how do i burn a raw file to cd

2003-07-21 Thread johari
i hope you can send me this answer
regards
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Re: Donating Debian CDs to libraries

2003-07-21 Thread Gordon Huff
At 06:51 PM 7/19/2003 -0500, Aaron J. Enright wrote:
Howdy.

On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 09:02:48AM -0700, Gordon Huff wrote:
> I've just had a discussion like this with my local librarian.



I can tell you that anything physically written on the
disk (in part why I advocate donating an official set), as well as any
README, COPYRIGHT, and similar files found among the data on the cd would
be the most likely sources for the bibliographic information for cataloguing
the cd set.  Whatever information the cataloger needs but cannot find
in those files can easily be found at the debian website.
My local library already has a CDROM collection - if this is the answer I 
think my librarian was asking another question. I've suggested the following :

Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 rev 1 "Woody".
Official i386 Binary-1
005.4469 Debian 16Dec2002
and I'll add the


Mind you, I am talking about very basic elements of bibliographic
information here.  Things like title (Debian GNU/Linux 3.0r1), statement
of responsibility (Debian Project), copyright (2003 Software in the
Public Interest), and so on.  This is all stuff generally found on the
title page verso (the 'copyright page') of a book, the software
equivalent of which are the README file, COPYRIGHT file, EULA, splash
screens, etc.  The description of medium and system requirements would
really be the only elements specific to computer files I can think of.
as well.


Try searching google with "anglo american cataloging rules":
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=anglo+american+cataloging+rules&btnG=Google+Search
That yields many a descriptive hit.
I've tried that. I especially like :
http://sparta.rice.edu/~keckker/Manual/CD-ROM.html
=snip=
> Is there a librarian on this list who has cataloged a CD?
Yes, I have.  Do you have any questions about the process?  It's always
fun to talk shop.
I'm sure my local librarian will appreciate this offer.

I say just go adhead and donate the cds.  The library should have the
ability to deal with them.  Seems a bit to me that you are doing their
work by worrying about how to get the cd set into their catalog.  If
they are worried about things like copyright infringement, encourage
them to check out the debian website.  The description of the social
contract and the 'about' page should ease any copyright concerns.
I'm sure your suggestions are pure in intent and reflect what you as a 
professional
librarian perceive.

If I (we, the Linux User Group) "just go ahead and donate the cds" they 
will go directly to the "Friends of the Library" book sale where it will 
bring $1 or $2. Not a good use of the computer clubs' $60.

The library does *not* have the ability to deal with them. Our library is 
well-funded; the facilities are wonderful; staff is ample; the collection 
is outstanding; persons outside our library district pay $60 a year to 
borrow books here. If the library could deal with computer software, they 
would have done it by now.

Therefore, I (we, the computer club) have to politic to get the library to 
add a Linux distribution; we have to deal with several levels of the staff 
and answer their objections.
"No one here understands Linux"; "we can't offer support, we're a library 
not a computer store."

Librarians do not appreciate snappy come-backs like: "You have books on 
Eastern Religions which nobody understands. You have Bibles but you're not 
a church."

As a measure of money and turf - our library does not accept volunteer 
computer help.

Regards, Gordon 



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Re: Donating Debian CDs to libraries

2003-07-21 Thread Aaron J. Enright
Hello.  

OK, now I'm a little confused...what exactly is the problem here?

It's kinda looking like the library is jerking you around.

I mean, on one hand, you say that they already have a CDROM collection.
Yet, on the other hand they are claiming that they do not have the
ability to deal with the donation of software.  I don't want to be
jumping to conclusions, but it sounds like they are shovelling a bunch of
bull poop your way.

That really disappoints me.  Most of the librarians I know are, if not
users of free/open source software, at least sympathetic to/fans of such
software.  After all, we are talking about a profession that thrives on
the free flow of information.

So it looks like the problem is not adding the CDROM set to their
collection and the related cataloging issues, but good old fashioned FUD?
Am I off base here?

As far as cataloging the CDROMS is concerned, if this library is a member of 
OCLC, then they should be able to copy the catalog record for Debian Potato 
(which is in OCLC WorldCat...twice) and modify it for Woody.  If they
aren't members of OCLC and were able to catalog the other CDROMs in their
collection then they certainly can catalog the Debian CDROM set.  If
they claim otherwise then they are presenting you with a falsehood.
You library could be handling its cataloging in any number of ways (it
could be done in house, as part of a consortium, or outsourced, or some
other way not coming to mind right now), so I'm a bit reluctant to pass 
judgement on them on this front.  Nonetheless, I find it a bit silly that 
they are having you provide the bibliographic information for the CDROMs.  
They, after all, are professionals and should be able to do this.

Do you think that printing up the Debian install guide, new user guide,
etc., and then running down to kinko's and having them bound and
donating them along with the CDROM set would help with their 'we can't
support such software' line of reasoning?  I think it would be a good
thing to to.  After all, I would have been utterly lost without such
documents when I was a new Debian user (heck, there are plenty of days
still when I have to RTFM to get by), and I think the CDROMs (without
documentation) at the library would cause more problems than necessary 
to Joe and Jane Average Library User who are curious about this Linux 
thing they saw in USA Today.

Regardless, I'm sure the library doesn't provide end user support for the other
CDROMs in their collection...so that argument just doesn't wash.

I really like this idea, and think I may venture down to my hometown
library and do this myself.  That is, once I get a job and can afford to
buy an official cd set and have the manuals bound. ;-)  

I hope this all works out for you folks.

cheers
-aaron


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Install sarge from cd

2003-07-21 Thread Uwe Pross
Hi there,

I had a try installing sarge using the cd images from 
 ftp://ftp.uni-bremen.de/pub/mirrors/debian_cdimages/debian-unofficial/sarge
without success :-\

First I could not get the installer to work. It reports 
  Failed to retrieve installer module
  Retrieving the module libc-udeb failed for unknown reasons.
  Aborting
  [Press enter to continue] 

This problem has been described a couple of times. The suggested
solution was to install a basic woody and to a dist-upgrade. So
did I.

The dist-upgrade failed since the file Packages.gz seems to
point to wrong files like /data/.2/debian/pool/... which should
actually point to pool/... Since apt expects this path relative
to /cdrom the path /cdrom/data/.2/debian/pool/... is needed.
This path cannot be created on a existing cdrom ;-/

So my workarround was to copy the cdrom to the hard disk,
create a link [copied cdrom]/data/.2/debian/pool and do a
dist-upgrade from there. This one seemed to work.

Unfortunately there are 9 cdroms left which do not fit on my
harddisk.

Is there anyone who expierenced the same problems? Maybe there
are simpler workarounds. 

I still cannot get X to run. I installed xf86* packages from the
sarge cd1. I used xf86config to get an XF86Config file.
The problem is that there is not link (or prog)
/usr/X11R6/bin/X. 
Is there program which can create this link to the X-server or I
am requested to do it by hand? Maybe I have forgotten to install
a package. The choosen driver (mga-something) seems to be in
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/driv

BTW: My machine is on a telephone line so I cannot use a
 net-installation. I would like to use sarge and not woody
 since I would like to use the newer packages like gcc-3.3. 

F'up might be set to linux.debian.maint.boot

Thanks for any hints.

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how do i burn a raw file to cd

2003-07-21 Thread johari
i hope you can send me this answer
regards
johari
malaysia (ipoh Perak)





How are you doing ?

2003-07-21 Thread mpp31757
Title: ai fammi sognare







ai fammi sognare, ancora un po'
leggermente ho tanta troppa voglia, non posso aspettare  Succhiami così
leggermente ancora ... ancora di più ... di più 
Mi sento umida
Toccami!
Mmmhh...dai fammi sognare, ancora un po' leggermente ho tanta troppa voglia, non
posso aspettare Succhiami così leggermente ancora ... ancora di più ... di
più 
 
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Re: Donating Debian CDs to libraries

2003-07-21 Thread Gordon Huff
At 06:51 PM 7/19/2003 -0500, Aaron J. Enright wrote:
Howdy.
On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 09:02:48AM -0700, Gordon Huff wrote:
> I've just had a discussion like this with my local librarian.


I can tell you that anything physically written on the
disk (in part why I advocate donating an official set), as well as any
README, COPYRIGHT, and similar files found among the data on the cd would
be the most likely sources for the bibliographic information for cataloguing
the cd set.  Whatever information the cataloger needs but cannot find
in those files can easily be found at the debian website.
My local library already has a CDROM collection - if this is the answer I 
think my librarian was asking another question. I've suggested the following :

Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 rev 1 "Woody".
Official i386 Binary-1
005.4469 Debian 16Dec2002
and I'll add the

Mind you, I am talking about very basic elements of bibliographic
information here.  Things like title (Debian GNU/Linux 3.0r1), statement
of responsibility (Debian Project), copyright (2003 Software in the
Public Interest), and so on.  This is all stuff generally found on the
title page verso (the 'copyright page') of a book, the software
equivalent of which are the README file, COPYRIGHT file, EULA, splash
screens, etc.  The description of medium and system requirements would
really be the only elements specific to computer files I can think of.
as well.

Try searching google with "anglo american cataloging rules":
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=anglo+american+cataloging+rules&btnG=Google+Search
That yields many a descriptive hit.
I've tried that. I especially like :
http://sparta.rice.edu/~keckker/Manual/CD-ROM.html
=snip=
> Is there a librarian on this list who has cataloged a CD?
Yes, I have.  Do you have any questions about the process?  It's always
fun to talk shop.
I'm sure my local librarian will appreciate this offer.
I say just go adhead and donate the cds.  The library should have the
ability to deal with them.  Seems a bit to me that you are doing their
work by worrying about how to get the cd set into their catalog.  If
they are worried about things like copyright infringement, encourage
them to check out the debian website.  The description of the social
contract and the 'about' page should ease any copyright concerns.
I'm sure your suggestions are pure in intent and reflect what you as a 
professional
librarian perceive.

If I (we, the Linux User Group) "just go ahead and donate the cds" they 
will go directly to the "Friends of the Library" book sale where it will 
bring $1 or $2. Not a good use of the computer clubs' $60.

The library does *not* have the ability to deal with them. Our library is 
well-funded; the facilities are wonderful; staff is ample; the collection 
is outstanding; persons outside our library district pay $60 a year to 
borrow books here. If the library could deal with computer software, they 
would have done it by now.

Therefore, I (we, the computer club) have to politic to get the library to 
add a Linux distribution; we have to deal with several levels of the staff 
and answer their objections.
"No one here understands Linux"; "we can't offer support, we're a library 
not a computer store."

Librarians do not appreciate snappy come-backs like: "You have books on 
Eastern Religions which nobody understands. You have Bibles but you're not 
a church."

As a measure of money and turf - our library does not accept volunteer 
computer help.

Regards, Gordon 




Re: Donating Debian CDs to libraries

2003-07-21 Thread Aaron J. Enright
Hello.  

OK, now I'm a little confused...what exactly is the problem here?

It's kinda looking like the library is jerking you around.

I mean, on one hand, you say that they already have a CDROM collection.
Yet, on the other hand they are claiming that they do not have the
ability to deal with the donation of software.  I don't want to be
jumping to conclusions, but it sounds like they are shovelling a bunch of
bull poop your way.

That really disappoints me.  Most of the librarians I know are, if not
users of free/open source software, at least sympathetic to/fans of such
software.  After all, we are talking about a profession that thrives on
the free flow of information.

So it looks like the problem is not adding the CDROM set to their
collection and the related cataloging issues, but good old fashioned FUD?
Am I off base here?

As far as cataloging the CDROMS is concerned, if this library is a member of 
OCLC, then they should be able to copy the catalog record for Debian Potato 
(which is in OCLC WorldCat...twice) and modify it for Woody.  If they
aren't members of OCLC and were able to catalog the other CDROMs in their
collection then they certainly can catalog the Debian CDROM set.  If
they claim otherwise then they are presenting you with a falsehood.
You library could be handling its cataloging in any number of ways (it
could be done in house, as part of a consortium, or outsourced, or some
other way not coming to mind right now), so I'm a bit reluctant to pass 
judgement on them on this front.  Nonetheless, I find it a bit silly that 
they are having you provide the bibliographic information for the CDROMs.  
They, after all, are professionals and should be able to do this.

Do you think that printing up the Debian install guide, new user guide,
etc., and then running down to kinko's and having them bound and
donating them along with the CDROM set would help with their 'we can't
support such software' line of reasoning?  I think it would be a good
thing to to.  After all, I would have been utterly lost without such
documents when I was a new Debian user (heck, there are plenty of days
still when I have to RTFM to get by), and I think the CDROMs (without
documentation) at the library would cause more problems than necessary 
to Joe and Jane Average Library User who are curious about this Linux 
thing they saw in USA Today.

Regardless, I'm sure the library doesn't provide end user support for the other
CDROMs in their collection...so that argument just doesn't wash.

I really like this idea, and think I may venture down to my hometown
library and do this myself.  That is, once I get a job and can afford to
buy an official cd set and have the manuals bound. ;-)  

I hope this all works out for you folks.

cheers
-aaron