Re: Removing unofficial testing images links from CD/
CCing debian-cd just in case... On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 03:48:16PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > We (the d-i team) keep getting confused users showing up who have > downloaded the *unofficial* testing CD images and then find that they > don't work. This wastes our testers' time, wastes our time (since we > don't have any oversight of how those CDs are created and are unlikely > to be able to fix them), and d-i is now good enough and close enough to > release that we really want as many people as possible to be testing the > official images. > > Would anyone object if I removed these links from the CD/ tree? Do you mean you want to remove the links to the unofficial *stable* netinst images on http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/? I'm asking because the only *testing* netinst images that are mentioned are the debian installer ones. I'm a bit reluctant to see the links to the *stable* netinst images go - after all, stable is the one distribution we are supposed to support most. ;-/ Or ar you talking about Manty's full testing CD images on http://gluck.debian.org/cdimage/testing/cd/jigdo-area/? Or Attila's unofficial ones on ftp://ftp.fsn.hu/pub/CDROM-Images/debian-unofficial/sarge/jigdo/? Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 0x888354F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Removing unofficial testing images links from CD/
On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 06:12:33PM +0200, Richard Atterer wrote: > CCing debian-cd just in case... > > On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 03:48:16PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > We (the d-i team) keep getting confused users showing up who have > > downloaded the *unofficial* testing CD images and then find that they > > don't work. This wastes our testers' time, wastes our time (since we > > don't have any oversight of how those CDs are created and are unlikely > > to be able to fix them), and d-i is now good enough and close enough to > > release that we really want as many people as possible to be testing the > > official images. > > > > Would anyone object if I removed these links from the CD/ tree? > > Do you mean you want to remove the links to the unofficial *stable* netinst > images on http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/? I'm asking because the only > *testing* netinst images that are mentioned are the debian installer ones. > > I'm a bit reluctant to see the links to the *stable* netinst images go - > after all, stable is the one distribution we are supposed to support most. > ;-/ Not talking about stable, only testing. The bits I'm talking about are: http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Removing unofficial testing images links from CD/
On Thu, May 13, 2004 at 05:55:56PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > Not talking about stable, only testing. The bits I'm talking about are: > > http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/ > http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ Those pages list two sources of testing CDs, the ones on gluck and the ones on fsn.hu, so I guess those are the ones you mean. I'm all for reducing the number of different flavours of CD images - we seem to be aiming for all combinations of unstable/testing/stable times full-CD/full-DVD/businesscard-netinst/small-CD-netinst times official/unofficial, which is way too much to choose from for people who "just want to download Debian". :-/ However, AIUI the beta 4 installer CD images are only available as "small CD" images, i.e. you need a network connection on the machine that Debian is installed on. It'd be a very bad idea to just remove all traces of the other CD images from the web pages, since a large number of people do not have access to a fast network when they install. So, my own opinion is: We cannot just remove the full testing CD images right now, so let's start producing full debian-installer CD and DVD sets! I'm not sure how easy it would be for you (debian-installer folks) to produce .jigdos for these kinds of images, but this seems the most straightforward solution. Once debian-installer based images are there, the testing CD images from other sources are no longer needed. Cheers, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | GnuPG key: | \/¯| http://atterer.net | 0x888354F7 ¯ '` ¯ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Removing unofficial testing images links from CD/
Richard Atterer wrote: > So, my own opinion is: We cannot just remove the full testing CD images > right now, so let's start producing full debian-installer CD and DVD sets! > > I'm not sure how easy it would be for you (debian-installer folks) to > produce .jigdos for these kinds of images These files are produced weekly. It turns out that due to no testing, the full CDs are broken (see my earlier mail to debian-cd, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>), so there is no point in including it in beta4. Since I posted that, CD detection by base-config has been fixed, but the other problems (lack of X, no network config, lack of discover1, lack of kde and gdm) remain unfixed AFAIK. However, I doubt the fsn.hu full CDs are in any better shape. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
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