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Re: Dead link on HP

[Richard Atterer]

On Sat, Dec 20, 2003 at 06:58:03PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> http://people.debian.org/~manty/testing/netinst/i386/daily/ for a daily,
> and http://www.mmweg.rwth-aachen.de/~sebastian.ley/d-i/ for the last one
> known to be fairly stable.

Manty, am I right in assuming that you don't want the links on the web
pages to point to your page on people.d.o? After all, the original location
should work again RSN, right?!

Cheers,

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images

[Ken Wilson]

Is there any chance that ANY i386 image will reappear? Not ever one is
available - not a very encouraging situation for Debian.


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broken link/missing page

[James Cornell]

the debian gluck/sarge netinst iso page is either 
mssing or mislinked.  If you know the url or can get the page back up for 
these isos, please do so and e-mail me back.  Thanks!
 
James Cornell

Re: images

[Martin Michlmayr]

* Ken Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-12-22 10:06]:
> Is there any chance that ANY i386 image will reappear? Not ever one is
> available - not a very encouraging situation for Debian.

http://people.debian.org/~manty/testing/netinst/i386/daily/

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Re: broken link/missing page

[Martin Michlmayr]

* James Cornell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-12-22 08:20]:
> the debian gluck/sarge netinst iso page is either mssing or
> mislinked.  If you know the url or can get the page back up for
> these isos, please do so and e-mail me back.  Thanks!

http://people.debian.org/~manty/testing/netinst/i386/daily/

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Re: Bug#221907: no need to always install pcmcia-cs for d-i

[Gaudenz Steinlin]

[for debian-cd: Discussion about the removal of pcmcia-cs, lilo and mbr
from the debootstrap list]

Am Mon, den 22.12.2003 schrieb Joey Hess um 07:59:
> Anthony Towns wrote:
> > Yes, that is the answer I want. How about pcmcia-cs?
> 
> Same story, hw-detect apt-installs it if it sees that the machine has a
> pcmcia bus, and later kernel-installer takes care of installing the
> matching kernel-pcmcia-modules package for i386.

Please take into account that debian-cd uses debootstrap to find out
what has to be on the netinst cd's. Although these packages should not
be installed by debootstrap they should not be removed from these cds!

The tools/generate_di+k_list script in debian cd has to be adjusted to
reflect this change.

Gaudenz


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Re: Dead link on HP

[Santiago Garcia Mantinan]

> Manty, am I right in assuming that you don't want the links on the web
> pages to point to your page on people.d.o?

That's ok, the thing we want is the normal pages to be back ASAP, when that
will be... I don't know, why I have built that in my home... to test dvd
images.

For going back into our old build system we need some apache setup and a
directory to be moved, also we are still missing powerpc and alpha
debian-installer daily images.

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Re: Bug#221907: no need to always install pcmcia-cs for d-i

[Anthony Towns]

On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 12:30:24PM +0100, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> Am Mon, den 22.12.2003 schrieb Joey Hess um 07:59:
> > Anthony Towns wrote:
> > > Yes, that is the answer I want. How about pcmcia-cs?
> > Same story, hw-detect apt-installs it if it sees that the machine has a
> > pcmcia bus, and later kernel-installer takes care of installing the
> > matching kernel-pcmcia-modules package for i386.
> Please take into account that debian-cd uses debootstrap to find out
> what has to be on the netinst cd's. Although these packages should not
> be installed by debootstrap they should not be removed from these cds!

Hrm. I suspect what I'll do is setup --debian-installer to ignore those
packages, which should keep things working okay in the short term.

In the long term, though, I'd like to switch so that debootstrap doesn't
know about these optional packages (except perhaps for the --boot-floppies
argument for a little while longer), so debian-cd (and the basedebs
generating code) is going to need some other way of working out which
other packages are useful to have around.

Who's going to take responsibility for this?

Overrides on the ftp site might work okay, with the caveat that they have to
be the same on all architectures. Something like:

Package: pcmcia-cs
Version: blah
Base: optional

could work, eg. That would require debian-cd to select the debs that
debootstrap says is needed _as well as_ the debs listed as "Base:
optional" in the Packages file.

It'd be possible to add a "--all-base" or "--debian-cd" argument to
debootstrap for debian-cd to use to list all these packages, which might
be okay.

The alternative seems to be for "d-i" to tell debian-cd which debs it needs
to have available directly somehow.

Cheers,
aj

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Re: Bug#221907: no need to always install pcmcia-cs for d-i

[Joey Hess]

Anthony Towns wrote:
> In the long term, though, I'd like to switch so that debootstrap doesn't
> know about these optional packages (except perhaps for the --boot-floppies
> argument for a little while longer), so debian-cd (and the basedebs
> generating code) is going to need some other way of working out which
> other packages are useful to have around.
> 
> Who's going to take responsibility for this?

Currently the place to put stuff like that is
tasks/debian-installer+kernel in debian-cd. There are already a few
other things in there. We just have to coordinate and remember to keep
it up-to-date.

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Re: Bug#221907: no need to always install pcmcia-cs for d-i

[Gaudenz Steinlin]

[for debian-cd: Discussion about the removal of pcmcia-cs, lilo and mbr
from the debootstrap list]

Am Mon, den 22.12.2003 schrieb Joey Hess um 07:59:
> Anthony Towns wrote:
> > Yes, that is the answer I want. How about pcmcia-cs?
> 
> Same story, hw-detect apt-installs it if it sees that the machine has a
> pcmcia bus, and later kernel-installer takes care of installing the
> matching kernel-pcmcia-modules package for i386.

Please take into account that debian-cd uses debootstrap to find out
what has to be on the netinst cd's. Although these packages should not
be installed by debootstrap they should not be removed from these cds!

The tools/generate_di+k_list script in debian cd has to be adjusted to
reflect this change.

Gaudenz

Re: Dead link on HP

[Richard Atterer]

On Sat, Dec 20, 2003 at 06:58:03PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
> http://people.debian.org/~manty/testing/netinst/i386/daily/ for a daily,
> and http://www.mmweg.rwth-aachen.de/~sebastian.ley/d-i/ for the last one
> known to be fairly stable.

Manty, am I right in assuming that you don't want the links on the web
pages to point to your page on people.d.o? After all, the original location
should work again RSN, right?!

Cheers,

  Richard

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images

[Ken Wilson]

Is there any chance that ANY i386 image will reappear? Not ever one is
available - not a very encouraging situation for Debian.


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broken link/missing page

[James Cornell]

the debian gluck/sarge netinst iso page is either 
mssing or mislinked.  If you know the url or can get the page back up for 
these isos, please do so and e-mail me back.  Thanks!
 
James Cornell

Re: broken link/missing page

[Martin Michlmayr]

* James Cornell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-12-22 08:20]:
> the debian gluck/sarge netinst iso page is either mssing or
> mislinked.  If you know the url or can get the page back up for
> these isos, please do so and e-mail me back.  Thanks!

http://people.debian.org/~manty/testing/netinst/i386/daily/

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Re: images

[Martin Michlmayr]

* Ken Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-12-22 10:06]:
> Is there any chance that ANY i386 image will reappear? Not ever one is
> available - not a very encouraging situation for Debian.

http://people.debian.org/~manty/testing/netinst/i386/daily/

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Re: Dead link on HP

[Santiago Garcia Mantinan]

> Manty, am I right in assuming that you don't want the links on the web
> pages to point to your page on people.d.o?

That's ok, the thing we want is the normal pages to be back ASAP, when that
will be... I don't know, why I have built that in my home... to test dvd
images.

For going back into our old build system we need some apache setup and a
directory to be moved, also we are still missing powerpc and alpha
debian-installer daily images.

Thanks for asking!
-- 
Manty/BestiaTester -> http://manty.net

Re: Bug#221907: no need to always install pcmcia-cs for d-i

[Anthony Towns]

On Mon, Dec 22, 2003 at 12:30:24PM +0100, Gaudenz Steinlin wrote:
> Am Mon, den 22.12.2003 schrieb Joey Hess um 07:59:
> > Anthony Towns wrote:
> > > Yes, that is the answer I want. How about pcmcia-cs?
> > Same story, hw-detect apt-installs it if it sees that the machine has a
> > pcmcia bus, and later kernel-installer takes care of installing the
> > matching kernel-pcmcia-modules package for i386.
> Please take into account that debian-cd uses debootstrap to find out
> what has to be on the netinst cd's. Although these packages should not
> be installed by debootstrap they should not be removed from these cds!

Hrm. I suspect what I'll do is setup --debian-installer to ignore those
packages, which should keep things working okay in the short term.

In the long term, though, I'd like to switch so that debootstrap doesn't
know about these optional packages (except perhaps for the --boot-floppies
argument for a little while longer), so debian-cd (and the basedebs
generating code) is going to need some other way of working out which
other packages are useful to have around.

Who's going to take responsibility for this?

Overrides on the ftp site might work okay, with the caveat that they have to
be the same on all architectures. Something like:

Package: pcmcia-cs
Version: blah
Base: optional

could work, eg. That would require debian-cd to select the debs that
debootstrap says is needed _as well as_ the debs listed as "Base:
optional" in the Packages file.

It'd be possible to add a "--all-base" or "--debian-cd" argument to
debootstrap for debian-cd to use to list all these packages, which might
be okay.

The alternative seems to be for "d-i" to tell debian-cd which debs it needs
to have available directly somehow.

Cheers,
aj

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