Disc Testing

2007-04-07 Thread Philip Charles
Main i386 CDs

Boot OK.  Graphical and text installers OK.
New system boots into gui

Tried encrypted LVM.  Very slow formatting.  Is this normal?  Not used.
LVM and non-LVM formating works with single and multiple partitions.

sources.list.  cdrom points to etch; security points to etch.
All tasks selected for installation (except laptop), no obvious problems.

*** Hack to use multiple discs.  *

Unplug the network.
Do not configure the network.

When tasksel comes up only install the Standard system.

Reboot, login as root.

run 
Scan the discs of the disc set.
Run 
Install what you want.
Reboot.

The screen gets over-written by various messages, this can
be disconcerting.

When installing a NZ system, discs 1, 2, 4 of a four disc 
set were used.  About 1.6 gig was installed.

***

This was worked out on an earlier testing build and 
confirmed tonight (NZ time).

3:45am on Easter Day.  Going to bed.

Phil.

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Re: Disc Testing

2007-04-07 Thread Frans Pop
On Saturday 07 April 2007 17:42, Philip Charles wrote:
> Tried encrypted LVM.  Very slow formatting.  Is this normal?  Not used.
> LVM and non-LVM formating works with single and multiple partitions.

Yes, this is normal. It writes random data to the whole disk, which 
obviously takes a while.

The rest of your report looks normal. Thanks for testing!

Cheers,
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Bug#418195: netinst/bc: README contains para irrelevant

2007-04-07 Thread Frans Pop
Package: debian-cd
Version: 3.0.2
Severity: minor

The README on smaller images contains a para that does not really apply to 
them:

The programs on the Binary discs are ordered by popularity. The Binary-1 
disc contains the most popular programs and the installation tools; it is 
possible to install and run Debian with only the Binary-1 disc. The other 
discs, up to Binary-1, contain mostly special-interest programs.


IMO this para should be suppressed for any images that don't have COMPLETE 
(including the multi-arch CDs probably).


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Re: Test results.....Re: Etch CD/DVD testing - long!

2007-04-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 02:25:20PM -0700, Jwest wrote:
>
>On Apr 7, 2007, at 5:05 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>
>>Small CDs now available for download at
>>
>
>Tried CD#1 and DVD set on both macbook and Dell with dual cpu.
>
>Both worked well. no real problems.  I did notice that DVD #2
>is no longer bootable.Even the documentation says etch !!

Cool, thanks for the help! :-)

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Re: Disc Testing

2007-04-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 03:42:11AM +1200, Philip Charles wrote:
>
>3:45am on Easter Day.  Going to bed.

Cool, thanks for the help!

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Re: Test results.....Re: Etch CD/DVD testing - long!

2007-04-07 Thread Jwest


On Apr 7, 2007, at 5:05 AM, Steve McIntyre wrote:


Small CDs now available for download at



Tried CD#1 and DVD set on both macbook and Dell with dual cpu.

Both worked well. no real problems.  I did notice that DVD #2
is no longer bootable.Even the documentation says etch !!


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Bug#418195: netinst/bc: README contains para irrelevant

2007-04-07 Thread Frans Pop
tags 418195 + patch
thanks

On Saturday 07 April 2007 23:17, Frans Pop wrote:
> The README on smaller images contains a para that does not really apply
> to them:

Please consider the attached patch that should fix this. It improves the 
match of the image with text a bit more in general as it also 
The suggested text in case an image is not COMPLETE should be general 
enough to cover both bc and netinst.

I've tested the patch with a bc image, but not with full CD images.

It also contains a few other tweaks for the README:
- make link to /.disk/info relative
- suggest aptitude also for pkg management from the commandline

Index: tools/add-bin-doc
===
--- tools/add-bin-doc	(revision 1397)
+++ tools/add-bin-doc	(working copy)
@@ -10,6 +10,10 @@
 
 DEBMAINVER="`echo $DEBVERSION | sed -e 's/[ _r].*//'`"
 
+if [ "$COMPLETE"x = ""x ] ; then
+	COMPLETE=0
+fi
+
 if [ "$OMIT_RELEASE_NOTES"x = ""x ] ; then
 	OMIT_RELEASE_NOTES=0
 fi
@@ -31,6 +35,7 @@
 	$dir/README.pgp $dir/README.non-US ; \
 
 cpp -traditional -undef -P -C -Wall -nostdinc -I$dir \
+-D COMPLETE="$COMPLETE" \
 -D OMIT_MANUAL="$OMIT_MANUAL" \
 -D OFFICIAL_VAL=$OFFICIAL_VAL \
 -D OMIT_RELEASE_NOTES="$OMIT_RELEASE_NOTES" \
Index: debian/changelog
===
--- debian/changelog	(revision 1398)
+++ debian/changelog	(working copy)
@@ -3,13 +3,20 @@
   [ Steve McIntyre ]
   * In start_new_disc, cope with $DEBVERSION containing spaces.
   * Only put the release notes and installation guide on disc#1.
-  * In list2cds, don't add udebs in the final COMPLETE run - 
+  * In list2cds, don't add udebs in the final COMPLETE run -
 they're no use there.
   * Add some munging on the Release files if we're not building
 for "testing". Used in the etch release, and I'll back it out shortly.
 
- -- Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Wed, 28 Mar 2007 22:57:41 +0100
+  [ Frans Pop ]
+  * Tweak README to better describe small images and images that are not part
+of a larger set.
+  * Make link in README to /.disk/info relative so its still valid if the disk
+is mounted in a regular system.
+  * In README, recommend aptitude also for command line usage.
 
+ -- Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  Sun,  8 Apr 2007 00:46:05 +0200
+
 debian-cd (3.0.2) unstable; urgency=high
 
   [ Steve McIntyre ]
Index: data/etch/README.html.in
===
--- data/etch/README.html.in	(revision 1397)
+++ data/etch/README.html.in	(working copy)
@@ -293,7 +293,13 @@
 
 
 #ifndef UNOFFEXTRAS
+#if COMPLETE
 which means that this disc is number DISKNUM of a set of TOTALNUM discs.
+#else
+This image only contains those programs needed to install a system. During the
+installation you will be prompted for a network mirror from where additional
+programs will be retrieved.
+#endif
 #if TYPEbinary
 It contains programs ("binaries") for `ARCH' computers.
 #if ARCHia64 && !ARCHamd64
@@ -302,11 +308,15 @@
 please see the Debian amd64 architecture.
 #endif
 
+#if COMPLETE
 The programs on the Binary discs are ordered by popularity. The Binary-1 disc
 contains the most popular programs and the installation tools; it is possible
-to install and run Debian with only the Binary-1 disc. The other discs, up to
-Binary-TOTALNUM, contain mostly special-interest programs.
-
+to install and run Debian with only the Binary-1 disc.
+#if TOTALNUM > 1
+The other discs, up to Binary-TOTALNUM, contain mostly special-interest programs.
+#endif
+
+#endif
 #if OMIT_RELEASE_NOTES
 The Release Notes for "etch" are available on the http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/releasenotes";>Debian web
@@ -443,7 +453,7 @@
 HREF="http://bugs.debian.org/";>bugs.debian.org.
 If you're reporting bugs against this disc or the installation
 system, please also mention the version of this disc; this can be
-found in the file /.disk/info.
+found in the file /.disk/info.
 #endif
 #if OFFICIAL_VAL == 2
 This is an official release of the Debian system. Please report any
@@ -451,7 +461,7 @@
 HREF="http://bugs.debian.org/";>bugs.debian.org.
 If you're reporting bugs against this disc or the installation
 system, please also mention the version of this disc; this can be
-found in the file /.disk/info.
+found in the file /.disk/info.
 #endif
 
  
@@ -483,18 +493,18 @@
  
 
  You can install packages from the commandline using
- apt-get. For example, if you want to install the packages
+ aptitude. For example, if you want to install the packages
  `commprog' and `maxgame', you can give the command
  
   
-   apt-get install commprog maxgame
+   aptitude install commprog maxgame
  
  
  Note that you don't have to enter the complete path, or the
  `.deb' extension. `Apt' will figure this out itself. 
  
- Or use aptitude for a full screen interactive selection of available
- Debian packages.
+ Or enter just aptitude to interactively select available 

Bug#418195: netinst/bc: README contains para irrelevant

2007-04-07 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 12:57:23AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:

...

>Index: data/etch/README.html.in
>===
>--- data/etch/README.html.in   (revision 1397)
>+++ data/etch/README.html.in   (working copy)
>@@ -293,7 +293,13 @@
> 
> 
> #ifndef UNOFFEXTRAS
>+#if COMPLETE
> which means that this disc is number DISKNUM of a set of TOTALNUM discs.
>+#else
>+This image only contains those programs needed to install a system. During the
>+installation you will be prompted for a network mirror from where additional
>+programs will be retrieved.

The new language is a little off, I think. Maybe:

"During the installation you will be prompted for the location of a
network mirror that contains any additional packages you wish to
install."

>+#endif
> #if TYPEbinary
> It contains programs ("binaries") for `ARCH' computers.
> #if ARCHia64 && !ARCHamd64
>@@ -302,11 +308,15 @@
> please see the Debian amd64 architecture.
> #endif
> 
>+#if COMPLETE
> The programs on the Binary discs are ordered by popularity. The Binary-1 disc
> contains the most popular programs and the installation tools; it is possible
>-to install and run Debian with only the Binary-1 disc. The other discs, up to
>-Binary-TOTALNUM, contain mostly special-interest programs.
>-
>+to install and run Debian with only the Binary-1 disc.
>+#if TOTALNUM > 1
>+The other discs, up to Binary-TOTALNUM, contain mostly special-interest 
>programs.
>+#endif

I think we've grown too much to claim that anything after disc#1 is
just "special-interest". Is there better wording for this?

>+
>+#endif
> #if OMIT_RELEASE_NOTES
> The Release Notes for "etch" are available on the  href="http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/releasenotes";>Debian web
>@@ -443,7 +453,7 @@
> HREF="http://bugs.debian.org/";>bugs.debian.org.
> If you're reporting bugs against this disc or the installation
> system, please also mention the version of this disc; this can be
>-found in the file /.disk/info.
>+found in the file /.disk/info.
> #endif
> #if OFFICIAL_VAL == 2
> This is an official release of the Debian system. Please report any
>@@ -451,7 +461,7 @@
> HREF="http://bugs.debian.org/";>bugs.debian.org.
> If you're reporting bugs against this disc or the installation
> system, please also mention the version of this disc; this can be
>-found in the file /.disk/info.
>+found in the file /.disk/info.
> #endif
> 
>  
>@@ -483,18 +493,18 @@
>  
> 
>  You can install packages from the commandline using
>- apt-get. For example, if you want to install the packages
>+ aptitude. For example, if you want to install the packages
>  `commprog' and `maxgame', you can give the command
>  
>   
>-   apt-get install commprog maxgame
>+   aptitude install commprog maxgame
>  
>  
>  Note that you don't have to enter the complete path, or the
>  `.deb' extension. `Apt' will figure this out itself. 
>  
>- Or use aptitude for a full screen interactive selection of available
>- Debian packages.
>+ Or enter just aptitude to interactively select available Debian
>+ packages using a full screen user interface.
>  
> #endif

Cool otherwise. Oh, should we maybe mention synaptic/adept/whatever as
well here?

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Bug#418195: netinst/bc: README contains para irrelevant

2007-04-07 Thread Frans Pop
On Sunday 08 April 2007 01:25, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 12:57:23AM +0200, Frans Pop wrote:
> >+This image only contains those programs needed to install a system.
> > During the installation you will be prompted for a network mirror
> > from where additional programs will be retrieved.
>
> The new language is a little off, I think. Maybe:
>
> "During the installation you will be prompted for the location of a
> network mirror that contains any additional packages you wish to
> install."

I see you s/programs/packages/ here. I was wondering if it would not be 
better to use packages instead of programs more often in general in this 
README... Only disadvantage is that "programs" also at least somewhat 
covers the installer.

I have some problems with your proposal too though, especially the second 
half. Maybe combine the two?
"During the installation you will be prompted for the location of a
network mirror from where additional packages will be retrieved."

> I think we've grown too much to claim that anything after disc#1 is
> just "special-interest". Is there better wording for this?

Yes, I agree.
Maybe: "It is unlikely that you will need all of the TOTALNUM disks in the 
set. The higher the number in the set, the less likely it is that you 
will use any of the packages that are included; higher-number images 
contain mostly special-interest programs."

> Cool otherwise. Oh, should we maybe mention synaptic/adept/whatever as
> well here?

Yes. "If you choose to install a graphical desktop environment, other 
package management programs (such as synaptic) can be used as well."


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