Single torrent package for download "sarge" ?

2004-09-28 Thread David Balazic
Title: Single torrent package for download "sarge" ?





Hi!


I am in the process of downloading the "sarge" CD images from http://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/
that links to http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/weekly/torrents/.


I am at CD 6 and now I get "rejected by tracker" errors. It seems a new set of torrents was
uploaded and the old ones are not working any more.


So now I have a incomplete set of CD images.


Would it be possible to create a torrent for a package containing all the CD images ?



Or a short list on the web page explaining which CD has what content, so one could
choose a certain subset.


Regards,
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we lost all DOS support, do we want it back?

2004-09-28 Thread Santiago Garcia Mantinan
Hi!

Today I was trying to install sarge on an old machine, it doesn't boot from
cd, so I said I'd use etherboot from a floppy, and when that didn't work
even after adding another network card I sai'd, I'd boot from DOS and launch
the install from the cd.

Well, I have realised that we've lost all DOS compatibility, we don't have
the install.bat or boot.bat that we used to have, that could easily be
added, but we don't have loadlin.exe on the cd (wasn't there on beta1 cds
already), these two problems could be easily solved if one gets loadlin and
the .bat file into the DOS floppy he is using, but I think we should put
this on our cds, what does people think about this?

Currently there is another problem, as cds are no longer usable under DOS, I
believe this is a bug caused by the JTE patch to mkisofs, Steve is going to
take a look at this when he has some time, in the meanwhile I have changed
config so that the images which are not jigdoed (netinst and businesscard)
are produced using a non JTE patched version of mkisofs, so they should
start working in DOS again, only missing the bat and the loadlin which is
people agrees, I would inmediately add.

Well, that's all for the DOS support.

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Re: Single torrent package for download "sarge" ?

2004-09-28 Thread Mattias Wadenstein
On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, David Balazic wrote:
Hi!
I am in the process of downloading the "sarge" CD images from
http://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/
that links to http://cdimage.debian.org/pub/weekly/torrents/.
I am at CD 6 and now I get "rejected by tracker" errors. It seems a new set
of torrents was
uploaded and the old ones are not working any more.
Yes, this would be resonable since there was a new update yesterday.
So now I have a incomplete set of CD images.
Would it be possible to create a torrent for a package containing all the CD
images ?
This would probably not be a good idea since it would split all bittorrent 
users into two sets that don't share blocks between them. Besides, it is 
quite easy to do a bittorrent download on an entire directory of torrents.

Or a short list on the web page explaining which CD has what content, so 
one could choose a certain subset.
Yes, I agree this would be most useful. I don't know how practical it 
would be though. Anyone in the image production that knows if this would 
be possible? Otherwise, you generally can make it with just the first few 
CDs.

/Mattias Wadenstein
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Calculation of cd sizes implemented and tested, should I commit?

2004-09-28 Thread Santiago Garcia Mantinan
Hi!

It is two weeks since we started using at gluck the code I made to try to
estimate the sizes of the cd parts that debian-cd was not controling, it
seems to be working ok, so I was wondering if I should commit it :-?

What I did is an script tools/calc which gets info from the last full or
partial cd build, so that it gets the sizes of the boot files and other
stuff on the cds which is not packages and then builds a .calc file
containing this.

So, this is all standard, I mean, if one wants to use tools/calc to update
the .calc files for an arch, he can, if not, he uses the last estimations
stored in .calc files and given that things hadn't changed a lot since they
were estimated, they should still work ok.

The resulting .calc files are like this one (boot-powerpc.calc):

BOOT_SIZE_1=65
BOOT_SIZE_10=2
BOOT_SIZE_11=2
BOOT_SIZE_12=2
BOOT_SIZE_13=2
BOOT_SIZE_14=2
BOOT_SIZE_2=2
BOOT_SIZE_3=2
BOOT_SIZE_4=2
BOOT_SIZE_5=2
BOOT_SIZE_6=2
BOOT_SIZE_7=2
BOOT_SIZE_8=2
BOOT_SIZE_9=2
SIZE_MULT_1=93

The SIZE_MULT stuff is calculated by hand, as there is no way to easily
estimate the filesystem overhead, so far only m68k for all cds and powerpc
for the first cd need this.

I can try to remove the 2 megs of maximum overhead that is being added and
remove a lot of those entries if people finds any problem with this data.

This is the code that generates it:

#!/bin/sh

# Directory of the previous build, this doesn't need to be a full build,
# you can get the needed stuff by running a build.sh with something like:
# IMAGETARGET="ok bootable upgrade bin-infos bin-list"
BDIR="$TDIR/$CODENAME-$ARCH"

#Get info from older build if it exists
if [ -d "$BDIR" ];
then
  echo Estimated sizes:
  rm -f "boot/sarge/boot-$ARCH.calc"
  for i in `du -sm "$BDIR"/CD[0123456789]* |
  sed -n 's/^\([0-9]\+\).*CD\([0-9]\+\)/\2=\1/p'`
  do
#space used by boot images in megs (this has an error of up to a mega)
if [ -d "$BDIR/boot${i%=*}" ]
then
  imgdu=`du -sm "$BDIR/boot${i%=*}" |
   sed -n 's/^\([0-9]\+\).*/\1/p'`
else
  imgdu=1
fi
#add it all up and write it to the .calc file
echo BOOT_SIZE_${i%=*}=${i#*=}+$imgdu
echo BOOT_SIZE_${i%=*}=$((${i#*=}+$imgdu)) >> "boot/sarge/boot-$ARCH.calc"
case "$ARCH" in
  m68k) echo SIZE_MULT_${i%=*}=97 >> "boot/sarge/boot-$ARCH.calc";;
esac
  done
fi
case "$ARCH" in
  powerpc) echo SIZE_MULT_1=93 >> "boot/sarge/boot-$ARCH.calc";;
esac

Well, comments, new ideas, patches, ... :-?

Should I commit it like that and then let people do changes?

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Re: Single torrent package for download "sarge" ?

2004-09-28 Thread Richard Atterer
On Tue, Sep 28, 2004 at 03:19:38PM +0200, Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Sep 2004, David Balazic wrote:
> >Or a short list on the web page explaining which CD has what content, so
> >one could choose a certain subset.
> 
> Yes, I agree this would be most useful. I don't know how practical it
> would be though. Anyone in the image production that knows if this would
> be possible?

Extracting the list of files during the creation or from the .jigdo files
is pretty trivial, so this shouldn't be a problem. A more difficult 
question is where on the web pages to put such lists.

I have a feeling that with the current huge number of image variants,
people who have never visited the Debian CD pages before can get lost
pretty quickly. :-/ It would be nice to have a form where people could
select any subset of the architectures, sizes
(business/netinst/CD/DVD/DL-DVD) and preferred download methods
(HTTP/FTP/rsync/jigdo/bt) and get a table of results...

Cheers,

  Richard

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Re: we lost all DOS support, do we want it back?

2004-09-28 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Santiago Garcia Mantinan]
> Well, I have realised that we've lost all DOS compatibility, we don't have
> the install.bat or boot.bat that we used to have, that could easily be
> added, but we don't have loadlin.exe on the cd (wasn't there on beta1 cds
> already), these two problems could be easily solved if one gets loadlin and
> the .bat file into the DOS floppy he is using, but I think we should put
> this on our cds, what does people think about this?

I agree that this was a nice feature, and I would like to have it back. :)


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