Re: state of the cdrom mirrors report

2002-12-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 06:55:37PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> And I've modified mirror_list.pl to use the new fields to generate a list
> that has only known-good mirrors on it. I took the approach of assuming
> that a site's http mirror is good if its ftp mirror checks out ok.

That's too optimistic, sadly. On a number of occasions I've seen people
suddenly "forget" to configure their Apaches after an upgrade or something.
It's usually that they only care about FTP for whatever reason and don't
bother to check up on HTTP.

> I think we should set up a cron to run the check_cd_mirrors.pl every day
> (or every 3 days, but it's not very expensive to run, though it does
> take about an hour to complete) on gluck, and commit its changes to the
> Mirrors.masterlist.status (which can be done on gluck best since the cvs
> repository is there).

Or it could simply run on www-master where the web pages get built, so we
skip all the CVS overhead.

> Index: english/CD/http-ftp/index.wml
> ===
> +

This is actually done with WML comments - # - or more correctly simply by
removing that chunk. :)

> Index: english/distrib/netinst.wml
> ===
> -  Minimal CD:
> -  Instead of getting a full 650MB CD image, you just download a CD image
> -  file which contains the bare essentials necessary to install the rest.
> +  CD:
> +  You download a CD image file. Minimal CD images are available, as is
> +  a fast and efficient means to download a full CD from a mirror near you.

This part I don't get. Instead of shortening the path between entering
www.d.o and getting to the netinst CDs, you've added another page to pass
through before the viewer reaches it.

If your intention was to actually make it obvious that there are other
options as far as installing after using the network to get stuff, then
/distrib/netinst is not the right page, as it is meant to describe
installing and using the network at the same time.

Instead, such a thing can be added as a third option in /distrib/, with a
bit of rephrasing below.

I assembled the current /distrib/ web page, and while I don't remember
exactly why I omitted this, it's most likely because I realized the CD web
pages weren't quite up to the task. Damn that subconscious awareness... :)

I'll start thinking of a patch for that page now.

> Index: english/mirror/mirror_list.pl
> ===
> -open SRC, "<$mirror_source" ||
> +open(SRC, "<$mirror_source") ||

Easy on the formatting... :)

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Re: state of the cdrom mirrors report

2002-12-01 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Nov 30, 2002 at 04:11:39PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
> > (That's a LUG site which holds images for a bunch of distros. I didn't feel
> > like creating a directory structure for something like that because it's
> > only those few i386 binaries that are in there (no space or interest for
> > other stuff) and because it would make Debian stand out, as other images are
> > simply placed directly in the foo/ directory.)
> 
> mkdir -p 3.0_r0/i386
> mv * 3.0_r0/i386

I won't do that, for precisely the same reasons you've started this whole
thread: faster/easier availability to users. 

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Re: Too few up-to-date CD image mirrors

2002-12-01 Thread Mattias Wadenstein
On Sat, 30 Nov 2002, Mattias Wadenstein wrote:

> On Fri, 29 Nov 2002, Joey Hess wrote:
>
> > Mattias Wadenstein wrote:
> > > I also noticed that I have this structure:
> > > debian-cd/3.0_r0/images/i386
> > >
> > > Should I remove the "images" dir? I am fairly certain that it ended up
> > > there during the discussions on jigdo-mirror and a standard structure for
> > > the release, but since there is no official master site, I can't be sure.
> > >
> > > Other mirrors seems to not have the "images" dir.
> >
> > I only find one or two with the images directory. IMHO it should be
> > removed for consistency. My script shall not default to looking for it.
>
> Ok. I'll wait a day or two to see if someone shouts that it should be left
> as it is, then I'll move it.

And now our mirror does not have the "images" directory in the path to the
isos. For those that mirror from us, it could be a hint to move it. Or
just download everything during the next cron job. :)

/Mattias Wadenstein


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Please clean up the list of netinst images

2002-12-01 Thread Eduard Bloch
Hello,

could you please check the http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ page? The
_first_ netinst link is dead, and the last one is points to something
for the obsolete Potato 2.2r4 (http://markybobdeb.sourceforge.net/elf/).

Gruss/Regards,
Eduard.
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Re: state of the cdrom mirrors report

2002-12-01 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Dec 01, 2002 at 08:29:22AM -0600, Josip Rodin wrote:
> > mkdir -p 3.0_r0/i386
> > mv * 3.0_r0/i386
> I won't do that, for precisely the same reasons you've started this whole
> thread: faster/easier availability to users. 

Oh for heaven's sake, don't be difficult for the sake of it.

mkdir 3.0_r0; ln -s .. 3.0_r0/i386 # or something.

Getting a standardised mirror structure is a much bigger win than saving
a few users a few keystrokes.

Cheers,
aj

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Re: Too few up-to-date CD image mirrors

2002-12-01 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Nov 29, 2002 at 09:23:07PM +0100, Richard Atterer wrote:
> So let's do it their way: I propose that we offer rsync (and maybe
> HTTP?) access to the images again starting with 3.0r1. raff has enough
> disc space, so the size should not be a problem.

Yay.

Also, it would be very nice to have the netinst image become official
sooner rather than later. Pointing to images we don't control is bad,
recommending them above what we do provide smacks of incompetence.

Cheers,
aj

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Request to be listed

2002-12-01 Thread Will Sarka
Greetings folks,

Not sure if my last e-mail got lost in the shuffle over Thanksgiving
weekend or not. :)  Could you please add cudlug.cudenver.edu to the FTP
and HTTP mirrors?

URLs are:

ftp://cudlug.cudenver.edu/debian-cd/
http://cudlug.cudenver.edu/debian-cd/

Cheers,
Will


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