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Re: Dual layer DVD

2004-09-13 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Mon, Sep 13, 2004 at 06:32:37AM +0200, Christian Fasshauer wrote:
>Steve McIntyre wrote:
>>
>>Yes, it should be quite easy to grab all the bits you need from the 2
>>smaller ISOs to make the large one, with just the filesystem headers
>>and directory structure changing. I'm actually working on a script to
>>make that easier right now...
>>
>Could such a script not be shipped on the first of two small dvd images, 
>so only the 2 ISOs had to be made public. If anyone wants one dual-layer 
>image, he could simply merge them using the script without downloading 
>the big image.
>
>Even all iso images could contain scripts to convert them eighter to CD 
>or to DVD images, which would help saving disc space and a litte bit of 
>net traffic.

It's not quite that simple. The big images / jigdos still have to be
made, and at least the jigdo/template files made available for this to
work. I'll post more details once I've got more done.

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Daily D-I images broken..

2004-09-13 Thread Jan Kesten
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Hi all,
when i tried to build a sarge cd set today, following happens:
- --SNIP--
Running tools/boot/sarge/boot-i386 1 /ftp/tmp/sarge-i386/CD1
- --13:34:33--
http://people.debian.org/%7Ejoeyh/d-i/images/daily/cdrom/boot.img
~   => `cdrom/boot.img'
Resolving people.debian.org... 192.25.206.10
Connecting to people.debian.org[192.25.206.10]:80... connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found
13:34:36 ERROR 404: Not Found.
- --SNIP--
Looks like that building the daily installer images didn't work (log
~ shows that there were unmet dependencies, debiandoc-sgml).
Since I never tried before, is it possible to put beta1 D-I images
on the disks instead? And if, what do I need to put in DI_WWW_HOME?
Cheers,
Jan
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Re: Dual layer DVD

2004-09-13 Thread Steve McIntyre
On Tue, Sep 07, 2004 at 02:19:16PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>[ Sent to both -release and -cd; please respect the reply-to: -cd ]

Ditto.

>There's been quite a lot of discussion lately about releasing sarge on
>dual-layer DVD; it's clearly attractive for CD/DVD vendors to be able
>to sell one disc that covers Debian, and for the end user it's much
>easier to boot and install from a single disc with no
>swapping/flipping needed.
>
>I've been looking up specs for this, in particular sizes. According to
>http://www.disctronics.co.uk/technology/dvdrom/dvdrom_specs.htm and
>various other pages google can find:
>
>  a single-sided single-layer DVD (aka DVD-5) holds 4.7e+9 bytes
>
>  a single-sided dual-layer DVD (aka DVD-9) holds 8.5e+9 bytes

I've created a set of (what I expected to be) single DVD-sized images
for each architecture. I'm worried:

alpha/alpha-1 8471242752 bytes
arm/arm-1 7612305408 bytes
hppa/hppa-1 8148635648 bytes
i386/i386-1 8735232000 bytes
ia64/ia64-1 9016291328 bytes
m68k/m68k-1 8810422272 bytes
mips/mips-1 7869827072 bytes
mipsel/mipsel-1 7720431616 bytes
powerpc/powerpc-1 10134548480 bytes
powerpc/powerpc-2 355729408 bytes
s390/s390-1 8079792128 bytes
sparc/sparc-1 8143155200 bytes
src/src-1 9058893824 bytes

Some of the architectures may fit fine on DL DVD (alpha, arm, mips,
mipsel, s390, sparc), but i386 is looking even bigger than manty's
set and src is much bigger again. m68k, ia64 and powerpc (over 10G!)
are really going to have problems if we care about this.

Recent experience on the lists suggests that the most common
architectures for DVDs are i386 and powerpc. Both of these are going
to need significant pruning at the moment if we care about a
single-disc install. At the moment, ppc may not even fit on 2 DVDs!

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