Also, during the
>build process at least two full updates of our mirror were done, so
>it's not a problem of us being behind the latest version. Therefore,
>if they differ there's a problem. We have testing and unstable also,
>so there should be nothing that us.cdimage uses that we don't have.
>
>I agree that the problem may not be in jigdo but in the iso image
>itself using something different. How can we investigate the issue?

I've got access to the files on both snapshot servers, so I can
check if needed.

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Re: missing files in .jigdo are not missing?

2007-04-11 Thread Carlos Carvalho
Steve McIntyre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 11 April 2007 15:24:
 >Which jigdo file(s) are you using - the etch release?

Yes.

 >If so, I've already generated working ISO images locally using those
 >same jigdos.

Me too, I've generated *all* images. But about 30 files had to be
pulled from us.cdimage because jigdo-file didn't want the local ones.


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Re: missing files in .jigdo are not missing?

2007-04-11 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 12:01:32PM -0300, Carlos Carvalho wrote:
>Steve McIntyre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 11 April 2007 15:24:
> >Which jigdo file(s) are you using - the etch release?
>
>Yes.
>
> >If so, I've already generated working ISO images locally using those
> >same jigdos.
>
>Me too, I've generated *all* images. But about 30 files had to be
>pulled from us.cdimage because jigdo-file didn't want the local ones.

They worked for me locally, so I guess that means your local mirror
probably has a few broken files.

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Re: missing files in .jigdo are not missing?

2007-04-11 Thread Carlos Carvalho
Steve McIntyre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 11 April 2007 16:08:
 >On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 12:01:32PM -0300, Carlos Carvalho wrote:
 >>Steve McIntyre ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote on 11 April 2007 15:24:
 >> >Which jigdo file(s) are you using - the etch release?
 >>
 >>Yes.
 >>
 >> >If so, I've already generated working ISO images locally using those
 >> >same jigdos.
 >>
 >>Me too, I've generated *all* images. But about 30 files had to be
 >>pulled from us.cdimage because jigdo-file didn't want the local ones.
 >
 >They worked for me locally, so I guess that means your local mirror
 >probably has a few broken files.

OK, I'll refresh them from the upstream mirror. Thanks.


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DUTH mirror

2007-04-11 Thread Adamantios Diamantidis

Hi,

I'd like to inform you that ftp.duth.gr is also mirroring
the CD and DVD images. They are available via FTP, HTTP and
rsync. The URLs are

ftp://ftp.duth.gr/debian-cd/
http://ftp.duth.gr/debian-cd/
rsync://ftp.duth.gr/debian-cd/

Regards,
Adamantios


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Re: broken link to cdrecord on win

2007-04-11 Thread Carlos

On 4/11/07, Richard Atterer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello,

On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 12:28:05PM +1000, Carlos wrote:
> I just noticed that the link to cdrecord on
> http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#dvd is not working.
>
> I found this alternative one, but I am not sure if it is the best one:
>
> http://smithii.com/cdrtools

IMHO we should consider removing references to cdrtools in favour of wodim,
Debian's fork of the software. Also, I don't think a lot of people will use
the command-line cdrecord under Windows/Mac OS, so I'll also completely
remove these references unless someone screams now. :)


I agree in that few people would be interested in command-line windows
burning... I myself checked the link just out of curiosity of seeing
the win port of cdrecord...

But just today I found this interesting program that might be worth
including in the FAQ (being GPL):

Project:   http://sourceforge.net/projects/cdrtfe
Home Page:  http://home.arcor.de/kerberos002/cdrtfe/index_en.html
"A small burning application for Windows. cdrtfe is a frontend for the
cdrtools (cdrecord, mkisofs, readcd, cdda2wav), Mode2CDMaker and
VCDImager. It can burn data disks (CD and DVD), Audio CDs, XCDs,
(S)VCDs and DVD-Video disks."

Interestingly, it comes with all the needed programs bundled in an
installable "Setup.exe"
I haven't tried it myself, though. But if it works it would
deffinitelly be the option to recomentd over the proprietary ones.
If no one around there has tested it and you want me to, just drop me
an email. I can test it at my work laptop.

Carlos



Cheers,

  Richard

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