OBSOLETE and DEAD LINKS: http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/

2003-04-21 Thread Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim
Hello,

I guess that these following links in http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/
are dead (slow?) or obselete:

DEAD

# Australia: mirror.aarnet.edu.au:
# Brazil: linorg.usp.br:
# Indonesia: gajah.vlsm.org:


OBSOLETE

# Brazil: ftp.matrix.net.br
# Indonesia: kebo.vlsm.org:


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Bye bye Garry

2003-04-21 Thread Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim
Garry Heaton wrote:

> I'm new to Debian, having used Mandrake happily for years.

Wish you all the best with Mandrake! If ain't broken, then why
switch to Debian?

Before you considering Debian, please read:
* Reasons to Choose Debian http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian 
* Debian FAQ http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/
* (follow) the debian-user list http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/

I notice that there is no Debian CDROM mirror in UK, but there 
are many in Germany. See also http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/

Last, you might want to try Knoppix. Knoppix is more Mandrake 
than Mandrake[sm]. See also http://www.knoppix.net/get.php

byebye,

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Re: OBSOLETE and DEAD LINKS: http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/

2003-04-21 Thread Glenn McGrath
On 21 Apr 2003 15:46:21 +0700
"Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> DEAD
> 
> # Australia: mirror.aarnet.edu.au:

This isnt dead, possibly only accessable from within Australia.


Glenn




Re: OBSOLETE and DEAD LINKS: http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/

2003-04-21 Thread Richard Atterer
The situation WRT .iso mirrors is quite messed up...

Some people use jigdo-mirror and others use rsync (=> different leafnames
for the images), some people outside the US make a link from the 1_NONUS to
the 1 CD. Some servers are horribly outdated (e.g. still carry potato), 
others don't carry any images anymore.

Myself, I've given up trying to fix this for various reasons - if anybody
were to give it a try, that would be splendid! Roughly, steps involved are
(all IMHO):

 - Fix debian-cd to make image names consistent for jigdo and non-jigdo 
   images (difficult, there are reasons for the current state of things...)

 - Set up a master CD server on a debian.org machine (difficult because 
   not everyone agrees that one is needed at all, and because the people on 
   debian-admin are overworked and have to be persuaded too, etc...), find 
   a way of granting mirror admins access to the master server in a way 
   which doesn't let one person do all the work.
   
 - Optional, but very cool: A system which tracks which CD mirrors are up 
   to date. Checking the servers is fairly easy (IIRC Joey Hess even wrote 
   a script a while ago), integrating the info into the web pages less so.
 
 - Come up with one standard way of mirroring. Unfortunately, jigdo-mirror
   was not accepted by most admins, probably because it is "non-standard" 
   and because being a shell script, it might appear to be a hack.
 
 - Mail admins to reconfigure their mirror scripts to use the new server. 
   Not difficult, just a lot of work.
 
Cheers,

  Richard

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Re: www.debian.org/CD/netinst/

2003-04-21 Thread Xavier
>On Wed, Mar 05, 2003 at 09:21:03AM +0100, Martin Sjögren wrote:
>> The www.d.o/CD/netinst page does not make clear that the testing netinst
>> CDs are meant for testing debian-installer. There have been numerous
>> people mailing d-boot about not being able to use it to install sarge.
>> 
>> This *must* be made clear!
>
>Of course the real fix is for you to finish the installer ;-), but I take 
>your point. I've just added the following to the page, hope that's OK:
>
>The images are only intended for testing the new installer for
>sarge. The installer is still under development, so the installation
>may fail.
>

I was browsing the list, looking for an explanation: reading your short lines 
on the web page I was not sure if I could use the images to install or not . 
I suggest you add a date ("on april 20th the installer can't be used to install 
testing...") and something like: "_don't_ download these images to install 
testing, use the floppyinst instead."

Regards  Xavier

Cordialement
Xavier Brochard
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Re: OBSOLETE and DEAD LINKS: http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/

2003-04-21 Thread jason andrade
On Mon, 21 Apr 2003, Glenn McGrath wrote:

> On 21 Apr 2003 15:46:21 +0700
> "Rahmat M. Samik-Ibrahim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > DEAD
> > 
> > # Australia: mirror.aarnet.edu.au:
>
> This isnt dead, possibly only accessable from within Australia.

i'll confirm this is the case.  it contains an up to date 3.0r1 mirror
of ISO images.  it is only accessible from within AU and NZ due to the
cost of providing this resource outside this region.

regards,

-jason