Re[2]: Problem with jigdo-lite
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Richard, Monday, May 5, 2003, 8:14:34 PM, you wrote: RA> You are downloading the images for stable (woody), not the sarge ones, RA> right? That's right ;-) I've build the sarge ones too, but there was no problem. RA> Are you getting an error message "Aargh, 13 files could not be RA> downloaded", or did you just notice some 404 error messages? Neither - in midst of the progress there is a message like 9987 of 1 files found required by the template. After that I am asked for a mirror to get the files from. RA> At the moment the CDs are made, they represent a "snapshot" of the RA> archive. From that moment on, the CDs stay the same, but the RA> archive changes slightly; some files are removed or replaced with Ok that's clear. RA> newer versions. To counteract this, there is a fallback server on RA> us.cdimage.debian.org which still contains the old files. It seems RA> to work fine for other people, not sure why there's a problem for RA> you. For me us.cdimage.debian.org works too ;-) jigdo get the missing files and completes the image. But I was wondering why I can't build a cd-image directly from my local mirror here, but if there are some (13?) packages that are not present in Debians main-archive that is the solution. But now I am starting to ask me why these packages are not inside the normal archive, whence they are needed for a current stable release? Some packages are also in different versions in the archive, so why not these (as I can see this packages contain docs). Jan PS: Thank you for jigdo ;-) It is a great tool! And geetings from the "north" as I am a CS student at TU Clausthal... -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQE+t1bQFkp/xtPKawsRApj0AJ9FN1I28JEN+LJ7G2LEkqnFRrTS8gCcDlij W8wK0mki299Bx6o4YEk6fxc= =yKEp -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: Problem with jigdo-lite
On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 08:31:44AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > RA> Are you getting an error message "Aargh, 13 files could not be > RA> downloaded", or did you just notice some 404 error messages? > > Neither - in midst of the progress there is a message like 9987 of 1 > files found required by the template. After that I am asked for a mirror > to get the files from. Well, that's just the way jigdo works, no problem. :) > But I was wondering why I can't build a cd-image directly from my local > mirror here, but if there are some (13?) packages that are not present in > Debians main-archive that is the solution. But now I am starting to ask > me why these packages are not inside the normal archive, whence they are > needed for a current stable release? Some packages are also in different > versions in the archive, so why not these (as I can see this packages > contain docs). You're right, everything would feel much cleaner if only a normal Debian mirror were needed. Actually, one day I'd like there to be a "jigdo fallback directory" on every Debian FTP server (and ideally also a directory containing the .jigdo and .template files), so each mirror would be self-contained WRT CD downloading. BTW, if you look closely, the changed files do *not* include any packages, just "less important" stuff like documentation, READMEs etc. Greetings from Munich, Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | CS student at the Technische | GnuPG key: | \/¯| http://atterer.net | Universität München, Germany | 0x888354F7 ¯ '` ¯
Re[2]: Problem with jigdo-lite
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Richard, Tuesday, May 6, 2003, 2:41:34 PM, you wrote: RA> Well, that's just the way jigdo works, no problem. :) Yes - a great tool ;-) I remember the old days where to download a full image, breaking connections nearly the end and then to see that this mirror wasn't able to continue download broken files (and in times of ISDN this was really annoying). RA> You're right, everything would feel much cleaner if only a normal Debian RA> mirror were needed. Actually, one day I'd like there to be a "jigdo RA> fallback directory" on every Debian FTP server (and ideally also a RA> directory containing the .jigdo and .template files), so each mirror would RA> be self-contained WRT CD downloading. This would be great - so why there isn't? Actually I need to mirror debian, debian-non-US and debian-cd. Okay, debian-non-US is needed to be seperated. And that debian-cd holds .jigdo and .template I can understand, they are closely to CDs. But a simple directory in one of the archives holding this little stuff extra needed by jigdo (and for buliding an image) would be great. RA> BTW, if you look closely, the changed files do *not* include any packages, RA> just "less important" stuff like documentation, READMEs etc. Right ;-) Do you know if it is planned to include this little stuff into the archive? If I think about it - these files are needed by the current stable images, I can install them, although they are not packages and not really important. By the way, can jigdo keep this downloaded files? I've looked and read manpages but without success.. Jan -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (MingW32) iD8DBQE+t9R5Fkp/xtPKawsRAikFAJ0XRZ43/WE1uguyGGwexc8zTj2fdQCgi8tL 9gw07rwcHpIQizi/2zGtjSA= =8xrI -END PGP SIGNATURE-
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Re: Problem with jigdo-lite
On Tue, May 06, 2003 at 05:27:53PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > RA> Actually, one day I'd like there to be a "jigdo > RA> fallback directory" on every Debian FTP server (and ideally also a > RA> directory containing the .jigdo and .template files), so each mirror would > RA> be self-contained WRT CD downloading. > > This would be great - so why there isn't? Um, various not very convincing reasons which all boil down to the fact that some further work on my part is needed before anything will happen in that area. ;-) ATM, it's a higher priority for me to get the jigdo GUI app into a usable state... > Right ;-) Do you know if it is planned to include this little stuff into > the archive? Most of it is also available inside some package or other, the most notable exception probably being the GPG keyring. > By the way, can jigdo keep this downloaded files? I've looked and read > manpages but without success.. You mean, can it save the files from the fallback server somewhere? Not really, you'd probably have to fish them out of your HTTP proxy's cache if you really needed them. But if you use jigdo's update feature, they will be found, so e.g. you won't need to download them again when you update your 3.0r1 images to 3.0r2. Richard -- __ _ |_) /| Richard Atterer | CS student at the Technische | GnuPG key: | \/¯| http://atterer.net | Universität München, Germany | 0x888354F7 ¯ '` ¯
